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« on: April 11, 2014, 01:18:20 AM »

" The Escalade is important for Cadillac. The extended wheelbase version of the SUV brings in the brand's youngest, wealthiest, and best educated buyers (on average 51 years old, with a $320,000 income). "

This ride has ALL the bells and whistles I must say. Have to watch the video with the rear buttons that make all the rear seats go down.

See all the features this ride has. GM has gone bezerk with this vehicle so obviously trying to outdo everyone else - why ? I dunno - because they can ?

A modern day 57/58 Eldorado Brougham SUV. Having said all that I prefer the more aggressive styling of the previous model. This looks like a Range Rover or an International Travelall IMO with the straight slab sides.

It's fast indeed. Wealthy people will just junk it - trade it in after 2-4 years anyway before nothing works anymore.

" When it is working hard, the engine can send the Escalade from 0 to 60 mph in under six seconds — impressive for a 6,000-pound car."

http://www.businessinsider.com/2015-cadillac-escalade-review-2014-4?op=1

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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2014, 08:08:15 AM »

 A pie in the sky. But I still can't grasp why they call it a car.

 Mike

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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2015, 09:32:28 AM »

Gregg's Escalade or as they call it the Esca - lade '.

2010 Platinum edition model, bought it from a dealer in Colorado , it's a GM certified pre owned vehicle and has the full warranty.  First year for the LED headlamps. He waxes it 3-4 times a year. Says it's the best riding " car " he's ever owned.

Running boards project out when you open the door, remote start, navigation screen, etc.

Had five or so Chevy Suburbans through the years, still has his 2003 he bought new with 502 engine , 275K and still useable, burns a little oil that's all . So the Escalade is a luxury upgrade. For some people this is the only vehicle to own.

We are GM guys and he said there's a reason for that. A superior product , end of story.

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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2015, 09:59:32 AM »

Aren't they just a "dressed to the nines" Chevy Suburban, 100x upscaled of course ?  They are a big buck machine and I often wonder what I would be driving
if I had that kind of money. I't nice to dream.

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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2015, 10:12:44 AM »


 Yes. Based on the Tahoe/Suburban. But very ambitiously upgraded.

 Mike
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2015, 10:39:12 AM »

Walnut burl dashboard on the Platinum edition. Hand stitched leather everywhere, totally deluxe. ESV model makes the Esacalade with the short wheelbase look out of scale IMO.

His 2003 Suburban is loaded and deluxe but they didn't have the navigation screen back then. Uses a phone app GPS navigation in his other rides, gave me his Garmin GPS he hasn't used for years. Just another toy to play with, I'm old school - called a map and I type a direction sheet.

He sneers at the base model, running boards don't move, dashboard has brushed SS, wheels are cheaper.

GMC Denali isn't much cheaper but as Mike would say with re badging every division can have the similar product. Redundant but what else is new ?

Bonus pictures of his 66 Vette he owned since the 80's. Sold it to his BIL and he went for his lungs - body off rebuild with new interior and paint, rebuilt drivetrain - breathtaking. Originally Sunfire Yellow, he went with factory correct Mossport Green and he added AC, knock off wheels and PS. PS needs to be removed, he hates it.  I had manual steering on my 66 Vette, they get loose at high speed.

His mechanic recommended the newer AC compressor instead of the A6, it looks stupid. Keeps it in a controlled environment garage inside a bubble ! Why not, it's a " Bloomington Gold " car sans the incorrect details he chose.

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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2015, 10:54:26 AM »


 Nice. What 327 is under the hood? I know you had the L-79 which was a beast.

 Mike
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1990 Brougham d'Elegance 6DW69 - Vera
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1996 Chevrolet Caprice Classic 1BL52
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2015, 11:29:44 AM »

Very mundane 66 Vette, base 300 hp engine with a 4sp tranny. Not sure if it had any other options but now I recall he built the engine to the L79 spec's. Just a camshaft and aluminum intake AFAIK.

I lost my breath looking at that car, a perfect resto in every way. He did it right and preserved a piece of history.

Larry Shinoda under Bill Mitchell's tutelage and Zora's engineering prowess created an all time classic.

He's an aircraft mechanic, owns a shop at a small airport. All told $ 100K large into this resto, " go big or go home ". You don't cut corners restoring a classic car like that. Greg said he got ripped off but in these times not really.

It sat in Greg's FIL's garage for a few decades, he sold his business and it had to go. Gave his BIL a deal on the purchase price but the body off complete resto will cost the same no matter what you start with. FIL had an all original 46 Cadillac Series 62 ? four door, his wife used to get driven to school in that car, I saw it once at the garage, in decent shape.  It sold for $ 3k to somebody.

Some more pictures, no expense was spared to make this car really restored correctly or at least as nice as could be.

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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2015, 01:04:38 PM »

327 engine pictures showing he rebuilt the stock 300 hp to L 79 spec's.

Base engine didn't have the finned aluminum valve covers, and whatever else - Holley carb with open air breather, Mike might know.

I could imagine what he spent on re plating the parts, chrome bumpers, etc.  As if brand new but they always get over restored, how can you help that ? Better than factory but so be it.  He's not a trophy whore, built the car the way he wanted it to be. Gets silly after awhile, restore a car might as well make a few improvements in the build quality.

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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2015, 01:38:34 PM »


 To a Corvette guy it would look wrong. the engine anyway. The Sanden compressor would be a no no. Should have a Frigidaire A6. I don't think A/C was available on the L-79's either. They revved so high they would smoke the compressor or just throw off the belt. Plus the L-79 was more than just a cam, intake and carb.

 Funny to spend all that cash on a resto, then fudge those details. And change the colour. Certainly not worthy of Bloomington Gold. Too many points lost. But you build/restore for your own satisfaction. Not to pleas others. But it is a beauty for sure.

 Mike
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1970 Fleetwood Brougham 68169 - Lucille
1987 Brougham 6DW69 - Victoria
1990 Brougham d'Elegance 6DW69 - Vera
1991 Seville STS 6KY69 - Clara
1994 Fleetwood Brougham 6DW69 - Joan
1996 Chevrolet Caprice Classic 1BL52
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2015, 01:49:09 PM »

My 66 Vette was factory stock with L79 and AC. You are talking about the solid lifter engine which wasn't available with AC, pretty rare engine and I don't know what the nomenclature was for that engine. Solid lifter engine you would blow the belts right off the AC pulley.

IIRC the 1970 LT 1 engine had solid lifters and AC was no go from the factory. In 1972 they let you have AC with the LT 1.

I was quite the well versed Vette head at one time, have the literature here but no point in digging that info up but I can if need be.

Too funny one time this guy told me he was going to buy a 67 FI Vette, I told him the last year for FI was 65 but his Vette buddy was an expert and I didn't know what I was talking about ........ lol

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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2015, 04:02:14 PM »

1965 Vette engine options:

Base engine 327 250 hp

L 75 300 hp

L 79 350 hp

L 76 365 hp ( that was the solid lifter engine )

L 84 375 hp FI. ( don't know what the lifters were in that engine )

L 78 425 hp 396 CI.


1966

Base engine 300 hp 327

L 79 350 hp

L 36 427 390 hp

L 72 427 425 hp

The body shop that installed the new nose on my 66 after I hit a deer was a collector,  had 10 - 15 Vettes stashed away in trailers.

Had a 66 Coupe in his shop ( his car ) and he opened the hood and showed me the factory L72 engine with the  450 hp decal on the air cleaner so the legend is true. They declared 425 hp for the insurance companies after the fact and the 450 hp decal was no more. Most all of these engines were under rated.

They listed the 67-69 L88 as less power then the tri power big block and the option was $ 3K but it was all a game to qualify building the car just for racing. A few civilians ordered one anyway.

My mechanic Ray that worked on my van has a 67 with L79. Said Greg's BIL restored the wrong year, should have been a 67 but I disagree.

I prefer the 66 without the console parking brake. 66 big block I like the hood, 67 introduced the " tunnel ram " ? hood for the big block but same car for all practical purposes.  A 63 split window or a 65 with FI I would consider very desirable.  By the same token a 53 is worth way more than the same 54 Vette, you get my drift.

Same with vintage Cadillac's, the newer year usually has some upgrades but to each their own.

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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2015, 06:29:44 PM »


 The FI engine had solid lifters. It was a balls to the wall performance engine.

 Yes, initially the L-72 was rated at 450 HP. many say it was capable of much more. I wondered about that for a long time, then I read that it was more of a gentleman`s agreement to not rate any engine more than 425 HP. That`s why you see the Hemi and the Ford 427 rateed at 425 HP. But GM sort of went a bit over on a couple of occasions with the L-39 (3-carb 427) and the L-88. But the L-88 could generate close to 520 HP. The ZL-1 was also rated at 430 HP but it could pout out closer to 550 HP. These were no excuses race engines.

 But in 1970 the LS-6 454 was rated at 450 HP. It was essentially a 454 version of the L-72. Power ratings were in the area of 500+ HP.

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1970 Fleetwood Brougham 68169 - Lucille
1987 Brougham 6DW69 - Victoria
1990 Brougham d'Elegance 6DW69 - Vera
1991 Seville STS 6KY69 - Clara
1994 Fleetwood Brougham 6DW69 - Joan
1996 Chevrolet Caprice Classic 1BL52
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