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« on: February 17, 2014, 02:29:35 PM »


 I received the flyer for the FCCI the other day, so it certainly is a go!

 So, I booked our room. Maureen and I will be staying at the London Hotel and Suites (formerly Radisson) for 3 nights. Of all the places we have stayed, this one was the best for us. Going with something we know, no disappointments.

 I will call Steve and check in and see if our spot is still available for this year. Looks like we're going to get over run with Mustangs again.

 Mike
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2014, 02:31:35 PM »

I don't mind the Mustangs. I am dressing my car in it's Sunday best. The stangs can do what they want but they are still just stangs. Popular because they were cheaply priced. I wish I received a flyer!
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2014, 02:33:27 PM »



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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2014, 02:37:42 PM »


 Bad link...

 Anyway, a few years ago they had some Mustang celebration. they came on hordes and took over everything, then by 1 PM most of them had packed up and went home. A lot of folk were somewhat annoyed.

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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2014, 06:07:48 PM »

It will be like that at those shows. Mustangs are a dime a dozen as are Corvettes and Cameros. Put on a do
celebrating them and they come out of the woodwork. They are so common they aren't really a specialty car
any more.

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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2014, 07:40:16 PM »


 And they draw the crowds of the unwashed. But if that's what you want to do, then that's the way to do it. I just hope these guys don't command the show and then leave early leaving big gaping holes in the field.

 I can appreciate Mustangs, Camaros, Corvettes and such for what they are. There are some pretty desirable and rare models in the ranks too. But with them bring a ratio of maybe 50:1 of the garden variety types that we get so tired of looking at. And among them are the clones and wannabes.

 However, Mustangs have always been derived from bottom feeder econo car mechanicals and structures. they were pounded out like cultured bacteria. Elements that would make any other car a so-so on the landscape. It's the way they were marketed, and the semi sexy clothes they were dressed in that make them what they are.

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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2014, 06:59:04 AM »

Cheaply made, cheaply sold, marketed well, sometimes fast but usually not. Just enough fast models stuck here and there to keep people dreaming that maybe they are all fast. None of them good handling cars unless extensively modified making them a race car with a mustang shell.

That said, I owned one, a brand new 1995 model and I liked the car for what it was. Not something I would keep after it's best before date.

I just added up the sales figures from initial release until 2013.... 4,381,446 (This is missing some model years). I then added up the Cadillac sales figures and it's actually much higher (Excluding some missing years and all models). Not that this means anything I suppose. I was just curious.

Oh yeah, the total Cadillacs sold during the same time frame... 8,828,692

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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2014, 08:04:28 AM »


 Yeah, within the ranks of the high profile models, the ones featured in all the buff books, in TV shows and movies, are those base models with no aspirations for anything other than econo cars in a slightly fancier suit. All those 6 cylinder and base V-8 models.

 The suspensions on these were at best described as flimsy and uninspired. And yes, it takes a major reworking of the suspension and the bodyshell to make anything from them. That was the theme right from the first right through the Fox body era cars. The current Mustang relies on a decontented version of the old Lincoln LS platform.

 One thing that got me about the early versions and how cheap they were was that the gas tank bolts into the trunk floor and actually forms the trunk floor. Compromised and potentially dangerous.

 Mike
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2014, 08:48:13 AM »


 Oh, and on those numbers. The Mustang raked up over 770,000 sales for the '65 model year alone, then topped one million once the '66 model year was finished. Commendable in anyone's books.

 But then the arena got crowded for 1967 with the Camaro/Firebird hitting the floor, the Javelin and even competition from in house, the Cougar. Not to forget Plymouth's renewed attempt to dig in with the restyled Barracuda. Sales dipped, and through the 70's the segment was a shadow of itself.

 Cadillac saw some of their best years ever during this time. the 300,000 mark was beat in 1973. While Mustang sales peaked, went into the skids, recovered and finally settled in, Cadillac kept selling in good numbers.

 But to go to any car show, you'd never know it. There are always several examples of any given generation of Mustang, but often you don't see any Cadillacs at all. Even in shows where there are several hundred cars, you may see only a few Cadillacs, but at least a dozen or more Mustangs.

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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2014, 03:02:11 PM »

Lee Iaccoca didn't make very many cars under his leadership that I consider exciting.

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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2014, 05:23:25 PM »

He was responsible for the Falcon too. Him and Robert McNamara headed that project. He also did the Continental Mk III. But Iacocca insisted on the glitz and his wishes were met at the opposition of the Lincoln division whick feilded theri own concept. He was the king of kiche for sure.

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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2014, 09:57:24 AM »

 I contacted Steve Plunkett about our spot at the show. All is good. I just have to let him know as the date arrives how many will be there.

 Mike
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2014, 11:08:26 AM »

This year with me working in Oshawa during the weeks, I don't know how likely I'll be able to get the time. If I have a spare weekend, I should really spend it getting the house ready for sale.  But who knows, maybe it'll be ready by then.
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2014, 04:30:46 PM »

I will be there. 
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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2014, 05:52:36 PM »

I will have 2 caddies and one "junior member" car (57 chev).
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