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Title: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on October 17, 2011, 08:31:22 AM
This is a popular thread on another forum I'm on, so let's give it a go here.

I didn't do anything today however I bought an 82 Fleetwood Brougham D elegance that needed some work. So far I have replaced the heater core, done the brakes, replaced the blower motor and battery and have been cleaning it up as it has a 3 year old paint job that has never been waxed.
 The interior is filthy but the upholstery is good and a shampoo should do wonders.
Next week I'll be fixing a fuel leak (I hope it's just the fuel filter as that is where the gas is coming from) and I need to put new tires on it before the snow flies as well as a good coating of oil underneath and I'm good to go.
 I'll post some pics as I progress.

So what did you do to your Cadillac today?

GJ
   


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 17, 2011, 01:40:08 PM

 Loaded it up and drove it home from the cabin this afternoon....

   
:cruisin:

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 18, 2011, 10:51:25 AM

 A couple of pics...

 (http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/guidematic/02%20Cottage/003%20October%2015%202011/SAM_2626.jpg)

 (http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/guidematic/02%20Cottage/003%20October%2015%202011/SAM_2633.jpg)

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on October 31, 2011, 08:05:26 AM
Put the 94 in storage for the winter on Friday :'(
 It will be at least 5 months until it comes out of hibernation.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 31, 2011, 10:03:23 AM

 Both yours and mine. Looking forward to April to pull them out!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EAM on November 01, 2011, 07:08:33 PM
I checked the air in all four tires and put in 28 pounds in the front and 29 in the rear. Tightened up the valve covers due to a slight leak. Made sure all fluids are at the levels where they should be and cleaned up the interior where needed. Now I have to get ready for the mice who want to have a living room in the interior and in the motor area too.  This is my silver 76 Coupe de Ville which is in real good top shape in and out with 223,000 miles. I had the motor rebuilt with very high quality parts about 65,000 miles ago. Well now it's going to go to sleep for 5 months and I'll run around with my 89 Chev Caprice and 86 Pontiac Sunbird Turbo. Everett


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 01, 2011, 10:27:40 PM

 Yep, the time they have to go away for hibernation is a sad day. Not opnly being without them, but you knopw you're on the doorstepp of all the foul, miserable weather that winter brings. But it's a necessary evil in order to save them for enjoyment many years to come.

 I really look forward to the beginning of April to retreive the Cadillac. But until then I have the '88 Eldo and the '90 Brougham to do yeoman service through the bad months.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jessie on November 05, 2011, 06:18:19 AM
I gave the fleetwood a nice wash would like to wax it and put lexol on leather today  and looking for something to put on vinyl top i know they use to have a top dressing but can't seem to find it, any ideas?  my top is perfect and dont want it to dry out. i really need a camera for pics


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 05, 2011, 10:25:40 AM

 Mequire's makes a leather and vinyl treatment that I have used. But I find that pretty much any leather treatment works good. Another possibility would be linseed oil? Has anyone ever used that to treat leather or vinyl? I've heard in the old days it was used extensively to preserve saddles and leather furniture.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on November 05, 2011, 10:30:30 AM
Simonize protectant is good for any type of vinyl.
 Just clean it good first.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jessie on November 06, 2011, 08:01:27 PM
thanks for the tip and at $3.49 a bottle its worth trying


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on November 07, 2011, 08:30:14 AM
Spray Nine is great for cleaning vinyl before putting protectant on, and it's cheap too.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Cadillac on November 07, 2011, 07:24:19 PM
Ok, i sold my DTS.  Was going to go for the CTS but got a really good deal on a 2011 Malibu LTZ with 5000 kms on it.  Black on Black.  Brought it back from the US last week.
It only has the 2.4 in it but it goes great on the highway and gets great gas mileage.
I havent given up on Cadillacs, i still have the SRX.  Low and behold, my neighbour just pick up his 2011 CTS, Black on Black.  Go figure!
Joe


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 20, 2011, 09:19:35 AM

 Looks like some troiuble with the Brougham. It seems that one of the head gaskets has gone. It started using coolant last week, and has since gone through a considerable amount. So until I can get it fixed, it will have to sit, and only be used for short and necessary trips where the Eldo won't suffice.

 It's just not something I can do in this weather outside. So either I wait until spring, and try to get by with one car, or pay a shop to do it. That's what worries me, having someone else do it and making things worse, and it costing me a fortune in the end.

 And yesterday, I took both cars to be oiled.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on December 20, 2011, 09:26:37 AM
Perhaps someone might have a shop they can let you use for a day?

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 20, 2011, 10:54:36 AM

 I'm gonna ask around work today....

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 22, 2011, 10:27:46 PM
Personally I think that putting the car away for the winter months makes it that much more enjoyable to drive during the summer. By the end of the summer the novelty has worn off a bit and it get rekindled each spring.

this summer I replaced cap, rotor, wires, plugs, radiator fluid, replaced the chrome trim around the rear right tail light (a little rust from the screw that holds it in place was bugging me), idler arm, center link, muffler, rear brakes, radio (replaced the aftermarket that was in it when I bought it with an original 80's caddy radio), dash trim piece (the old was mangled to allow the aftermarket stereo), disassembled steering column to fix short in flasher/horn circuit, and reglued a dollar sized plastic chip that broke of the rear tail fin.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on December 23, 2011, 08:18:22 AM
Personally I think that putting the car away for the winter months makes it that much more enjoyable to drive during the summer.


Not to mention they last a lot longer when they are not exposed to road salt.
 My 94 has never been winter driven nor oil sprayed and it still looks new underneath.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 23, 2011, 09:37:33 AM

 Getting the car out in the spring is almost celebratory. It is a very good feeling knowing that a full summer of motoring is now at hand after the long winter.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on January 03, 2012, 08:52:40 AM
We had a bit of a warm spell on Sunday, so I decided to add a Christmas present to my 82. The weather is nasty cold now so I'll have to wait to do more.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 03, 2012, 09:09:45 AM

 Looks perfect! You have to see that emblem at the end of the hood to get the full experience. Now when we get another mild day, maybe you can tackle those weather strips.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 03, 2012, 01:13:55 PM
The car can be in perfect shape,  but if the hood ornament's missing, it's hard to see past it (pardon the pun). It looks like a million bucks now!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on January 04, 2012, 08:20:39 AM
Well, it's got a way to go before it looks like a million bucks.
 If you saw the interior you'd know what I meant. It's filthy and it needs a lot of work yet. It is solid as a rock though.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 12, 2012, 07:42:52 PM
Nothing to the Caddy perse, but I put a carb and pcv valve on the 350 Rocket today. I also replaced the air filter and pcv valve filter on the Wildcat.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 13, 2012, 08:16:20 AM

 All steps to the positive.

 Yesterday I put more coolant in the Brougham. <doh!>

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 13, 2012, 10:00:35 AM
Before I put the Brougham away for the winter I had to put in a lot of tranny fluid. In the spring I'll need to track down the leak. I hope it's just the pan gasket.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on January 13, 2012, 01:14:22 PM
Before I put the Brougham away for the winter I had to put in a lot of tranny fluid. In the spring I'll need to track down the leak. I hope it's just the pan gasket.

Not to many place's for tranny fluid to end-up, on the ground or in the.....rad  <doh!>

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 13, 2012, 03:32:57 PM

Not to many place's for tranny fluid to end-up, on the ground or in the.....rad  <doh!>

Rene

There was a good sized dark spot on the ground under the car, although my driveway was by no means perfect before I put the caddy there.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on January 13, 2012, 03:39:41 PM
Slide a piece of carbored under there.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 13, 2012, 06:24:11 PM

 Could be just the pan gasket. That was pretty common with them.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 13, 2012, 08:09:12 PM
I'll try the cardboard.

Was there only 1 auto tranny, or was there an option in 85?

When I did the tranny pan gasket on my buick, I got the wrong one since there where 2 you could get and the place didn't ask me which one I had. Although that was the beginning of the FWD Park aves.

Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 13, 2012, 08:59:56 PM

 They all came with the THM200 4R. Easy to get parts for still.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on January 17, 2012, 08:03:58 AM
I got the new tires on my 82.
 Cooper Eldorado's. $496 clams installed/balanced and taxes in.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 17, 2012, 02:33:29 PM
Where did you go?
I could use a new set.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on January 18, 2012, 07:26:49 AM
Ontario Tire on Victoria St.
It's about half a block before the restaurant supply store (S.T.O.P.)

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 26, 2012, 10:29:46 PM
More progress on the 350. Today I put on an HEI distributor, oil filter housing, a couple of sensors (one on the pump and one on the intake). I took the exhaust manifolds off of my donor engine but broke the passenger side manifold   bang/head cursin>. The tip and a little of metal from the first port broke off. I'm gonna see if I can get a shop to weld the piece back on and grind the mating surface flat again.

Jon

PS: And my wife wanted to see this guy in the message  bananna' .


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 27, 2012, 08:11:27 AM

 A bit at a time. But sometimes it's one step forward and two steps back. I'm sure there will be a place that can repair that manifold. I'll keep my ear to the rail.

  bananna'

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 27, 2012, 08:59:37 AM
Here are pics of the broken manifold


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on January 27, 2012, 09:34:02 AM
Just put some JB weld on it. <lol>

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 27, 2012, 10:21:51 AM
Just put some JB weld on it. <lol>

GJ

Yeah, I've been mulling over the idea of using exhaust cement ever since it happened.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 27, 2012, 11:07:12 AM

 I'll try and get some info. There's a guy they bring in at work to do specialty welding jobs. I saw a manifold from one of the 6V92's sitting on a pallet the other day. It was broken and they were sending it out for repair.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 27, 2012, 03:28:02 PM
Cast iron can be a pain since it needs to be preheated to control thermal cracking and carbon embrittlement. I've sent pictures to a couple fab shops/engine machining specialists in the area asking for a price. If it's too high, I'll probably try the JB Weld for now. If it leaks, I'll get it redone before I actually put it in the car.
When I looked closely at the fracture surface, I could see slight oxidation over ~70% of the surface area. It looks like the crack must have been there for a while and I was just the straw that broke it's back.

Jon



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 27, 2012, 06:42:55 PM
I looked into the stats of JB Weld and it's only good up to 600 deg. F which is no where near what's seen at the manifolds. I found other high temp metal bonding adhesive "High Temp Steel" that I'll look into.
Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 27, 2012, 10:45:13 PM

 In wasn't able to get much info on the guy that doeas the welding today. I thought that JB Weld may not be up to the temps, but there are other 2-part steel epoxies available that may take the temps.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 28, 2012, 11:08:43 AM
Thanks mike for looking into it. I never got any responses from the fab shops I contacted. I picked up a two part high temp epoxy that advertises as being meant for exhaust manifolds. Now I just need to convince my wife to let me bake the manifold in the oven after I patch it to let the epoxy cure properly (since I'm only starting the engine in the shed it'll never see the operating temperatures needed to cure it, I know the oven won't either,  but it'll probably get closer than a couple minutes of running in the shed).


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on February 04, 2012, 04:01:26 PM
I've joined the pieces together now with the epoxy, and then I cured it by broiling it in the oven for 20 min or so. It seems to be holding. I'm going to file down the surface to make sure it's flat. This week I hope to put it on the engine.

Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 05, 2012, 07:22:02 AM
I put a new wiper motor/washer pump on my 82 a couple of weeks ago, but couldn't get the washer working so yesterday I put an aftermarket electric pump on.
 The washer would work but not the wipers, then I got the wipers working but no washer? <huh?>
 I messed with the wires and got both working, perhaps a bad connection somewhere.


GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 05, 2012, 08:47:26 AM
 
 You finally got them working. I have to admit that that style of wiper/washer has given me fits over the years. When they work good, they work good. But when they begin to screw up that can cause endless hassle.

 Connections on the motor too can go bad a lot. They are pretty exposed.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 06, 2012, 08:51:51 AM
I've noticed that a lot of the wiring around there is very exposed.
 The blower motor quit working on Friday, it turned out to be a corroded wire right at the connecter.
  I have a couple of washer nozzles on order as both of them broke when I was putting the new hoses on. I glued them back together with Automotive Goop. They should hold until I get the new ones. They weren't spraying very good anyway.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 06, 2012, 10:47:42 PM

 They are the copper tube type, correct? I find the newer plastic spray type work so much better. they spray a nice pattern across the windshield and get most all the glass.

 So are the ones you ordered the tube type or do they substitute the new plastic ones?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 07, 2012, 08:30:34 AM
I just asked for washers for an 82 Fleetwood Brougham.
 The looked it up on the computer and told me they were discontinued, so they are looking for NOS.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 12, 2012, 09:40:03 PM
Did a ton of stuff to the caddy today.
Changed the oil.
Changed the transmission fluid, filter, and pan gasket. (The pan gasket was definitely leaking)
I notice I was leaking coolant from the water pump so I decided to replace it. I've gotten as far as removing absolutely everything blocking the water pump except the power steering pump pulley which I discovered I needed a special puller to get off bang/head. I can't believe how big of a job replacing the water pump on this caddy is! {crazy}

Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 12, 2012, 10:37:37 PM

 Yep, the waterpump is fairly involved on those engines. I have the tools you need to pull and install the pulley if you want to borrow them.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 13, 2012, 07:31:02 AM

 Yep, the waterpump is fairly involved on those engines. I have the tools you need to pull and install the pulley if you want to borrow them.

 Mike

Thanks for the offer, but I already picked up a loner from Partsource. I'm actually a little worried about reinstalling the power steering pump pulley after I'm done:
The end of the pump shaft has a torx bit fitting and the threads to reattach the pulley are recessed out of sight. Before I knew it was a pressed on pulley, I though the torx fitting was for a bolt holding the pulley on. So I jammed the pulleys and tried like hell to get the bolt out (which actually was the pump shaft). I use heat, tons of penetrant a few bad words and an extra long wrench. I was worried about stripping the torx shape so I really hammered the bit into place. I hope I didn't damage the recessed threads while I was doing all that.

I called your place last night before I found out about the pulley puller hoping you might have some magic trick up your sleeve to get the non-existent bolt out, I guess you would have had one!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 13, 2012, 08:29:28 AM

 Normally it's a 3/8-16 thread in the shaft of the pump. Maybe this one is metric, I'll have to look. But I bet you've done considerable damage to those threads with your attempts to get the pulley off. With a little luck you should be able to repair them using a tap. If you can't repair them, do not attempt to hammer on the pulley, that will more than likely destroy the innards of the pump.

 BTW, I work until 11:00 each night.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 13, 2012, 09:04:13 AM

 I just looked in the manual. It states to use the installer tool, but does not mention what threads are in the shaft. However, I am fairly sure they are 3/8-16 since this tool is used generically for all GM P/S pulley installation. Look at the threads on the tool and see if a 3/8 (9/16" external nut size) nut will thread on.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 13, 2012, 09:21:54 AM
So far everything on this car has been metric,  but I wouldn't be surprised if they have the 3/8 thread on the pump.

I looked into the hole as best I could with a small mirror and found that there is a shoulder that separates the torx section from the threads,  so I think I might be ok.

I'll keep my taps handy just in case.  I might try and get some more done to it tonight.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 13, 2012, 09:50:00 AM

 I'm planning on popping over with Gareth on Friday. I'm going to bring my A/C gauges and the manual. If there is anything else you need, just let me know.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 13, 2012, 10:33:54 AM
Sounds good,  I'll let you know if I can think of anything.

Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 13, 2012, 08:40:12 PM
Well,  I tried to use the special pulley puller for the power steering pump. It was the right one (it wraps all the way around the pulley flange to get the maximum possible contact area). but the pulley was so seized onto the pump shaft that the little flange on the pulley sheared right off cursin>. 
I went down the street to Forbes to see if any of the mechanics there had come across this problem before, and they started talking about a guy who used to work there who loved caddies and that he might be able to help. So I asked if the guy's name so happened to be Mike?  Yup!
Anywho, I decided that since the flange was sheared off,  I needed a new pulley anyway, so I ordered one while I was there. And since the pump shaft of the pump was so mangled and this point, I went onto Rockauto and ordered a new pump (shipping was almost as much as the pump!  eh%).
I got back to the car and used my angle grinder to cut the bad pulley off. Now I can easily remove the steering pump and just put in the new pulley and pump.
I at least continued with the water pump and got that switched out with the new one.
I was a little surprised to see that there was a piece of sheet metal the separated the pump from the block and also went around the crankshaft. I couldn't see any way of getting it off without pulling the crank. I know that it was loose, so I hope it seals again nicely with the pump tightly in place.

No I've just got to reassemble all the accessories and wait for the new power steering pump.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 13, 2012, 10:44:45 PM

  <doh!>

  I feel your pain! However there are always things that happen working on older cars. A new pump and pulley now.You try and anticipate things the best you can and hope for the best.

 Man, those guys all still remember me. I still go in there occasionally for a social and spend a copuple of hours chatting with folk. Thay are a good bunch of people there. In many ways I still miss the place because of the people.

 Well anyway, we'll have a look see at that compressor on Friday and see if we can see what's going on.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 14, 2012, 05:07:08 AM
I was talking to Fletch, I've used him before to help me find some wildcat parts when I was doing the engine rebuild, nice guy.

I'm looking at the positive side of this: I plan on having this car for a very long time, so now I don't have to worry about the power steering pump. And since I'm gonna lather it with the highest quality anti-seize, I know it will come off no problem in the future. I'll just have to delay the purchase of a new convertible top motor for the wildcat.

I'm interested in seeing what the pressure on the A/C system is. Again I tried to bypass the resistor pack by putting a full 12V to the blue wire, but this time it didn't engage the clutch (but it did last week!). So I'm wondering if the pressure is in that middle ground between 20 and 30.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 14, 2012, 08:05:44 AM

 Fletch, which one is he? I've not known any of them by that name.

 I agree if you're pkanning on keeping the car, replace with new parts. That way there will be no worries in the future.

 I'm thinking the same thing. The pressure may be right in that grey area where the pressure switch may or may not be closed. If so, you can put a can of refrigerant into it and see what that does. But you'll need the engine running to do that.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on March 14, 2012, 09:47:38 AM

 I'm planning on popping over with Gareth on Friday.

Great! Maybe you can have a look at my cruise control. It stopped working 2 weeks ago.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 14, 2012, 10:09:52 AM

 I'll have a quick look see after we get back here. But first look closely at all the connections, electrical and vacuum.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 14, 2012, 10:16:55 AM
I got everything except the power steering pump belt all hooked up and ready to go. I ran the car for 30-40 min and not a hint of a leak anywhere! whoo/hoo

Oh,  and when I filled the tranny fluid up, I accidentally put the level a couple millimeters past the end of the "safe" zone. Do I have anything to worry about?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 14, 2012, 10:43:04 AM

 Excellent! Good work.

 I wouldn't worry too much about a very slight amount over. It will be fine.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 14, 2012, 12:42:04 PM
Then I won't lose any sleep over it.

What time works for you guys on Friday?
Morning works best and the earlier the better for me since I'll need to go into work after we're done. The other possibility is an after work thing but I think I've used up most of my wife's patience in the last few days when it comes to spending my evenings on car stuff.

Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 14, 2012, 12:50:19 PM

 Fletch, which one is he? I've not known any of them by that name.

 I agree if you're pkanning on keeping the car, replace with new parts. That way there will be no worries in the future.

 I'm thinking the same thing. The pressure may be right in that grey area where the pressure switch may or may not be closed. If so, you can put a can of refrigerant into it and see what that does. But you'll need the engine running to do that.

 Mike

I missed this post somehow.

Fletch is Gordon Fletcher, maybe he's new.
Well the engine is running now.....  but the compressor is run off of the same belt as the power steering pump, so it's not doing anything until my new parts arrive.
If I can get the clutch to move to the engaged position when it is supposed to then I'll be happy.

Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 14, 2012, 10:51:08 PM

 Later in the morning works best for me. I sleep a bit later because of my work hours. What time do you head in for work?

 Evenings are pretty much out for me since that's when I work. On my days off, I like to have a couple of beers in the afternoon, so later ventures could alsdo be considered out.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 15, 2012, 07:16:43 AM
I don't have a set time for work, so what ever time still gives you some good sleep and time to wake up works.

Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 15, 2012, 08:26:27 AM

 Excellent. So I'll be there later in the morning, say around 10:00?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on March 15, 2012, 09:10:36 AM
10 AM works for me as well.
 I have to be home around 3, so I'll have lots of time.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 15, 2012, 09:44:12 AM
10 am works,

I sent an e-mail with my address to both of you. I've got my volt meter all ready for you car GJ!

Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 15, 2012, 09:46:49 AM

 Yep, got it.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on March 15, 2012, 10:19:23 AM
10-4........ see ya tomorrow.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 16, 2012, 01:10:21 PM
Thanks guys for coming out, we found that the resistor module I picked up from the wreckers is more useful as a paper weight than in the car.

I've already returned it and got my 80 bucks back in the form of a credit for a future part.

I'll contact the guy I found who has all the spares and let you know how many he has.

Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 17, 2012, 10:28:23 AM

 Glad to do it! And I've seen another way that those modules can fail.

 Yes, I'd like to know more about the modules that guy has.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 18, 2012, 07:07:29 AM

 Yesterday I decided to pull the plugs on the Brougham to see if I could determine where the head gasket had failed. But that did not really reveal anything.

 (http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/guidematic/90%20Brougham/004%20Head%20Gaskets%20Mar%202012/SAM_3534.jpg)

 (http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/guidematic/90%20Brougham/004%20Head%20Gaskets%20Mar%202012/SAM_3530.jpg)

 I pressurised the cooling system with the right bank of plugs out, but while there was pressure loss in the system, it did not go into any of those cylinders. Perhaps the issue is on the left side. There is a miss, so I'll have to determine which cylinder it is, pull that plug and do a compression check as well as pressurise the system again.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 19, 2012, 08:40:49 AM
wow, those boots must have been stuck pretty bad, I've never broken the insulators off like that.

I'd just do a compression check on all the cylinders just to learn what I can about what's going on in that engine.
A trick I've seen is to make sure the valves are closed (can pull the rocker arms off) and presurize the cylinder through the spark plug hole. If you can see bubbles in the radiator than there's your leak.

Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 19, 2012, 08:50:36 AM

 They broke off whan the socket slipped a bit. They were jammed in there pretty tight. The boots came off easily, though.

 I'm confident that the problem is on the left side now. When I started the car yesterday, after the engine ran a bit, there was a cloud of white smoke that reeked of coolant. What I want to do is determine which cylinder the miss is in, then focus on that one. Do a compression check and then just to be sure put my pressure tester on and see if coolant goes into that cylinder. Then I'll have my quarry!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 24, 2012, 10:53:11 AM
Since my new power steering pump and pulley arrived, I tried to put them in last night.
I used the installing bolt, nut and washer that came with the pump.  I had used a crescent wrench that was about 9" long to tighten the nut which drives the pulley onto the shaft. I got it mostly on,  but not all the way on. I've attached some pictures and I drew a red line on one of them to show the offset of the belt groves.
I didn't want to try any harder since I could barely turn the wrench and when I took the bolt out,  it had resistance most of the way out (maybe stretched the bolt a bit).
Should I use a bigger wrench?  is the little offset not a problem? (the belt went on fine and doesn't have any noticeable bend in it since the pulleys a far apart from each other).
Should I lubricate the pulley/washer connection?  I used heat to try and help me get it on,  it helped a little, but not enough.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 24, 2012, 10:51:00 PM

 No, I wouldn't use any more force to pull that pulley on if you feel that you are pulling too hard. It seems thast something may be preventing the pulley from going on all the way, but also because both parts ar new there may be more resistance than you would expect. Sometimes I'ver struggled with putting pulleys back on the same shaft they came off. But I use a bit of light lube like WD40 which helps the installation a bit.

 I bet the bolt did stretch a bit.

 Mike

 Oh, and BTW, I cam home to a nice surprise today. A sunroof sitting in the hallway! Thanks for picking that up for me.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 25, 2012, 07:14:09 AM
Yeah,  I'm inclined to leave the pulley where it is.  The belt isn't really being pulled to the side at all. The only downside that I can think of right now is that the power steering pump shaft will be loaded a little further forward which will put some extra stress on the shaft bearings.

I had coated the pump shaft with the anti-seize compound with copper in it. I had hoped that it would lube it up nicely but I'm wondering if maybe it just made the press fit a little too tight.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 25, 2012, 09:17:23 AM

 Time will tell. If it develops a habit of premature belt wear, or even tosses belts, you'll have to deal with it. I wouldn't be too concerned about bearing loading, though. Those bearings are pretty stout in there.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 03, 2012, 09:40:17 AM
I finally got a chance to finish putting everything back together and she drives like a dream now (with no leaks!). :cruisin:
It only took 3 weeks to change the water pump, maybe I should try my hand at doing this professionally! wheel/chair

Now I'm just waiting on the blower resistor module to get the A/C working. I contacted the guy online and he's happy to give me one, but I got the feeling he only wanted to let one go. I've just got to wait for him to find the time to test the module like we did on mine before shipping it up here.

Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 04, 2012, 10:44:20 AM
So your driving it now? Great news. I got my 94 out of storage last Friday, you'll have to see it.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 04, 2012, 02:46:33 PM
So your driving it now? Great news. I got my 94 out of storage last Friday, you'll have to see it.

GJ

well,  she drove the length of my driveway beautifully.   I can't afford to have all my cars on the road at the same time and I need the truck to finish a bathroom reno. It'll probably another week or two, then I'll park the truck.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 05, 2012, 09:06:40 AM
At least it's ready to go.
 Time for a really good clean up now, you got a good buffer?

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 05, 2012, 09:47:34 AM
At least it's ready to go.
 Time for a really good clean up now, you got a good buffer?

GJ

No buffer here, do you have one?

Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 05, 2012, 01:47:09 PM
Yea, my elbow. But my brother has a nice one.
We will have to wait till he gets home from his cabin... maybe we can all have a car cleaning day.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 09, 2012, 02:12:11 PM

 Yep, home now.

 We had a great week at the cabin...... We scored 5 perfect chrome chairs to match the table for pretty much nothing.

 Good to hear that you have got everyting in proper working order. About putting all the cars on the road? You can get vintage car insurance for the Fleetwood for chump change. You can't drive it everyday, but you can still enjoy it.

 And yes, I have a good car buffer and you're welcome to use it anytime.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 09, 2012, 02:21:52 PM

 Oh, and when I got home, the water valve I oprdered was here. 15 minutes and it was on.

 So I chased the miss. It was on #8 cylinder. The spark tester showed good spark, but I replaced the wire, and the miss seemed to go away. Then during a short drive to the beer store , it came back. Maybe it's in the cap? But I have to do a compression test to see what it is. #8 is the hardest to get at, so I'll have to wait until it cools off.

  If it's off, then I have deeper problems than just a blown head gasket.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 09, 2012, 03:02:22 PM

  If it's off, then I have deeper problems than just a blown head gasket.

 Mike

What are you thinking is off? compression? timing on that cylinder? Head gasket seems to me like a pretty deep item! Can you take the heads off this engine without pulling the intake manifold?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 09, 2012, 03:16:24 PM

 I'm thinking maybe a burned valve or cracked head. The heads will already be off, so the job would be easier in just replacing them, but the extra cost is more than what I want to deal with.

 And no, I would never remove a head and leave the intake on. It can and has been done, but it's far from the proper way of doing it.

 A compression test will reveal more.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 09, 2012, 04:55:40 PM

 About putting all the cars on the road? You can get vintage car insurance for the Fleetwood for chump change. You can't drive it everyday, but you can still enjoy it.

 

Jeez,  these prices are good!  I'll try and get both the Wildcat and the Caddy on historic insurance.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 15, 2012, 12:13:41 PM
Yea, my elbow. But my brother has a nice one.
We will have to wait till he gets home from his cabin... maybe we can all have a car cleaning day.

GJ

I picked up a Mother's Power ball yesterday on sale and tried it out with a little chrome polish I had laying around.  I think it'll work pretty good for the chrome (but it's not meant for paint.
It'll take a bit of time, but hopefully I can get a good bit done before we go to London.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 15, 2012, 05:49:14 PM

 Yeah, I have some major cleaning to do as well. I'm not sure of the specifics of the FCI just yet, just that I'll be there. Too many things up in the air for me at the moment.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 16, 2012, 08:24:44 PM
I found an acceptable (not perfect) method of cleaning all the leaves and stuff that are stuck to the inside of my car cover (it fell on the ground and the nice soft inside fabric seems to be the worlds greatest velcro material!).
I put the cover on the car upside down so that everything was sticking up, then spent 45 min with a vacuum getting most of it off.

BTW GJ, how's the blower motor working since we did that Micky Mouse connector fix?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 16, 2012, 10:37:41 PM

 Good idea. Yes, leaves an small twigs stick to that stuff like glue.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 17, 2012, 08:56:59 AM


BTW GJ, how's the blower motor working since we did that Micky Mouse connector fix?

It works fine... so I guess it wasn't that Mickey Mouse after all.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 21, 2012, 10:36:02 AM
The ELC system has been leaking in my 94, so yesterday I pulled the compressor.
 The control head was full of crap and the exhaust valve wasn't sealing.
I was lucky enough to score a control head from an older compressor that was in great shape(I was told not to divulge where I got it). It works like a charm now, I just need to track down another slow leak somewhere else in the system.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 23, 2012, 07:26:14 PM

 About putting all the cars on the road? You can get vintage car insurance for the Fleetwood for chump change. You can't drive it everyday, but you can still enjoy it.

 

Jeez,  these prices are good!  I'll try and get both the Wildcat and the Caddy on historic insurance.

I've done a little shopping around,  and I've found the following top two choices:
State farm historic insurance: 1500km yearly limit, cheap rates, anyone in the household can drive it. Plus keeps my truck insurance low due to multiple vehicles.
Hagarty historic insurance: no yearly km limit, ~30% higher rates then state farm. Only someone with 10 years full license can drive (my wife has had her G1 for 13 years and has never taken her G1 exit test).

Since I don't plan on driving the Wildcat more than 1500km per year,  It'll definitely go with State Farm.
But the Caddy is planning on seeing a few more km's than 1500. Although it's my wifes favorite car that we've ever owned (she wants it for herself once she gets the courage to get her license) and I can't justify making her wait 10 years to drive it!. I guess I'll have to make up my mind soon.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 23, 2012, 10:31:42 PM

 Check oput Zehr Insurance in New Hamburg. It's cheap and no restrictions on mileage. That's who I have all my insurance with.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 24, 2012, 08:50:12 AM
Yeah, Zehr insurace has the 10 year full license requirement like Hagarty.

I think I'll probably play insurance leap frog with the truck and the caddy until after my 3000km road trip this summer, then put it on the State farm plan.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 24, 2012, 09:59:13 AM

 Guess that's why he never mentioned that part to me. Both the wife and I have been driving since the 70's.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 24, 2012, 10:21:29 AM

 Guess that's why he never mentioned that part to me. Both the wife and I have been driving since the 70's.

 Mike

lol, guess they recognize an experienced driver when they see one!
When was the last time you were ID'd at the liquor store? drink/o/beer

I'm surprised they didn't mention it in case your kids wanted to drive them. Can't have a G1 driver even if your in the passenger seat.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 24, 2012, 10:24:56 AM

 Neither of my kids are licenced, so that's not an issue. And I doubt I would let them drive the '70 anyway.

 Geez, it must have been in the very late 70's when they last asked me for ID. And then a driver's licence was sufficient.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 24, 2012, 10:42:11 AM
Driver's license is still good, you can also get special ID cards from the LCBO if you don't have a license.

I've got another few days left on the bathroom reno,  so I hope to get the Caddy launched next week.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 24, 2012, 10:26:30 PM

 My two girls had to jump through hoops to get their cards. I think it's easier to get a passport than one of those cards.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 25, 2012, 08:41:50 AM
Driver's license is still good,

As it is a photo ID, however back in the days when we were asked it was just a piece of paper without a photo.
 Last time I was asked was 1984.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 25, 2012, 08:59:15 AM
Last time I was asked was 1984.

I was around for some of 84,  but not all of it...  ;)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 25, 2012, 09:16:45 AM
We were getting the beer store warmed up for you. drink/o/beer

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 25, 2012, 09:17:56 AM

 Warmed up or cooled off? I hate warm beer.   la/la

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 25, 2012, 09:21:08 AM
55 F is the optimal temperature....... unless your drinking Macro swill. They recommend that it is ice cold so you can't taste it.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 25, 2012, 10:05:22 AM
For the darker beers/ales,  I like them half way between fridge and room temp.  I'll take them out of the fridge a little bit before I drink them.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 25, 2012, 10:06:35 AM
Does anyone have a Dial Back Timing light? 
I've got 2 regular ones,  but no Dial back kind.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 25, 2012, 10:30:05 AM

 Yeah, I have one. You're welcome to borrow it if need be.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 13, 2012, 07:41:29 AM

 Jim's back in town! He dropped by yesterday with his '72 Eldorado convertible. We got to talking about the level control, getting it working. Replacing the springs or putting in new air shocks and so forth. The back of the car rides really low. So I went over to have a look see under the car and found that it had recent Monroe air shocks, then there was an air line right to a valve under the bumper. So, I put in some air and the back came up really nice and stayed there.

 I pulled the compressor, hooked it up to a vacuum scource, and it began to operate, but it would not build air. On the extyerior after cleaning it's really nice, but I'll have to take it apart to see why it won't build air.

 I played with the carb a bit too. Got the idle down and a bit smoother, but it needs a good tune-up and carb overhaul. That should get the fuel economy back to a decent level.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 14, 2012, 03:08:36 PM

 Today I decided to take the Brougham out for a spin. The AC would not blow out the vents, but only on the floor. OK, we have a vacuum issue here. Then I gopt to thinking that maybe that has something to do with the miss. There is a vacuum fitting coming off #8 intake runner, the cylinder with the miss. That also supplies the AC controls. I pinched the hose and the engine smoothed right out.

 I traced the hose behind the MAP sensor and spark knock mudule on the firewall, where I couldn't access the hose. I removed the bracket and found one collapsed hose and another short piec that was torn open. I fixed the hoses, connected the modules again and now she runs smooth and sweet!

That's a big load off my mind, and now when I get the time I can tear into this head gasket job.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 14, 2012, 04:02:17 PM
Good job. I doubt I ever would have caught that!
you should hook it back up the tester to see how much it improved that cylinder.

Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 14, 2012, 04:39:43 PM

 Yeah, should do.

 This car hasn't run so smooth and quiet since I got it. I bet everything on the scope will be within 1%. That's good.

 When I first got it, it had a rumble through the muffler, it wasn't leaking. Just noisy. Then it developerd the miss, then the muffler went. I repaired the exhaust, but the miss was still there. Now it is super quiet and smooth.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 17, 2012, 02:57:46 PM
  <doh!>What did I do to My Cadillac to-day ? Something really stupid, that's what.
I decided to give the old girl a good cleaning. Whenever I wash the car I always clean the tires first.
I had two bottles of Simonize Tire Cleaner, one full and the other with just a little left. I removed the sprayers from the bottles and emptied one into the other. For some reason I placed the sprayers on my vinyl roof. They leaked
and ran down the side of the roof beside the opera lamp and stained the vinyl. The almond metallic colour is now
just tan streaks that I have to repair. Forunately I have the materials and know how to repair this dumb mistake.
I will have to re-dye my whole roof, something I haven't done for many years.
Some of you know that I used to do cosmetic repairs to vinyl, leather and plastic. I have re-coloured many vinyl
tops but never one of my own. It's a rather easy but time consuming operation, especially mixing the proper
colours together to get the right colour for the roof. I have no idea how long the colouring job will last because
the jobs I did were on used cars and I never saw them again.    RONNIE


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 17, 2012, 03:18:18 PM
Ouch!
I feel for you.  I've had my fair share of attention lapses resulting in paint scratchs or worse (I'm still getting used to wearing a wedding ring, just had our 4 year anniversary).  At least you know what to do.
If you never saw any come back, they probably lasted a long time.

Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 17, 2012, 04:00:16 PM
When I started my job at Wabtec Corp in 1975 one of the rules was to not wear any hand jewelry including
wedding rings. As we get older we tend to put on a few pounds. I did just that and haven't been able to wear it since. I don't know if that's good or bad.
                                                                     RONNIE


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 22, 2012, 08:17:24 AM

 Man, that really sucks! I have committed faux paus over the years as well that amount to just that, a silly action that results in a big mess.

 I can't wear any jewellery, watches or anything like that on the job for obvious reasons. When I first got married, I wore my wedding ring on the weekends only, but after awhile just got out of the habit. I don't even know if it will fit anymore.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 05, 2012, 10:07:16 PM
About my roof. I used my SEM Soap and gave to vinyl a real good scrubbing. It's amazing how dirty the roof
can get in just 3 years. Fortunately I was able to clean it to the point were the damage is almost un-noticable
so I didn't bother to re-dye it. I did however mask off and recoloured that metal band that goes around the
bottom of the roof. It was the same colour of the old roof and didn't match the new roof colour or the body colour.
It looks great now and like it belongs that way. My colour match was perfect for a scratch mix.
A good coat of Auto Glym protectant and it looks new again .   
            RONNIE 8)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on June 06, 2012, 10:23:51 AM
Nice!
When I was looking at your car when I came down for the bumpers,  I never noticed the colour mismatch.

Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on June 16, 2012, 10:37:39 AM
I got the new tires on my 82.
 Cooper Eldorado's. $496 clams installed/balanced and taxes in.

GJ

I just called Ontario tire today, the price has gone up to 530+tax    censored/


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on June 16, 2012, 10:44:41 AM
That's still a good price. I'm looking at over $700 to put tires on my 94.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on June 16, 2012, 10:52:25 AM
Yeah,  I know it's still a good price.  I was quoted at 570 for the same tires at Tire co.

What makes the tires so expensive on the 94?

Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 16, 2012, 03:41:10 PM

 They are 70 series with whitewalls. They are going the way of the great white whale.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 17, 2012, 07:00:33 PM
I was out looking at another possible project to-day . It's a silver 89 Eldorado Biarritz,a tad on the rough side
but overall not a bad looking car. It does need work but could be a nice ride when restored. He wants $1100 OBO.
165,00 miles, good interior except for the front seats, needs a gas tank, and maybe a heater core. The body
appears to be solid, the paint is good but needs to be buffed to bring back the shine Because of the gas tank leak it's not driveable. I might go back tomorrow for a closer look. This could be a keeper for the right price.
                                                                         RONNIE                     


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 17, 2012, 08:05:32 PM

 Those little Eldos are great drivers. Fun to drive and plenty of power. Plus they are good on gas.

 The interior is not in nice shape on my '88 Eldo, and I have not found a car with a decent interior that I could salvage. This after owning the car for 6 years.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 17, 2012, 08:38:12 PM
I think my '85 is a much classier looking car. Even though they are both Eldoradoes the '85 has a more
elegant appearance. You know it's a Cadillac from first glance.
One of my paper customers is a Cadillac guy. He just traded is Escalade in for a new black DTS and he
keeps a nice beige Allente hidden away in his garage. I saw it for the first time this morning. but didn't see him.
Would make a great addition to the club don'tcha think ? I will talk to him later this week.

                                    RONNIE


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 17, 2012, 11:05:37 PM

 Yes, the '85 is much classier by far.

 The downsized '86 and later cars were a function of the mindset at GM at the time. Simply put they went to far with it. Even Wayne Kady who was responsible for exterior design at the time would rather forget these cars.

 However, taken on their own merits, they are a pretty decent car, and very comfortable. I was quite taken by my '88 even though it is a rather scruffy example.

 I would say he would make a great addition to the club. Let us know how the conversation goes once it happens.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on June 18, 2012, 05:28:23 AM
I was out looking at another possible project to-day . It's a silver 89 Eldorado Biarritz,a tad on the rough side
but overall not a bad looking car. It does need work but could be a nice ride when restored. He wants $1100 OBO.
165,00 miles, good interior except for the front seats, needs a gas tank, and maybe a heater core. The body
appears to be solid, the paint is good but needs to be buffed to bring back the shine Because of the gas tank leak it's not driveable. I might go back tomorrow for a closer look. This could be a keeper for the right price.
                                                                         RONNIE                     

I have owned 2 of this type of Cadillacs, 1 Eldo 1990 & 1 Seville 1986. I loved them both.....but you should not pay more that $750.00 for that example. Just my 2 cents.

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 18, 2012, 06:48:22 AM
AHH ! The Seville. I love them, especially the early ones but the mid 80's body style really does it for me.
The long hood that could double as the flight deck of an aircraft carrier and that short stubby rear section.
When I first started doing the vinyl repair thing back in 1990 my first customer was a used car dealer that
sold high end cars that were bought at auction in the southern U S. The transporter truck would come back
from Florida or Georgia once a month loaded with 1980's Cadillacs, Lincolns, Jaguars and the occasional
British sports car. It was my job to go over them and make any needed cosmetic repairs. What I did mostly,
among other things, was refinish sun damaged vinyl roofs, dashes, front seats & some windshield chip repairs.
I did some work on a 1985 Seville. It was black over gold with a black after market canvas convertable
top that are so popular in the U.S. The black paint had to be stripped and redone and the gold sides buffed up
but when it was ready for sale that car was a vision to behold with it's whitewalls and wire wheel covers.
It was beautiful and so elegant to look at. They sold that car within a day or two of it being in the showroom.
It sort of reminded me of the car in the movie "The Yellow Rolls Royce".  I've been hooked on them ever since.
                                            RONNIE


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on June 18, 2012, 06:55:19 AM
I agree with Rene. $1100 is way to much for an un-drivable version of that car.  If the tanks gone,  you should check the lines too.    Is this an american car for it to be reading miles?  In 89 there should be a button to switch the display to metric.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on June 18, 2012, 06:59:36 AM
A friend of mine has a fantastic condition gold coloured 80's Seville for sale here in town.  The car's been undercoated so much,  it's always dripped in the hot weather.  He refused to sell it to one guy who wanted it because the guy said he was going to use it as a daily driver.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on June 18, 2012, 07:21:26 AM
My 1986 Seville was a 3 gen body, like this: http://barrie.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-1986-Cadillac-Seville-Sedan-W0QQAdIdZ336273251

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on June 18, 2012, 07:43:06 AM
This is what his car looks like,  only it's a little more golden if I remember correctly.   It's got the HT4100


Title: !
Post by: guidematic on June 18, 2012, 08:29:17 AM

 On this '89, the fuel leak could get expensive. The lines were bad for corroding ahead of the rt rr wheel.

 I bought mine for $600. The waterpump was literally coming apart, the gauges worked when they wanted, it needed brakes front and rear, front tires and the exhaust repaired where the convertor was cut out. But it turned intop a good reliable driver. There are a few electrical glitches still and the AC doesn't work.

 But still, it's a blast to drive. No restriction caused by a convertor and the timing advanced to 14BTDC I think I bought maybe another 15 HP. And it can get over 30 MPG.

 I would like to find a really nice example to replace it, preferrably a '91 ETC or STS with the 4.9. Those cars can really run!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 18, 2012, 06:18:02 PM

 I had a bit of time today to mess with those driveability issues on the '90 Brougham and the '94 Fleetwood.

 I was out when the '94 started acting up again and had the scanner on it. I already replaced the CTS, but that did not help. Idling in the driveway the temp went up to the 205F area and stayed there, the smaller of the 2 fans was running but not the large one. We went to the inlaws to do a little chore and when I started it the engine was running quite rough. The temp was up over 210 and approaching 215 and the Fuel Integrator was running in the 145-150 area. It's supposed to be in the 128 area. then the engine began to run smoother as the FI returned to the 128 area. So, I'm thinking that high temp is messing that up. I'm going to replace the thermostat and go from there.

 Then I got into the '90 Brougham. I pulled the EGR and it was fine. I found the gasket for the IAC was crumbling and it created a vacuum leak. I sealed the threads with some pipe sealer. Neither of these things had any effect. On the sacnner it was runiing in the 700 RPM area, and putting it in gear it still stalled. I messed with the timing, both up and down. From 0 to 10.

 As the engine got hotter, the idle went down to 600 in park, and when I put it in gear it was 475. Sometimes it would stall, sometimes it wouldn't. No matter what I did to try and influence the idle, it settled on 600. So, is that correct? If not why is it commanded so low? Typically you want the idle with no load to be in the 700 range.

 BTW, the O2 sensor is very lazy, just sitting in the 625mV range, but the block learn and fuel integrator are smack on 128.

 More investigation is needed here.

 Mike 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 23, 2012, 09:40:11 AM
I think I'm going to pass on that "89 Biarritz. I had another but closer look at it and it appears decent enough
from the rocker panels up but I couldn't get a very good look at the chassis. I've been told by several people now
of what I could be in for if I got it. I don't want a money pit. The cosmetic part of the car is doable but the unseen
mechanical aspect of it makes it a risky purchase especially since it isn't drivable because of the gas tank.
It would better going to Florida and buying something down there and bringing it back.  They are cheap enough to buy although a bit more costly that here but it may be worth investigating.
I know the new car manager (only via e-mails) of Devoe Cadillac in Naples where my '85 was originally purchased.
I should call him one day for some info of what's available locally there. Who knows what could turn up ?
I was looking at websites in Florida to see what was available but it was almost all really late model stuff.
One car did pop up however on a quick to get rid of sale. A mint '85 Eldorado Biarritz, loaded, silver with grey leather and matching roof. 73,000 US miles-  $4750.00.  I'm game but the wife isn't. She isn't that crazy about the one I already have let alone having a second one.

                                RONNIE


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 24, 2012, 08:35:49 AM

 Probably a good plan. If you get into rusty fuel lines, you'll really have your work cut out for you. I would imnagine that there would be some good examples in the US.

 On another note. I was out and about with the '90 Brougham yesterday, and it ran perfectly. No stalling whatsoever. The idle is completely smooth and silent. Power delivery is immediate. Fuel economy is outstanding.

 But when I got home, I noticed a leak on the right front. It turned out to be a coupling in one of the trans cooler lines. I tightened it up, and that did the trick.

 So, in a word, I'm very satisfied with the car right now.

 Today I hope to get at the '94 and replace the thermostat. Then go from there to see how it goes.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on June 24, 2012, 09:14:11 AM
At least changing the thermostat in the 94 will be a very simple job.
 Should take 10 minutes once you've drained the coolant.


GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on June 24, 2012, 09:21:56 AM
2 or 1 thermostats in the 94?

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 24, 2012, 09:39:56 AM

 One thermostat.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 24, 2012, 02:00:42 PM

 I replaced it, and went for a good drive. The temp went up to 197F and that was it. Idling it was 194. So I let it heat soak for 15 minutes, and it started right up. Looks like maybe I have it fixed.   whoo/hoo

 Imagine, replacing a thermostat to repair a hot no-start. I shows how necessary these scanners are with thes cars.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on June 25, 2012, 08:31:25 AM
Maybe I should get you to read your scanner when it's plugged into my 94.
 I still have an issue with no power until it has run for a few minutes.

2 or 1 thermostats in the 94?


What has 2 thermostats in it?

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 25, 2012, 09:15:32 AM

 Yep, we'll have a look see when it's cold and see if anything is amiss.

 Most heavy truck engines have 2 thermostats.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on June 25, 2012, 04:18:29 PM
Nothing on the caddy, But I spent the last 3 days with my father in law slowly dismantling the tree in front of my house.  I was rotting in the center and the 18" diameter branches didn't have much holding them up.  The base of the tree was ~30" in diameter.  It was up taller than the hydro wires and was tall enough to hit the house if it fell the other way so we had to carefully take it down piece by piece.  I then chopped it up and hauled it over to my buddy who lives just outside of St. Jacobs.  I borrowed his trailer and it took 5 trips with the trailer full and the truck bed full to get the wood out there.

I kept thinking about your saw Rene as I was notching the and cutting the trunk up with my 18" Poulan.

It was the bigger tree on the right.  Of course, at this time of year it had all of it's leaves on it.

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Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 25, 2012, 10:35:39 PM


 What's all the white stuff?  <lol>

 Man, you really had a chore cutting that down and transporting all the wood. Someone got a good deal on some good firewood, didn't they?

 I have an 18" Poulan as well, it did yeoman service cutting up my firewood at the cabin.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on June 26, 2012, 08:18:26 AM
I spent all day Saturday cutting down a tree at a friends place.
 It was right up the side of the house and was a bit of a challenge. He only had a small electric chain saw which made it a slow process. But we got it down without any injury or damage to the house. In return he fed me a great big Black Angus Rib-eye steak.
 I'm not sure that I'd want to cut anything down close to Hydro wires though.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on June 26, 2012, 09:11:52 AM
That pic's from February 2010 when we made an offer on the house. I'll get a pic of the new landscaping. I've also cut down the tall juniper bushes surrounding the porch.

There were 2 sets of hydro wires to worry about: The main one along the poles at the street.  And also the feed to our house (hard to see, but it runs over the cars and connects to the house a few feet below the eaves).  I had called the hydro company about getting them to take it down,  but they said they'd just trim the branches around the wires. So Thursday morning they came out and did just that, they only trimmed the branches sticking out through and around the wires. They didn't cut down the branches around the feed to the house or the ones that were above the main wires!!   I borrowed my neighbour's 60m climbing rope to tie on the branches so that one person cut, and the other pulled them clear of the wires.  Unfortunately as I was chopping up all the wood on the ground, I accidentally nicked his rope ($200 mistake).  But at least I now own a nice 20m and a nice 40m rope!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 26, 2012, 11:25:16 AM
That secret car I wouldn't talk about turns out to be a scam. The reply to my e-mail was flagged as junk mail by Shaw cable. When I first saw the Auto Trader ad on the computer I had a feeling something was wrong because the price was just too good to be true but I didn't want to reveal any details in case this was for real.
A 1985 Biarritz ragtop, 53,000 miles in mint condition. She sent pictures of the car and it's gorgeous, a real stunner.
The story is that she is a recent divorcee who really needs the money therefore the unbelievable low price. It goes on about a clean title, no accidents, includes a new set of winter tires, yada yada.
I replied that I was really interested but I had to see the car first. I was going to ask for the serial number so I could
do a search with the DOT but I didn't. While I was waiting for a reply I had to run a few errands so I stopped in to see my friend Tony who knows Cadillacs. Tony is my local Mike Jones whose knowledge and advice I value. I started to tell him about the car and he immediately he knew what I was talking about. He said it was a scam because he also answered the ad.
The owner is apparently in St John's NFLD visiting family but the car is in Toronto. She wanted me to take delivery
of it so I could check it out then pay her via E-Bay if I wanted to keep it. Anyway her reply to me was identical to the one she sent Tony, the same story word for word. Tony said that from the pics he saw of the car that it was worth at least $10,000. I also saw that her wording and spelling in her replies was remaniscent of those e-mails from Africa et al wanting help retrieving millions of $$. Check out the ad for yourself. It's Auto Trader .ca Cadillacs.
                                                RONNIE


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 26, 2012, 10:41:13 PM

 It's a good thing you caught it, but usually these scams are just a bit out there and it arises your suspicions. The clincher is when Tony had exactly the same experience. These scam artists will constantly troll like this and eventually they will catch someone that falls for their scam, then they are several thousand dollars richer for it. It's been a problem on places loike Kijiji, Craig's list and Ebay for some time.

 The old term caveat emptor has never been so true in cases like this.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on June 27, 2012, 09:10:44 AM
That secret car I wouldn't talk about turns out to be a scam. The reply to my e-mail was flagged as junk mail by Shaw cable. When I first saw the Auto Trader ad on the computer I had a feeling something was wrong because the price was just too good to be true but I didn't want to reveal any details in case this was for real.
A 1985 Biarritz ragtop, 53,000 miles in mint condition. She sent pictures of the car and it's gorgeous, a real stunner.
The story is that she is a recent divorcee who really needs the money therefore the unbelievable low price. It goes on about a clean title, no accidents, includes a new set of winter tires, yada yada.
I replied that I was really interested but I had to see the car first. I was going to ask for the serial number so I could
do a search with the DOT but I didn't. While I was waiting for a reply I had to run a few errands so I stopped in to see my friend Tony who knows Cadillacs. Tony is my local Mike Jones whose knowledge and advice I value. I started to tell him about the car and he immediately he knew what I was talking about. He said it was a scam because he also answered the ad.
The owner is apparently in St John's NFLD visiting family but the car is in Toronto. She wanted me to take delivery
of it so I could check it out then pay her via E-Bay if I wanted to keep it. Anyway her reply to me was identical to the one she sent Tony, the same story word for word. Tony said that from the pics he saw of the car that it was worth at least $10,000. I also saw that her wording and spelling in her replies was remaniscent of those e-mails from Africa et al wanting help retrieving millions of $$. Check out the ad for yourself. It's Auto Trader .ca Cadillacs.
                                                RONNIE


If none minds I'm going to have some fun with these a$$holes!  mis/chief

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 27, 2012, 09:19:27 AM

 I'd say go for it! They deserve what they get. That will be entertaining.    po.tty

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on June 27, 2012, 09:58:59 AM
I'd want to get this ad down as soon as possible if I had an 85 Eldo. The insurance companies can use this fake ad to de-value other 85 eldo's in the case of an accident. My 85 was valued at $6500 last month based on 2 ads for 86 broughams. They sent me a copy of the valuation, both cars were asking ~$5500-$6000 but had way more km's than mine.

Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on June 27, 2012, 10:00:26 AM
If you do end up having some fun Rene,  make sure to post the developments!   /devil/


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 27, 2012, 10:21:29 AM

 It's just wrong to base value in a car on the asking price of another in an ad. Especially vintage cars.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on June 27, 2012, 10:44:29 AM
Yup,  and that's why I'm trying to get the Caddy onto Agreed Value instead of Stated Value. The problem I'm running into is that companies like Hagarty or Zhers wont let my wife drive, while State Farm wont do it unless the car is used exclusively for shows (90% shows 10% pleasure use). I think I'm gonna go with Zhers for the Wildcat,  but I'm stuck with regular insurance for now on the Caddy.

Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on June 27, 2012, 10:47:58 AM
If you do end up having some fun Rene,  make sure to post the developments!   /devil/

You can be sure of that.....BTW the wheels are already in motion!  <kick>

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 27, 2012, 11:45:17 AM
This will be worth watching to-night

Speed Channel @ 8pm - 8:30

Battle of the Supercars

CADILLAC CTS-V vs Mercedes E63 AMG       any predictions as to the winner ?

Check it out

                             RONNIE


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on June 27, 2012, 11:51:48 AM
Strait line....CTS-V,  slalom & cornering.....E63 AMG

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 27, 2012, 12:38:29 PM
They do everything to test these cars. The drivers are Paul Tracy and Tanner Faust.

I have something here that may be of interest. 2 yearly car shows if you are willing to travel for about an
hour. I do them every year and they are good ones worth going to.

1  Kings and Classics   Rockton Fairgrounds  July 7 & 8 Sat & Sun
                               9 am - 6 pm
                               Saturday is an Elvis compitition
                               HWY 8 toward Hamilton

2  Dutch Mill Country Market    Waterdown Ont.  Sat August 4th
                               9 am - 4:30 pm   BBQ at 11:30
                               Hwy 6 toward Hamilton turn on Millgrove Sideroad
It would be great to see member's car at this one. We could even put up the CISO banner. A lot of Burlington and
area Cadillacs do this one. It could mean more new members. This is also a good one to bring the wife to, It is
family oriented, a really nice show. Their first year had 250 cars show up and it gets bigger every year.

Be sure to check out the websites for both. You won't be sorry.         RONNIE
 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on June 27, 2012, 12:41:39 PM
I can try and convince the wife to make it to the second,  but the first is out for me.
You should make this it's own topic.

Jon


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 27, 2012, 01:08:58 PM
Jon     I took my wife to the first one and she loved it. We had breakfast there and she liked poking thru the
gift and craft shop and getting farm fresh produce. There is a lot to see at the Dutch Mill.
Show your wife the Dutch Mill website. 

                                                  RONNIE


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on June 27, 2012, 01:38:57 PM
If you do end up having some fun Rene,  make sure to post the developments!   /devil/

You can be sure of that.....BTW the wheels are already in motion!  <kick>

Rene

Here is an up date, remember to read from the bottem up.

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Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on June 27, 2012, 01:39:31 PM
Number2

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Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on June 27, 2012, 01:40:11 PM
Number3

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Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on June 27, 2012, 02:14:33 PM
Pure Gold


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on June 27, 2012, 02:23:46 PM
Wait...it should get better. I screw with schemers like this all the time! It's good clean fun!  mis/chief

More......
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Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 27, 2012, 10:36:06 PM

 Oooo this is soo good!

 He's backtracking already.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on June 28, 2012, 08:22:13 AM
 <lol> <lol> <lol>

Bo Diddly? <lol>

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 28, 2012, 08:49:23 AM

 Yeah, I noticed that too.  #smoke#

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on June 28, 2012, 09:01:05 AM
It's my alter ego.  s.h.h.h

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 15, 2012, 08:25:11 AM

 yesterday I decided to go to the wreckers to have a look see at those 2 Eldorados there. There wasn't anything on them that I could have used that was in better shape than I already had. I did see that the seats were missing from the red '81, though.

 But on the way out I ran into the guy that runs A&P Recycling next to the wreckers. He noticed my '90 Brougham and that got us talking. Turns out his mother has a number of old Cadillacs that go as far back as the 50's. He also has some older Cadillacs on sight. I saw a '87 Brougham that he's parting out. I made a deal to purchase the headliner from it.

 So I came home and pulled the headliner from the '90. I'll go there and pull the headliner from the car and put it right into mine. Best way to transport it? No?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on July 15, 2012, 09:15:36 AM
Installing it there is a hell of a lot better than folding it in half and taking it home in the back seat isn't it ?
How is that one holding up anyway Mike ?

                           RONNIE


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 15, 2012, 08:37:50 PM

 It's holding up well. I have it bungied to my garage door right now, but I'm getting a new roll up door on Friday so I'll have to find another spot for it.

 I spent this morning cleaning out that part of the garage. Stu came by and gave me a hand. I took him home and we decided to take the '70 for a spin, but the keys could not be located.

 So I came home and drank some beer.  drink/o/beer

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 16, 2012, 10:29:42 AM
I can see that the headliner on Chester is starting to bubble in places.  If it is anything like my Buick was,  it wont be long until she's completely down.  >:(


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 16, 2012, 12:25:02 PM

 Yep, once they start, not too much you can do about it. The headliner was perfect in the car when I got it, then the year before last a bubble started in the right rear and within a month or so, it was all hanging down.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on July 16, 2012, 02:31:51 PM

I hope you hit it lucky Mike and get a good for your car but don't throw out the old shell. Find someplace safe and
hold onto it.
You have to realize of course that a good headliner from the wreckers is just a old as the one you have now and it could come apart after you put it in the car. The adhesive holding the fabric in place is all dried out and it doesn't
take much to break that bond and have the headliner fabic down around your ears, flapping in the wind as you drive.
A good auto upholstery shop can replace the old fabric on a headliner shell if you can't find a good one at the wreckers. For them to do the whole job the cost is about $300. If you pull it yourself and take it to them to do it's quite a bit cheaper. I've even heard of some guys replacing the fabric themselves. It's time consuming but not a difficult job. It requires patience, a good spray gun for the contact cement and some skill to lay the new fabric over the adheshive without making a mess of it. I've never done it myself but I've seen it done at Gold Star Seat Covers here in Hamilton. They make it look easy of course, because they are pros and have done many of them over the years but it's not out of the realm of a good DIY guy to give it a shot.

                                                 RONNIE


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 16, 2012, 04:47:50 PM

 For $25 I thought I couldn't go wrong. But I`ll have to be really careful removing it. I damaged the old one removing it, they really are flimsey. I don`t see how they can replace the fabric on them without damaging them. All that olsd foam is crumbling and it falls down like a heavy dust.

 Getting it out of the car is a real trick, I found it has to come out through the right front door.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on July 16, 2012, 09:00:23 PM
$25 is a great deal so if anything goes bad on you you're only out of pocket $25 and your labour.
Those shells are fiberglas. They can get brittle after 25-30 years and need careful handling. I think a lot of the crap that falls off is old adhesive that has dried out and tuned to dust. When a pro shop does them the old adhesive is gently scraped off to get a clean surface for the new adhesive and fabric to adhere to.

                               RONNIE


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 20, 2012, 08:39:25 AM

 I had a new garage door installed yesterday, so the Cadillac Garage will be resorted and put back together over the weekend. We'll see what form it takes.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on July 20, 2012, 10:04:52 AM
Did you get an insulated door. They are awesome for keeping in the heat. We had both our doors replaced a few
years ago with insulated ones and I also insulated and drywalled the walls. In the winter, no matter how cold it gets the garage never goes below freezing and it will retain the heat for hours if I use the garage furnace. I love it!!
                                                          RONNIE


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 20, 2012, 10:13:01 AM

 Yes, a proper insulated roll up door. Finally. It will make a huge diferance in the winter for sure. Not just in the garage, but the whole house.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on July 20, 2012, 10:34:31 AM
The money you save on heat now can be put to better use on a Cadillac project, right ?  Whadda you think ?

                                                  RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 20, 2012, 10:57:52 AM

 That would be nice, but it will likely get sucked up somewhere else.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 20, 2012, 04:57:28 PM

 Check oput Zehr Insurance in New Hamburg. It's cheap and no restrictions on mileage. That's who I have all my insurance with.

 Mike

I just got the official $17000 appraisal on the wildcat and got it set up with Zehr Insurance.  Best move I've ever done.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 21, 2012, 08:11:51 AM

 Excellent to hear, and I'm glad you're happy. So far they have been good to me.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on August 17, 2012, 07:40:59 PM
I was hearing a vibration noise from the back,  so I stuck a bit of oil cooler line between the muffler and the heat shield,  that seems to have solved that problem.

Also,  my inside mirror fell off and broke,  so I went the store and put up a replacement one.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 17, 2012, 11:13:51 PM

 You can buy replacement mirrors at the store?

 Gonna get the '70 out tomorrow. Bring her home for the weekend and give her a well deserved wax job. Maybe go for a nice drive too.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on August 18, 2012, 07:44:17 AM
Sweet,   she'll love the new coat.

You can get replacement simple mirrors (no automatic dimming).  But that's all that was in the caddy, (and I'm pretty sure the one that was in it when I got it was a replacement mirror anyway.  Maybe someday I'll search the wreckers for an original since they were the same for pretty much every 80's GM.  But for now I'm happy.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on August 22, 2012, 01:50:48 PM
I just got the new tires for chester installed today. They didn't put the 79 caps on for me since it was taking too long (At first they tried to tell me they didn't fit, not knowing that I had them on the car for the past year). I admit though,  they are a pain in the butt to get on.
I'm going to try and get them on this afternoon if I get the time.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 22, 2012, 10:41:12 PM

 Excellent! New rubber makes the car drive like new.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 09, 2013, 12:20:54 PM
I was coming home from Toronto on Saturday, when I was a bout 4 blocks from home my 94 just died.
 I had to have it towed home and on Sunday my brother came over to help diagnose the problem.
I replaced the optispark, it just crapped out. After close examination I noticed that the vacuum line on the vent had expanded and fallen off. It would seem that it had sucked up some crap and burned out.
I got it all back together yesterday and it's running great now.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 09, 2013, 01:02:02 PM
Good news.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 09, 2013, 10:22:16 PM

 I drove by today and saw that it was back sitting in the usual spot in the driveway. So I assumed all was well. You got the miss sorted out too. Was it a couple of mixed wires?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jessie on May 10, 2013, 11:24:55 AM
Changed leaking fuel hoses today  after being under car i decided to finally start cleaning it up under it


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jessie on May 10, 2013, 11:29:53 AM
After lurking around this forum i got cadillac motivated  i am surprised no holes so far just surface rust so i am cleaning up then coating with por 15  i have eastwood tanktone for the gas tank


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 10, 2013, 11:42:54 AM

 Was it a couple of mixed wires?


Yea I had 2 mixed up. Once I figured out which ones it ran fine.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 10, 2013, 04:11:28 PM
After lurking around this forum i got cadillac motivated  i am surprised no holes so far just surface rust so i am cleaning up then coating with por 15  i have eastwood tanktone for the gas tank

A lot of patience required in that kind of work.
good luck  :dwarf:


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 18, 2013, 08:44:54 AM

 Yesterday I replaced the spark plugs and changed the oil on the '94 Fleetwood.

 Two more things off the list of things to be done. It's running very good right now.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 27, 2013, 03:46:30 PM

 Wednesday I replaced the serpentine belt and wiper blades. And the car ran flawlessly all the way up to Sutton and back. The run seemed to do it some general good. It starts much easier now too.

 Today I changed the oil on the Brougham. And tried to get a handle on the hot start issue. But after driving it all over today it started perfectly every time. I did put a test light on the primer connector to check out power to the pump. Every time it gets the ECM prime and as soon as the engine begins to crank the OPS feeds the pump.

 Dunno. I did pick up a relay when I went to NAPA for the oil filter just in case.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 27, 2013, 05:40:29 PM
Now that you're prepared,  it'll be a good boy until you put your tools away.  nya/nya


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 27, 2013, 05:44:47 PM

 Yeah. But tools all away, tried it several more times and all is well.

 Just went to the Grill for a burger and it started fine there too.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 11, 2013, 09:45:25 PM
Wash, waxed and buffed Chester.
Did the same for the Wildcat.
My arms are completely dead.

I also replaced the transmission case connector on the Wildcat.  When I went to drop the pan,  one of the pan bolts broke.  I put the pan back on without one of the bolts,  I'm hopping it wont leak, but if it does I'll have to deal with it.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 11, 2013, 10:40:01 PM

 I looked outside today at work and thought to myself what a waste of a good day. It was a perfect day to be working on the Cadillac. I see you made very good use of the day. And did you enjoy yet another perfect steak?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 12, 2013, 09:29:36 AM

 And did you enjoy yet another perfect steak?

 Mike
Yup  ;D


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on July 12, 2013, 02:45:58 PM
Wash, waxed and buffed Chester.
Did the same for the Wildcat.
My arms are completely dead.

I also replaced the transmission case connector on the Wildcat.  When I went to drop the pan,  one of the pan bolts broke.  I put the pan back on without one of the bolts,  I'm hopping it wont leak, but if it does I'll have to deal with it.
That's why I don't like to do my own repairs anymore. If I have a problem or mess it up I have to stay with it until
it's fixed but if the mechanic does it then it's his problem.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 12, 2013, 02:47:59 PM
I didn't see any leaks this morning.  whoo/hoo


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 12, 2013, 10:36:14 PM


 Cool! 

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on July 14, 2013, 08:11:45 PM
Pretty pathetic but I moved it so I could mow the lawn underneath it.

Sits in the garage during the fall/winter/spring. Will I ever finish the CDV and drive it again ? WTH knows, try to make a little progress every year. Should have more free time since I'm making the final Cadillac ROTY-A this summer. Burned some serious time and $$$ making many of those. Great for the people that actually appreciated receiving one.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on July 16, 2013, 11:15:19 AM
I went to my mechanic to find out why or where I am losing coolant. RAD LEAK where the tank meets the core. Haven't had one of those in many many years. Hamilton Radiator wants $475.00 to replace it. Their rad cost is
$275 and the rest is labour.
My parts guy got me a new rad for $162+tax, new coolant and Tony's labour is $120. I can live with that.
Tony is going to change it on Thursday.
$300 for that plus the cost of filling the gas tank for Goderich (another $200 there and home again) and Pam
having to work cancels me out for Saturday.  :( :'(

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on July 16, 2013, 02:02:06 PM
What did I do to my Cadillac today? First, starter wouldn't turn over. Traced it back to a poorly mounted clamp on the positive ground at the battery post. Fixed  whoo/hoo.

Then the bottom of my oil bath filter fell off. What an ungodly noise. Luckily other than a few scratches, it appeared there was nothing wrong. There I was in the Fortinos parking lot trying to put it back together with a million degree engine on a million degree day. Got it back together, not too much oil spilled. Then, of course the filter (what looks like coconut husk) got plugged with the oil from the bath. I limped  wheel/chair home keeping the revs down to avoid the ungodly lurching.

Pulled it back off, this time with leather gloves (note to self, leave leather gloves in trunk). Soaked and rinsed in kerosene. Took it for a short drive without the filter and it was fine. Definitely starved for air with the filter on. It's out in the driveway with the filter basking (drying) in the sun. Hmmm, I wonder how long I should wait for the kerosene to evaporate....

I also wiped off all the splashed oil I cold see.

The real question here is how am I going to keep that damn filter from falling off again. It's really tricky to get it tight. The nut on top is bullet shaped... no flats to get a wrench on.  head/ache I'd hate to see it fall into the fan blades!

Joe

EDIT: Definitely not coconut husk. Like a very very coarse steel wool.



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 16, 2013, 02:36:22 PM
I don't know what it looks like, but perhaps some sort of metal strap with a canning jar latch on it?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on July 16, 2013, 02:37:26 PM
Joe, please post pics. I have no idea what your engine bay looks like.

Rene

Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. Really who?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on July 16, 2013, 03:30:55 PM
Here is a picture of the offending filter piece. I used a small sheet of rubber to wrap the bullet bolt and tightened with vice grips. A strap of some sort would work but I am trying as best as possible to keep it original. I *hope* tightening it that way will hold. I will keep an eye on it.

(http://ceretti.com/caddy/AirCleaner.jpg)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on July 16, 2013, 04:34:04 PM
Joe,

Those threads are typically 1/4 - 20.  You can cut that to the length you want and just use a wing nut with a washer underneath.

Deal with the originality aspect later. Then for now you can drive the car.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on July 16, 2013, 05:02:49 PM
^^^I'm with CDV on this^^^ a threaded rod with a washer & wing nut will give you piece of mind.

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on July 16, 2013, 05:27:14 PM
He was told at the CLC forum what he has isn't original anyway - supposed to a have wing nut.

To be continued ............

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 16, 2013, 10:53:06 PM
 
 I agree. Threaded rod is the ticket. Put on a good wing nut and tighten it as desired.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on July 16, 2013, 11:50:23 PM
On the CLC forum they say I am missing an entire bracket under the thing. hmmmm I wish I had a picture of what it should look like. Or even better, I wish I had the correct hardware.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on July 19, 2013, 07:35:59 AM
Even though I supplied all the relevant info for my Eldorado they still screwed up my order and sent us the wrong
rad anyway. Why do they do that ? No trans cooler or engine oil cooler fittings.
There's a good chance I may not have my car for the weekend now.
RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on July 19, 2013, 07:45:44 AM
On the CLC forum they say I am missing an entire bracket under the thing. hmmmm I wish I had a picture of what it should look like. Or even better, I wish I had the correct hardware.

I asked the Johnny to send me a picture of his 38 air filter.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on July 19, 2013, 12:24:09 PM
I washed and vacuumed it.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on July 19, 2013, 01:01:54 PM
On the CLC forum they say I am missing an entire bracket under the thing. hmmmm I wish I had a picture of what it should look like. Or even better, I wish I had the correct hardware.

I asked the Johnny to send me a picture of his 38 air filter.

CDV

Thanks!!!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on July 22, 2013, 06:31:15 PM
Got my Eldorado back to-day. Can't see how or why but it seems to run better now with the new rad and
that terrible annoying rattle under the dash is gone. Might take it on a run to Orangeville tomorrow to see the grandkids. If it rains I'll take the Caliber or the Sebring instead.
RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 22, 2013, 10:41:30 PM

 Like washing it, or changing the oil. They always seem to run better. Seems every time I do a repair or improvement the car runs better, or maybe I just enjoy it more.

 Glad you got that out of the way and done with.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on July 22, 2013, 11:09:17 PM
I put my deal of the century buick steering wheel on my caddy today. It was a bit of a challenge. There was a big collar on the bottom that interfered with the 3 on the tree linkage. GRINDERRRR! hahah it looks great now. Pictures tomorrow.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 24, 2013, 04:20:16 PM

 Maureen was complaining about the idle on the Eldo being too high. So today I figgered I'd have a look see. When I first checked it, it was idling anywhere between 1200 and 950 RPM.

 Could be a lot of things, so I decided to go for a drive and try and get a handle on where to start looking. But after the drive, it settled down to a nice steady 650-700 RPM idle.

 She works within walking distance from here, so the car never even begins to warm. Then all the local driving, nothing more than 15 minutes away, conspired to get the poor old girl confused.

 A couple of good blasts, with some WOT, on the expressway did the trick. Now it's running as sweet as it always has. Just shows ya gotta run them, and run them hard from time to time.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on July 24, 2013, 07:29:02 PM
Yesterday at the shop I recharged the AC on the Buick & she's ice cold now  /brrr/ not like we're going to need it for the next week!  :irked:

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 24, 2013, 07:39:05 PM

 Yeah, cooled right off. And it looks like it's going to stay this way for a little while. Like fixing the hole in the roof, and it won't rain anymore.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on July 24, 2013, 09:25:26 PM
Today the throttle linkage got caught up in the choke linage. WIDE OPEN THROTTLE for about three seconds. Phew, nothing bad happened. Pulled the linkages apart. Bent the choke mounting plate a bit and all is good now.

At the moment I am refinishing the front and back Cadillac name plates I got. They were very badly dented and severely rusted and had been painted grey. One was missing the mounting studs and instead had holes where the old studs used to be. Had a friend weld some new bolts on. Got them bead blasted this afternoon. Refinishing at the moment.

They'll never be show chrome quality but refinished carefully they should look mighty nice. Again, another one of those things that I hope to find in better shape in the future.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on July 24, 2013, 10:54:55 PM
That's the way to do "one piece at a time"

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 25, 2013, 07:11:01 AM
I can't wait to see this car!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on July 25, 2013, 12:41:44 PM
Ok, here's my next project. Not quite done. I have to do some more touch ups, then wet sand and clear coat but out of time for today...

The escutcheons were chrome with black originally. They had some of that still on them but it was under a thick layer of rust and grey paint. On top of that they were BADLY dented, warped and had a bunch of punch marks from what looked like being backed into something. One of them was not only missing the mounting studs but had holes where they used to be. After a whole lot of hammering and bending and fitting and hammering and bending and fitting, repeated for hours I painted them last night and today. Chili Pepper Red Pearl (Chrysler colour) and then a gm bright silver for the lettering. Trying to stick with OEM paints so I can always get touch ups.

Now, hopefully, I get less people asking, "Is that a Packard?"

(http://ceretti.com/caddy/Resized/rps20130725_133352.jpg)

(http://ceretti.com/caddy/Resized/20130725_132157.jpg)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 25, 2013, 01:50:53 PM

 Wow! Very nice Joe!! More eye candy for an already beautiful car!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on July 25, 2013, 02:09:29 PM
Compared to what I saw a week ago those things are awesome now. Super job Joe !


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on July 25, 2013, 02:41:21 PM
What are the escutcheons , Cadillac bumper name plates ? I always thought an escutcheon was a trim ring.

The grille on that car is fabulous ! Somehow it reminded me of the Cord.

Steering wheel looks great too.

Most of the cars from that era without seeing the name plate they all looked basically the same. People are adverse to radical styling and Chrysler got hammered with their airflow design. It had a " frumpy " look to it. Today it looks to me like a 50's European or a French car. LOL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Airflow

Harley Earl and Bill Mitchell managed to style some new trend setting cars that were well accepted. The evolution of styling is a fascinating subject. Aerodynamics finally won the battle for better mpg when gas got expensive.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on July 25, 2013, 03:41:14 PM
A couple of weeks ago I took my Eldorado to Putney Spring and Alignment to get the front end checked out.
For some time now the car tends to wander a bit at highway speeds and I have to constantly keep correcting
the direction the car is going in.
The front end checked out A-OK but they tightened up the steering box to see if that would help. It didn't.
I went back this morning for a re-check and everything was still OK but they said that it's possible that a tie rod
end or other steering component could be siezeing up (there are no grease nipples) and that everything should
be disconnected to check each joint seperately and replace the bad parts. So it's going back next week to have
that done.
But I did wash and clean it at home to-day.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on July 25, 2013, 06:58:46 PM
A couple of weeks ago I took my Eldorado to Putney Spring and Alignment to get the front end checked out.
For some time now the car tends to wander a bit at highway speeds and I have to constantly keep correcting
the direction the car is going in.
The front end checked out A-OK but they tightened up the steering box to see if that would help. It didn't.
I went back this morning for a re-check and everything was still OK but they said that it's possible that a tie rod
end or other steering component could be siezeing up (there are no grease nipples) and that everything should
be disconnected to check each joint seperately and replace the bad parts. So it's going back next week to have
that done.
But I did wash and clean it at home to-day.

Maybe have the add grease nipples? It's a pretty easy task.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on July 25, 2013, 07:39:00 PM
I went back this morning for a re-check and everything was still OK but they said that it's possible that a tie rod end or other steering component could be siezeing up (there are no grease nipples) and that everything should be disconnected to check each joint seperately and replace the bad parts.

What?? Does the shop your using not have a lift. This stuff is basic mechanic 101 to diagnose. You start pulling apart steering & front-end parts too trouble shoot & your alignment will be way out! If your mechanic can't find grease nipples or the nipple ports then you should be looking for another mechanic.

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on July 26, 2013, 09:51:18 AM
I was wrong. There are grease nipples and Tony does them when ever he has my car on the lift. In fact they were done last week when he put in the new rad. That could be why Putney's didn't say anything to me. They saw the fresh grease and left it at that.  However, Tony said that it is still possible that there is a bad joint and he will check it out next week instead of Putney's. Putney's is a spring and alignment specialist and they don't have lifts. Instead they have a giant pit area where the vehicles are driven onto the alingment machines. The cars are then lifted with small bottle type hydraulic lifts. They don't do oil and lube jobs or general repairs.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on July 26, 2013, 10:24:25 AM
Yeah. the escutcheons are the name plates and also trim rings among other things.

A lot of people ask if it is a Packard. I wish it had Cadillac name plates on the sides. I am tempted to put some on but that wouldn't be right.

What are the escutcheons , Cadillac bumper name plates ? I always thought an escutcheon was a trim ring.

The grille on that car is fabulous ! Somehow it reminded me of the Cord.

Steering wheel looks great too.

Most of the cars from that era without seeing the name plate they all looked basically the same. People are adverse to radical styling and Chrysler got hammered with their airflow design. It had a " frumpy " look to it. Today it looks to me like a 50's European or a French car. LOL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Airflow

Harley Earl and Bill Mitchell managed to style some new trend setting cars that were well accepted. The evolution of styling is a fascinating subject. Aerodynamics finally won the battle for better mpg when gas got expensive.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 29, 2013, 05:53:49 PM

 Pitman arms are notorious for wearing on these cars. have a really close look there. But I remember you saying that you have had the replaced? They are a bugger because you have to remove the steering box to replace them.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on July 29, 2013, 06:17:40 PM
It's been seven years since I bought that car from Tony. Neither of us can remember now what it was he was
replacing when I first saw it up on his lift other than it was a steering component. He's going to take everything
apart on Wednesday and check out each joint. I'm hoping he finds the problem.
RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 30, 2013, 04:13:33 PM
 Big wash wax, clean interior operation today. Bloody hell this car was dirty! 3 days of solid rain, gravel paths and roads, folk getting in with mucky shoes.....

 Now Joan is pretty and ready for the ball once again.

 First pic, Friday. Second, Saturday.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 31, 2013, 05:54:22 PM

 Today I wanted to replace that worn out driver's seat cushion in Joan. But, dammit, the rains came again. But I did manage to get the cushion off the parts seat. It came off really easy. They use these cool snap on channels. No tools required. That beats the hell out of messing with hog rings.

 I may even be able to do the swap without removing the seat from the car. It's a bear to remove, as Ronnie can attest to!

 Tomorrow I have made plans with Max to go and get the '85 Eldo. maybe not tomorrow, but it will be stashed safe and sound in the same barn that my '70 Fleetwood is in. Until Rene can get it.

 Right now I'm just sitting here in the garage watching the rain come down again. But enjoying a nice beer.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on July 31, 2013, 06:38:23 PM
Mike;  Save the cover from that driver's seat and give it to me at Doon. I will repair that hole for you.
If you have any seat foam be sure to put some in that spot where the hole is or it will cut through again.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on August 01, 2013, 01:36:32 PM
I installed the water pump I rebuilt a few days ago. More details in the technical section.

 whoo/hoo


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 01, 2013, 03:31:15 PM
Mike;  Save the cover from that driver's seat and give it to me at Doon. I will repair that hole for you.
If you have any seat foam be sure to put some in that spot where the hole is or it will cut through again.

 Will do!. Once I had the other cover off, I see there is a thick foam pad in that area on the side. So maybe they saw that these cushions were susceptible in this area and fortified them a bit.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 01, 2013, 05:50:23 PM
That area of the bottom cushion takes a lot of abuse from plopping oneself down hard into the seat. The
constant flexing or compression of the foam along that outside edge of the cushion causes the foam to
break up and crumble away allowing the springs to eventually poke through the vinyl. If it can be caught
before the damage gets too bad a nice un-noticable repair can be made.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 02, 2013, 09:07:53 AM

 In that spot there is no extra protection. Just the vinyl over the seat frame that holds the switch pod. The corner of the frame wears through. But the one that I'm using has a thick foam pad in that area to hopefully prevent that wear.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 02, 2013, 09:53:57 AM
Just got back from the alignment shop. Tony was too busy to do it.
All the steering joints are A-OK. The only thing they did was to adjust the camber up by 2 degrees.
Made all the difference. Don't have to keep constantly correcting the direction as much anymore, at least in
the city. Will find out tomorrow on the 403 just how much better it is. He said the steering box may have to be replaced with a new one if it gets any worse. That's a big ticket repair I don't want to get into.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 02, 2013, 10:06:41 AM

 He set the Camber up by 2? Or the caster? Caster contributes to road feel, and too much can create wander. But the D-cars ran 5 degrees positive, and hence they used that steering stabiliser. The Eldo doesn't use it.

 Camber is the inward or outward tilt of the wheel as viewed from the front. Positive is where the wheel tilts out.

 Caster is the relationship of the upper and lower ball joint too one another as viewed from the side. If the upper ball joint leads, them that is negative caster. If it trails, that's positive.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 02, 2013, 10:44:24 AM
I've got a memory like a sieve. I just called him and yes, it was the caster not camber. He said it would also handle
a bit better which I did notice.
Now if someone could only do a minor adjustment to make the engine more powerful and give it some oompf.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on August 03, 2013, 02:05:17 AM
I identify caster by relating it to fishing : cast the fishing rod forward.

Camber is side to side tilt looking from the front as Mike said.

Years ago at my garage the front end specialist when discussing my 78 Vette front end he told me he could make it have wicked handling but the tires wouldn't last too long. He understood the front end geometry.

Factory spec's are for general drive-ability and proper tire wear.  That can be a problem finding a suspension garage to even perform that task properly these days. It was even a problem 20 years ago.

Not rocket science but you need the proper equipment. My garage had dealers sending cars over to them for correct wheel alignment.

Always a pleasure to work with professionals that know what they are doing.

CDV





Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 03, 2013, 11:13:48 AM

 Time to do the front brakes on the '94. When I put the wheels on, an inspection showed the left fron linings almost at nothing, and there was a rattle coming from the right side that stopped when I applied the brakes. Plus there was a pulsation that has been there in varying degrees since I got the car.

 I pulled the right wheel off, and the bushings were completely gone in the caliper-hence the rattle. So I put on a new caliper. man you can't overhaul them for what you can buy a reman for-$22.

 The rotors I got from Gareth when he installed the grooved rotors on his. I have them cleaned up at Partsource. But that cost $56! The pads I had in stock. Ceramics by New Tek.

 A big difference! The rattle is gone, no squealing (the rattling knocked the pad loos and allowed for squeal), and the brakes are nice and smooth and powerful.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on August 03, 2013, 12:21:23 PM
Are you using blue RTV on your pads?

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 03, 2013, 01:03:50 PM

 Permatex Disc Brake Quiet. I use it on all brake jobs. Prevents squealing.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on August 03, 2013, 02:05:57 PM
is it a heavy grease or silicone?

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on August 03, 2013, 08:44:26 PM
I took out my home made coolant overflow tank and put in a proper tank I purchased at Performance Improvements. Looks a lot better.

Drove to Kleinburg today to visit friends. A 90 minute drive each way. Travelled some of the way on the 401 and most on secondary roads. Everything went great, the car stayed cool. I burned 1 litre of oil (Expected for three hours of driving) and only drained a tiny bit of coolant into the overflow. Awesome! Thanks Water pump :)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 04, 2013, 07:03:45 AM
is it a heavy grease or silicone?

Rene

 It's like a runny silicone, but it cures into a rubbery consistency.

 CRC also makes it, and it's pretty much the same except for colour.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 05, 2013, 07:39:04 AM

 Yesterday Gareth dropped by and we went out to the barn to push the Eldo inside where it will stay until arrangements can be made for Rene to get the car.

 So we came back here and we decided to get into that seat cushion. We had the seat out in 15 minutes. The trick is having the #50 torx bit to remove the seat belt anchor.

 The seat cushion and cover came off easily (since we again put the seat in the car to move the lower cushion to make the clips more accessible) But once off found the seat frame severely cracked and broken. The parts seat was also broken, but not as severely, so I elected to put the new cushion on the damaged frame and install it into the car. I'll repair the less damaged frame and put that into the car at some point.

 But for now I have a very nicely stuffed cushion to sit on. It really makes a difference, and I didn't realise just how bad the old cushion was damaged. There is no repairing it. The foam on the outside is all but pulverised.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on August 05, 2013, 08:12:06 AM
You need the before pic!

Looking good anyway.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 05, 2013, 11:16:36 AM
I've seen driver's seat frames on relatively new cars completely destroyed by obese people who drop their
entire weight hard into the seat when getting in their cars. It doesn't take long to break the springs and welds.
I worked dealers who have taken a car in on trade then have to go out a buy a new seat to replace a broken one.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 05, 2013, 11:20:29 AM
Last week I drove my car on the 403 and the caster adjustment that Putney's did made all the difference.
No more wandering or excessive steering corrections. I just hope it stays that way.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on August 05, 2013, 11:54:30 AM
Since I was at my brothers helping with his seat, I decided to have a look at my Lumbar support and try to figure out why it wasn't working.
 The air compressor came out real easy. It was under the front of the passenger seat and held in with plastic clips.
 After taking it apart the motor worked perfectly but when put back together it wouldn't spin the wheel with vanes in it that makes the air pressure.
 A couple of pieces of electrical tape between the shroud  assembly raised it enough that it could spin freely.
It works perfectly now. ;D


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 05, 2013, 05:33:56 PM

 A fella just popped in for a visit with this CTS-v. It has a few Lingenfelter mods done too.  hubba/bubba hubba/bubba

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 05, 2013, 06:30:54 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ! hubba/bubba


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 05, 2013, 07:39:40 PM

 13K and the rubber is already burned off..... And is that engine compartment packed! He said the LT1 in my '94 looked really easy to work on.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on August 05, 2013, 08:33:57 PM
I bought some new "toys" for my toys today.  Auto Glym had a tent, and I talked to the guy about the dull roof on my '81.  I'd been brushed off the Meguiers guys at Plunketts with them stating that I obviously hadn't cleaned it well enough  cursin>  Auto Glym guy put some "Bumper & Trim Gel" on a sponge for me, and told me to apply it gently.  WOW - stays wet-looking until wiped off so I'm  :wub: with the product.  FAR cheaper than a new roof.  My roof is in good repair, just dull with age and sun damage.

Also bought the Super Resin Polish and (gulp!) HD wax.  Canadian Tire had all Auto Glym products 25% off.  I did 1/2 the trunk when I got home with these 2 products, and can actually see a difference  {crazy}  Hmm, let's see - 6 cars, only 2 arms, = what, 10 days?

Had a great day at the Pink Slips Car Club Show.  I was in the tent helping with registration and 50/50 draw tickets.  You guys might want to mark August Monday holiday on your calendar for next year.  They gave away ~20 or so trophies and the 50/50 was $600 EACH WAY!  205 reg'd cars and bikes plus club cars (we don't get numbers, or compete) so I'm guessing about 230 or so cars.  Well run show if I do say so myself  angel;

That was my day.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on August 05, 2013, 08:49:40 PM
I wish I could have come. :(


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on August 05, 2013, 09:04:02 PM
I wish I could have come. :(

Me too   :-\

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 06, 2013, 07:47:59 AM
Some of the other members know that I used to repair and recolour vinyl, leather and plastic on used cars etc.
You have to be very careful with what you put on vinyl anything. Almost all of those products are loaded with
silicone and over using them can eventually damage your vinyl. Rub your fingers together after using them and if
your fingers feel slippery then you've used silicone. Vinyl will absorb whatever you put on it and too much dressing
will saturate it and cannot be easily removed with wax and silicone removers.
Over use will render minor vinyl damage difficult or even impossible to repair using traditional vinyl repair materials, because nothing will bond to silicone. Vinyl is supposed to be cleaned with a mildly abrasive cleaner (one meant for cleaning vinyl) and water to rinse and nothing else. I use SEM soap which you can get from any good auto body supply house that sells SEM Products. PBE in London Ont is one. Vinyl dressings should be silicone free. I usually
don't use vinyl dressings on my car but I have a dressing that I got from another vinyl repair guy years ago that I will use occasionally.
I bought 2 cases of small 5 oz bottles that I used a giveaways to my customers. It is silicone free but unfortunately
is no loner made.
If you are stuck on using the other silicone based stuff then use it very sparingly.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on August 06, 2013, 08:39:47 AM
Yeah,  Auto Glym is silicone based.   I was using it upon recommendation from the Canadian Tire "expert" until Ronnie shed light on the truth.  The Meguires stuff that Mike had has really impressed me.  I put it on right before the FWCCI this year and it still looks freshly done.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on August 06, 2013, 09:20:29 AM
 cursin>

So, is the Auto Glym vinyl cleaner safe to use?  I will go clean the roof - better yet, I'll get Bruce to do it as he doesn't need a step stool.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 06, 2013, 10:08:46 AM

Is there an ingredient list on the bottle? Any hint as to silicone content?

 I know silicone is bad. It makes for a nice quick detail, hence it's very popular with quickie detailers and used car lots. Plus a lot of them have petroleum distillates in them that eventually pull the natural oils out of the vinyls and cause irreversible damage in the long run.

 I worked for McGee's in the late 70's in the clean up dept. We'd work for hours trying to get the plastics and vinyls clean, only to see that white residue come back time and time again. With so many gravel roads, it was a real problem. Then Armor All came out, and we thought it the wonder drug. After a cleaning, just wipe it on and everything looked nice and glossy and stayed that way. It was many years later that I found out about the potential damage, and the effect silicone had.

 I don't even recall seeing regular Armor All on the shelf anymore.

 Mike

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on August 06, 2013, 11:38:54 AM
I wrote to Auto Glym to ask is there is silicone in the cleaner.  In the meanwhile, I dry wiped with a micro fibre towel and then used my KD cloth https://www.facebook.com/ClothGals (I highly this product!) and am back to dull and boring.  bleh.

sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on August 06, 2013, 04:07:48 PM
I use 303 Aerospace Protectant. AFAIK it doesn't contain any silicone.

http://www.303products.com/

Can get a deal at Amazon and read the reviews.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004YJQE0S/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=1535523722&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B004HHSGS0&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1R0FZ98A4MGYFJVD5GD4

CDV







Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on August 06, 2013, 04:27:31 PM
I use 303 Aerospace Protectant. AFAIK it doesn't contain any silicone.

http://www.303products.com/

Can get a deal at Amazon and read the reviews.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004YJQE0S/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=1535523722&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B004HHSGS0&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1R0FZ98A4MGYFJVD5GD4

CDV

Thank you.

I went to the website and asked via the "contact us" link if there is any silicone and expressed my concern and reservations about using silicone.

Stay tuned.......

Sam







Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on August 06, 2013, 04:57:04 PM
Most everyone that uses the 303 product is very happy with it. Only sold at specialty vendors not the chain stores. I have to clean my 66 CDV vinyl top and I use this product.

My Napa has Armour All on the shelf, I have a few bottles of that crap to get rid of. Been heavily marketed and they have pedaled huge sales of that crap. Reminds me of STP and Slick 50 oil treatment. Still for sale but the word is out - stay away.

CDV



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on August 06, 2013, 05:04:09 PM
I got a prompt reply

Quote
Hello Sam,

Thank you for contacting Gold Eagle Company.  303® Aerospace Protectant does not contain any harmful silicone oils.  If you have any further questions or comments please do not hesitate to contact us.

Have a great evening,

Tyler Rossdeutcher
CDT/Consumer Specialist
Gold Eagle Company

Hmm, not sure how to read this - are there any kind of helpful silicone oils??   :whacko:

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on August 06, 2013, 05:18:38 PM
I've seen driver's seat frames on relatively new cars completely destroyed by obese people who drop their
entire weight hard into the seat when getting in their cars. It doesn't take long to break the springs and welds.
I worked dealers who have taken a car in on trade then have to go out a buy a new seat to replace a broken one.


Not so much that but the seat backs break. Big people get in the seat and they hit the brake pedal and they brace their back against the seat. Granted they will squish the seating area and destroy that too. GM engineering or UAW quality ?

My 90 G van back in 2009 I sat in it and my back rest just started letting go. Got home and pulled the seat, removed the hog rings and pulled the upholstery. A tube frame design with welded gussets at the bottom curve, one 1/2 was never welded and the tube curve finally just stress cracked clean. Took my mig welder and welded the broken tube and the one 1/2 of the gusset for the first time. DS / PS seat are the same so I swapped them over.

Seat was never abused by big people. I would be looking to beef up a broken seat frame like Mike had with some additional welded braces. My 66 CDV has the S curve springs front to back that have sagged DS and they need to get beefed up or replaced.  Premium Fleetwood has coil springs. Reminds me of the suspension springs , they don't last forever either.

These seats where never engineered to last as long as we own our cars of our vintage.

CDV



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on August 06, 2013, 05:52:14 PM
I've seen driver's seat frames on relatively new cars completely destroyed by obese people who drop their
entire weight hard into the seat when getting in their cars. It doesn't take long to break the springs and welds.
I worked dealers who have taken a car in on trade then have to go out a buy a new seat to replace a broken one.


Not so much that but the seat backs break. Big people get in the seat and they hit the brake pedal and they brace their back against the seat. Granted they will squish the seating area and destroy that too. GM engineering or UAW quality ?

My 90 G van back in 2009 I sat in it and my back rest just started letting go. Got home and pulled the seat, removed the hog rings and pulled the upholstery. A tube frame design with welded gussets at the bottom curve, one 1/2 was never welded and the tube curve finally just stress cracked clean. Took my mig welder and welded the broken tube and the one 1/2 of the gusset for the first time. DS / PS seat are the same so I swapped them over.

Seat was never abused by big people. I would be looking to beef up a broken seat frame like Mike had with some additional welded braces. My 66 CDV has the S curve springs front to back that have sagged DS and they need to get beefed up or replaced.  Premium Fleetwood has coil springs. Reminds me of the suspension springs , they don't last forever either.

These seats where never engineered to last as long as we own our cars of our vintage.

CDV



Coil springs in the seats of my 38 still holding strong  ;)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 06, 2013, 05:58:48 PM
Armor-All is still available but a few years ago they said they had changed the formula for it.
Back in 1989 when I was thinking about buying a vinyl repair franchise my wife and went to the company's
head office in Missouri. The local franchisee took us to see a few of their customers and the work that was
done. I looked at a small red pickup that has just been cleaned up for re-sale. White Armor-All covered everything.
The rubber floor mats, the vinyl seats, the dash and the steering wheel (which is a major no-no).  Never, ever
put that stuff on the steering wheel. The cup holders in the console each had a pool of it at the bottom.
No attempt had been made to wipe off the excess. It was really nasty. I think it was then when I decided never to use that stuff myself unless it was insisted on by a customer.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 06, 2013, 06:08:21 PM
Joe- When your car was built 75 years ago things were built to last and attention to quality was the norm unlike
to-day where attention to the bottom line is the norm. 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on August 06, 2013, 06:28:19 PM
Speaking of seats Johnson Controls manufacturer's seats and auto interiors for likely the Big 3 and the foreign companies here.

A Cadillac or Lincoln seat there is little difference. Years ago GM manufactured all their parts but that was cost ineffective as time went by.

Finally they spun off AC Delco and created Delphi likely to break the UAW costs. UAW only has so much leverage when you declare bankruptcy not that the management didn't escape without golden parachutes but with the foreign manufacturer invasion what can you do ?

Was surprised to see an AC Delco battery in my mom's 2001 Honda Accord and likely many other of the components. A global industry now.

Even Toyota claims their Tundra is more American made that a Silverado.  Whatever domestic vendors can supply the parts to spec. gets the work.

My last fuel pump relay was made in China, I think GM makes many parts there now for China GM or otherwise.

http://www.johnsoncontrols.com/content/us/en/products/automotive_experience.html

CDV




Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 06, 2013, 10:36:34 PM

 The seat that I got from Hamilton is in better shape, but there is still a broken part on the front left corner. Much better than the seat in the car. After driving the car, I feel that I am leaning to the left. The centre of the new cushion is well stuffed, and the left bolster seems to fall away.

 I want to repair the other seat, then re-enforce it where the other is broken. Then I should have a good solid seat.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on August 10, 2013, 05:20:11 AM
Joe- When your car was built 75 years ago things were built to last and attention to quality was the norm unlike
to-day where attention to the bottom line is the norm. 

In reality, my seats have some problems as well. Eventually have to strip them down and repair all springs and re weld the few broken spots on the main supports and then recover. As always, these little problems become more apparent the longer I have the car. More time to study it's eccentricities I suppose.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on August 10, 2013, 10:26:17 PM
Today I did too much work on the car with multiple starts and not enough time to charge the battery. Now it's stuck in the driveway all night while it recharges. Oooops


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on August 10, 2013, 11:13:14 PM

" In reality, my seats have some problems as well. Eventually have to strip them down and repair all springs and re weld the few broken spots on the main supports and then recover. As always, these little problems become more apparent the longer I have the car. More time to study it's eccentricities I suppose. "

No such thing as a seat that lasts forever. The upholstery covering wears out and the foam deteriorates - spring failure aside.

Then you even can have steel frame failure as the new cars always have eventually, sometimes within 5-10 years easily.

Don't make them like they used to, as if they don't know that.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on August 11, 2013, 05:27:06 PM
I determined why it wouldn't start. The plugs were all wired wrong! I am surprised it even ran before. I rewired them correctly and it runs better than it ever has, or should I say, it runs better than it ever has since I got it.

I made a clear diagram of the wiring sequence for these engines. Not sure how many people on this forum currently need this but I am attaching it anyhow for the future.

Joe


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on August 11, 2013, 05:36:15 PM
I determined why it wouldn't start. The plugs were all wired wrong! I am surprised it even ran before. I rewired them correctly and it runs better than it ever has, or should I say, it runs better than it ever has since I got it.

I made a clear diagram of the wiring sequence for these engines. Not sure how many people on this forum currently need this but I am attaching it anyhow for the future.

Joe

Hi Joe

Now that it's running correctly, will we see you at the Georgetown Show?

http://www.downtowngeorgetown.com/events/rock-n-roll-n-classics

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on August 11, 2013, 09:11:43 PM
Hi Joe

Now that it's running correctly, will we see you at the Georgetown Show?

http://www.downtowngeorgetown.com/events/rock-n-roll-n-classics

Sam

Another Friday show!! What's with the Friday shows :( I don't think I can.

:(


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 11, 2013, 09:31:00 PM

 Nice diagram. So how was it wired before? IN a conventional 18436572 order? And how did it get wired that way and still run that smooth?

 This may also explain why gas mileage was so poor.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on August 11, 2013, 09:41:44 PM
It's an evening show......

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 12, 2013, 04:49:14 AM
A Friday show ? That's what I said about the GM Powertrain show. Why Friday ?
It could be that if they had 600 cars show up on a Friday, how many would have come if it were on a Saturday
or Sunday ? 800 or a 1000? It could have been because of space limitations.
The grassy park area there is quite large but it was pretty much full by noon. I got there about 9:15 and there
were a lot of cars already there. I had to park in a bit of a hollow and the ground there was a little soft.
Some of the cars sank an inch or so into the soil. I could feel it when I tried to drive out.
There was a huge, I assume, employee parking lot that was empty but there was no shade and a nice cruise
like that one needs to be on grass in a parklike setting.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 22, 2013, 11:12:57 PM

 Well, I haven't done anything yet, but I may be able to get my '70 Fleetwood out of storage on Saturday. Likely still won't make the show with it, but I'll have it here to be able to do some much needed work on it. I started 2-weeks holidays today.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on September 04, 2013, 01:17:26 PM
I have been experiencing a loss of power with my 94, mostly when it's cold (the first 2 min of driving)
 It would pop ans sometimes backfire through the intake.
 When Kevin was here to help me with my VATTS problem he scanned the computer with his laptop to discover that it was running lean. I cleaned the MAF but with no results, so today I dug out the MAF that was on my 95 Caprice. I took it completely apart and sprayed it with cleaner, reassembled it and put it in the car.
 I went for a quick drive and did two smokey burnouts without any hesitation from the engine.
Looks like my problem is solved. It has been driving me crazy for a long time.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on September 04, 2013, 05:42:23 PM
Excellent!


I mentioned it elsewhere,  but I greased the speedo cable on Chester and the needle has now settle down considerable and I haven't had any problems with the cruise.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 04, 2013, 10:58:59 PM

 Great to hear on both counts.

 I just got back from dropping off Kevin, he brought the '87 Brougham.

 He did some programming on my '94. Set the fuel cut off for 200 MPH and played with shift points and line pressures. The result is the trans is much more responsive to part throttle downshifts, and the upshifts are much firmer. So now when I merge onto the expressway, it gives a much sooner and firmer downshift which results in easier merging without having to floor the pedal.

 Also we messed with the cycling switch to set the AC clutch cut out and adjusted the refrigerant charge to make the AC perform better. But I have to look at the blend door and see if it's going full cold.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on September 05, 2013, 07:07:50 AM
Hey Mike,  do you know what kind of adhesive they use to attach the sensing tube to the evaporator inlet pipe?  Is it just a silicone? 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 05, 2013, 08:07:30 AM

 It looks like a tar self adhesive strip. Not sure where you can buy it these days, but I bet Rudy could put you onto. We used to buy it from our AC parts supplier when I worked in the shop in TO.

 BTW, I have some seats for you ion the back of Victoria. You can pop by sometime to pick them up today if you can break away. Give me a shout...

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on September 05, 2013, 10:36:25 AM
... do you know what kind of adhesive they use to attach the sensing tube to the evaporator inlet pipe? 

The cycling switch capillary tube is attached to the evaporator inlet by 2 small hose clamps.  As for insulation and a reasonably authentic appearance, cork insulating tape from an HVAC store or some strips of uncured butyl rubber (previously used to attach windshields) should do the trick.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on September 05, 2013, 01:53:52 PM


 He did some programming on my '94. Set the fuel cut off for 200 MPH and played with shift points and line pressures. The result is the trans is much more responsive to part throttle downshifts, and the upshifts are much firmer. So now when I merge onto the expressway, it gives a much sooner and firmer downshift which results in easier merging without having to floor the pedal.

 Also we messed with the cycling switch to set the AC clutch cut out and adjusted the refrigerant charge to make the AC perform better. But I have to look at the blend door and see if it's going full cold.


Did he play with the traction control as well? He messed with mine and now I don't have the pedal pushing back at me all the time.

I got the oil changed on the 94 today and fresh fluid in the dif.
 Now I just have to get it E-tested, probably tomorrow. I hope I don't have to go through the headache of going through diagnostics.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 05, 2013, 02:14:57 PM

 No, he didn't do that. We talked about it, though. I guess it would be nice to not have it so aggressive. When I do a 2-1 downshift, it chirps the tires, then the traction control kicks in and dials it way back. he said that he changed the timing dialback from 30 degrees to 20?

 You should get your address changed to Goderich. You can piggyback on my mailbox if you wish. It's easy, you can do it online. Then you don't have to worry about this emissions crap anymore.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on September 05, 2013, 02:28:04 PM

  he said that he changed the timing dialback from 30 degrees to 20?


That sounds right.
 I can actually chirp the tires real good before the traction control come on.
I don't have to bother turning it off when its wet out now.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 05, 2013, 02:30:27 PM

 There is a marked improvement in wet weather traction with these Royal Seals. Before any throttle input would have the traction control kicking in. Jeez, Jon could have easily out run me on a wet day.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 05, 2013, 06:38:22 PM

 No, he didn't do that. We talked about it, though. I guess it would be nice to not have it so aggressive. When I do a 2-1 downshift, it chirps the tires, then the traction control kicks in and dials it way back. he said that he changed the timing dialback from 30 degrees to 20?

 You should get your address changed to Goderich. You can piggyback on my mailbox if you wish. It's easy, you can do it online. Then you don't have to worry about this emissions crap anymore.

 Mike

Chirps the tires, smokey burnouts ?  I wish


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on September 05, 2013, 07:31:22 PM

  Before any throttle input would have the traction control kicking in. Jeez, Jon could have easily out run me on a wet day.
=rofl=  Are talking about Chester? or my bike?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on September 05, 2013, 07:35:28 PM

 It looks like a tar self adhesive strip. Not sure where you can buy it these days, but I bet Rudy could put you onto. We used to buy it from our AC parts supplier when I worked in the shop in TO.

 BTW, I have some seats for you ion the back of Victoria. You can pop by sometime to pick them up today if you can break away. Give me a shout...

 Mike
... do you know what kind of adhesive they use to attach the sensing tube to the evaporator inlet pipe?

The cycling switch capillary tube is attached to the evaporator inlet by 2 small hose clamps.  As for insulation and a reasonably authentic appearance, cork insulating tape from an HVAC store or some strips of uncured butyl rubber (previously used to attach windshields) should do the trick.

Thanks guys for everything!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on September 10, 2013, 01:24:51 PM
I took the 94 in for its E-test yesterday. It passed with flying colours.
 I was worried that it would fail when it was running lean, I'm glad I (Kevin figured it out actually) figured out what the problem was before testing.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 10, 2013, 06:40:20 PM

 Excellent! Good to hear that. Man I'm glad I don't have to go thorough that.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on September 10, 2013, 07:07:11 PM
Took Chester on a good 250km tour of the region for work related stuff and had no problem with the cruise or fluttering needle.   I think I can safely say that problem has been solved.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 10, 2013, 08:04:42 PM

 Good to hear that too!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on September 10, 2013, 10:21:13 PM
Getting up at 4am to go to Mexico. Thought I would post my fun before falling asleep.

Yesterday I was on the QEW moving at 65mph. I heard an ungodly sound and pulled right over. My waterpump/generator belt shredded which led me to find a serious design flaw in 1938 Cadillacs. The wires for horn, headlight, driving lights and the wires I added for turn signals run along the inside of the fender covers. No protection whatsoever. When a fan belt breaks and gets tangled in the fan it becomes a big weed wacker.

My wires on both sides were SHREDDED! AGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Drove home carefully with no water pump. Heat gauge set up top but just below the red line. Let it cool for a few minutes and recrimped all the torn up wires.

At least these old beasts are easy to fix.

The fun part? I noticed on Friday that my belt was starting to look ragged and ordered a replacement and was on my way to pick it up.

Back in a week,

Joe


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 11, 2013, 07:08:39 AM

 Oh nasty!

 Why does that sort of thing happen?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on September 11, 2013, 07:16:55 AM


The fun part? I noticed on Friday that my belt was starting to look ragged and ordered a replacement and was on my way to pick it up.

Back in a week,

Joe

 =rofl=  Did you ever manage to get the belt?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 11, 2013, 08:48:21 AM

 By that sort of thing, I reference this.

 Years ago, the compressor bearing was getting noisy on the '70. I bought a new bearing, and planned to replace it on Friday afternoon at work, being off that afternoon. I asked the foreman for permission, which was denied. So, on the way home, the bearing seized and took out the almost new matched set belts. On this car, the compressor belts also run the P/S. This made the car undriveable, and left me without wheels for most of the weekend. I was driving the car daily then, and Maureen worked Saturdays.

 Another case of seeing the issue, and dealing with it as best as could be done. But ending up in a bad situation anyway. BTW, those belts cost me another $50 over and above. Matched set belts are always more than just buying 2 separately.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on September 11, 2013, 10:51:41 AM
Is that because there are 2 belts driving the same thing and they need to be EXACTLY the same length for them both to be tight?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 11, 2013, 10:57:02 AM

 That's right.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 14, 2013, 05:09:46 PM

 I did the front brakes on Victoria today. The rotors were clearly past their prime. Little metal left, and the cooling fins corroding away, allowing for considerable heat buildup and hot spotting. Now she stops true and smooth. I have to wait until Monday to order the brake cable, so that will be a job for another day.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on September 14, 2013, 05:18:15 PM
Okay wait a minute, which car is Victoria the new one you bought from Kevin ?

You guys have so many Cadillac's it takes me awhile to get up to speed with the nomenclature here.

CDV   ::)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on September 14, 2013, 05:27:33 PM
Holly crap Mike I've never seen disk-face's chromed like that!  *yikes*

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on September 14, 2013, 07:06:38 PM
Any idea if those rotors are original based on the numbers on the hat?  The original units on my aunt's 1983 Delta 88 have the minimum thickness expressed in inches (0.965); I wonder when they switched to "24.5" mm.  Another curiosity is why the outer rotor surface is thinner than the inner (at least on the one in the photo), as one would expect the inner surface to wear faster due to caliper bushing friction (in tandem with the linings, as is often the case).

I wonder when FNC rotors will show up in the aftermarket:  http://sandyblogs.com/techconnect/?p=6


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 14, 2013, 07:34:26 PM

 I didn't look at any numbers. They could have been original. But looking at the condition of the grease, which was good, they have at least been repacked relatively recently. I just had to add more in the hub.

 Maybe I should measure them, but from experience in working with these rotors they are far too worn to be serviceable. Less material means they will heat faster. But they will also cool faster. The severe heat cycles cause warping.

 Look at the material on the new rotors.

 As they are now, they will last at least 3 years before they need servicing again, the amount of miles I put on a car.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 17, 2013, 10:20:46 AM

 On Sunday, I spent a good part of the day just running errands. Of coarse I drove Victoria. She ran very good.

 When I made one stop, I saw the bezel on the left backup light was hanging loose. So when I got home and put everything away, I took it off, managed to get the rusted screw out, and repaired the broken off tab. Then I removed the right tail lamp to investigate the reason for the lamp monitor not working. The cord was still properly attached. But the lower tab to mount the lense was broken off. So I fixed that with JB weld as well. While it was out, I repainted the trim on the lense with chrome paint. Since I did that, I removed the left side and painted it. I also found the mounting tab broken off it, which I also repaired.

 Then that was the end of my efforts, it started to rain.

 Yesterday I went to NAPA and bought an alternator belt, an oil pressure switch, a set of wiper blades and an oil filter. Then I went to the licence office and ended up sitting there for more than an hour. Then I had to go shopping with Maureen, then popped over to see my parents and Gareth. That was the end of that day and nothing done to the car. But at least I have the parts.

 So I'll need a coupe of days to get done what I want to do. I also wanted to wash and wax the car.....

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 17, 2013, 10:22:10 AM
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Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 89 brougham on September 18, 2013, 08:15:12 AM
Kindly tell us more about the "chrome paint".

John D.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 18, 2013, 08:50:01 AM

 It's Duplicolor chrome. Spray paint. I sprayed some into the cap and let it vapour out to thicken it up. Then I used a brush to paint over the trim. It took a couple of coats, but it turned out not too bad.

 You can buy the paint from Canadian Tire.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 18, 2013, 09:42:29 AM
I like to use the paint pens or markers from a hobby shop. Testors and Tamiya make them.
Similar to a Magic Marker these are filled with model paint and have a flat 1/4" wide tip.
I stared using them years ago to simulate the flat black window rubbers etc on model trucks.
When I do the chrome on my car's taillights I prefer the Tamiya chrome silver which says on
permanently and the paint in the tubes doesn't dry out.
I don't know how much they cost now as I haven't bought any for a while. Maybe $4.50 ??

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 18, 2013, 10:20:25 AM

 I had one of those Tamiya pens and found that the paint was not particularly durable. It rubbed off easily. This paint should be considerably more durable. But time will tell.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 89 brougham on September 18, 2013, 01:47:14 PM
Thanks for the info,     :-D


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 18, 2013, 02:50:25 PM
It will off gradually wear no matter what, even when washing the car. I did my tailights 4 years ago when
the car was painted and the silver paint is holding up well. I used the Tamiya silver marker.
Whatever works for you is the way to go.
RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 22, 2013, 10:03:23 AM

 Yesterday I replaced the alternator belt, the oil pressure switch and the wiper blades. I made a small plastic cover for the sentinel photocell so the headlamps are on all the time the key is on and the system is turned on. Easy way for DRL's.

 Then got into the cruise and high beam issues. I found the fuse blown for the cruise control, and replaced that. No matter how many time I get into these fuse boxes, I still curse them for their utterly in accessible location.

 Then while I was under there, I got into the high beams. I got out my '86 manual (which I assumed would be the same for this application, and it is). This is a pretty complex diagram when you factor in the car has Guidematic and Twilight Sentinal. Essentially, the dimmer switch provides a ground path for the high beam demand relay. The dimmer switch is not doing this. Also when you turn on the high beams, that enables the auto dimming. When dimming is required, Gudematic removes the ground path and the headlamps return to low beam. So not providing the input to the Guidematic module, then that function will not work either.

 When you attempt to turn on the high beams, the headlamps will just flash as you pull and release the lever. As I discovered this is a built in feature, it has Flash to Pass. But when the lever is pulled all the way back, it does not latch the ground path for the relay. And thus the high beams will not stay on. So, at this point it looks like the dimmer switch. If I can score a new one locally cheap, I'll just buy it. But if not it would be nice to have a known good switch to test my diagnosis.

 So, I put the dash back together. With the cruise control now turning on, I went for a test drive. When I push the button, the green light on the switch illuminates, but the cruise does not work. When I got back, I checked for vacuum at the transducer, OK. Checked the dump hose and it holds vacuum, OK. So I'll have to get into further diagnosis there.

 So, Maureen took her to work today for the first time. I'm going to kick back, I think I feel a cold coming on. We'll see how she does when Maureen gets home.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on September 22, 2013, 10:12:39 AM
It will off gradually wear no matter what, even when washing the car. I did my tailights 4 years ago when
the car was painted and the silver paint is holding up well. I used the Tamiya silver marker.
Whatever works for you is the way to go.
RON

I pretty much go for the ceramic engine paint anymore in a rattle can, just a better product.

Mostly I use my own paint and my spray guns, more work but economical. A gallon of Zero Rust is $ 45 - equal to  15 or more rattle cans at $ 12.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 22, 2013, 02:31:00 PM
 I popped into Partsource today to check up on a dimmer switch. $15 taxes in, so I ordered one. I'll be able to get back to it Friday.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 22, 2013, 04:24:46 PM

 I scanned the circuits in the manual for your perusal....

 (http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/guidematic/1Guidematic_zps2ce86607.jpg) (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/guidematic/media/1Guidematic_zps2ce86607.jpg.html)

 (http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/guidematic/3Guidematic_zps8e4ed738.jpg) (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/guidematic/media/3Guidematic_zps8e4ed738.jpg.html)

 (http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/guidematic/2Gudematic_zpsd10ef134.jpg) (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/guidematic/media/2Gudematic_zpsd10ef134.jpg.html)

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 23, 2013, 11:11:45 AM
That pesky "Service Soon" lamp is lit up again and stays on even after trying to reset it. This time the computer is showing code 29. The last time it was 17. A royal PIA.
So it's down to Tony's shop this afternoon to get checked out tomorrow.

RON



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on September 23, 2013, 11:28:57 AM
Last time it was 29 too. Check the thread in the Technical section for the diagnostic steps.  Take her for a test drive on the highway and see what happens.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 23, 2013, 11:55:44 AM
I thought it was 17 last time.
I tried to reset it at the Ancaster Fairgrounds yesterday but it wouldn't go out so drove home on the 403
and it stayed on all the way. I tried to reset it again when I got home, same thing, so I left it overnight and
tried again this morning. The light is still on so it's off to the doctor. I'm not going to fool with. I'll let a pro
do it.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 26, 2013, 08:11:08 AM
Tony ran a test on my car this morning and it shows 2 codes.  29 & 30. The idle speed motor and/or the
neutural saftety switch are the possible culprits. I have to check around to see if these are still available
and how much.
RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on September 26, 2013, 08:19:06 AM
That would be for code 30.  It seems to be a completely unrelated code to code 29. hmmmm  I'm just playing devil's advocate here.   but I'm wondering if maybe your starting to get an ECU breakdown.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 27, 2013, 11:22:36 AM
I put the new Idle Air Control motor on this morning. The "Service Soon" light is off and all seems to be OK.
Our local Cadillac dealer wanted $210.00 for the motor but because we were in Niagara Falls NY yesterday
I got one from Advance Auto Parts for $82.00 with tax. Go figure !
 
RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on September 27, 2013, 08:05:32 PM
Excellent.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 28, 2013, 08:13:26 AM

 Awesome deal!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 28, 2013, 08:53:28 AM
It was a deal and it was just by chance we went to NF NY. It was Tony who suggested checking out the
price over there.  I went in to see them but they said they had to order it and to come back in an hour or so.
We went and bought gas, had the Caliber washed and quick detailed, went to the Factory Outlet Mall then
went to get my part.
The dealer here said they had to order it from Texas and it would take about a week. The dealer also told me
that the trans safety switch was on hold because GM was deeming it obsolete and I might not ever get one.
Advance Auto Parts said to come back the next day and they would have the switch. I obviously couldn't
do that but at least I know where to get one if I were to call ahead.
I'm keeping their phone number in my good to know file.

On the way home I stopped at an Auto Zone store to see about the safety switch. They wanted $160 for it
when Advance Auto said it was only $18.00.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 28, 2013, 10:09:48 AM

 The difference in price for these parts between here and the US is simply unacceptable. And the parts houses wonder why their business is down with us folk?

 Often times if you can get a trade discount, you can get 30-40% off. That shows you the mark-up on parts.

 I went to Partsource yesterday to get the dimmer switch. They ordered in the wrong part. Originally, it was $13 for the part. A Standard Motor Products part. That same price as what Rock Auto wanted. I should have known better. They re-ordered it and now it's $33, and that's trade price. Retail is $42! Same part, $13 US and $42 here. How is that justified?

 I told him I should get trade discount anyway since I am a mechanic. He just looked at me all stupid like. Why should we get shafted just because we do our own work at home?

 Anyway, I'm heading over there shortly to pick it up. I'll plug it in and see if my diagnosis is correct.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 28, 2013, 04:42:43 PM

 I got at the dimmer switch today. That did fix the high beams. They now work, which will be a real boon when I go to the cabin in her, most likely at night. Those roads are really dark.

 So I checked the operation of the Guide-Matic. That didn't work. So I had some time and go into that. Since I already checked the on demand and powe relays, I knew they were good. So I wnr after the amplifier, the part that is behind the grill. The connector is located under the air intake in an are prone to lots of crap, and it was pretty corroded, but not deteriorated. I cleaned connector with emery paper and a small screwdriver. I checked the wiring, 9V on the green wire from the sensitivity switch, battery voltage on the yellow wire with the headlamps on, and the ground was good. With the high beams on and the sensitivity set to far on the Guide-Matic, I plugged it in and the headlamps dimmed. So that is working now too. I'll know for sure on a dark road when there is an oncoming car.

 The right low beam fogged up bad over the last few days, so I replaced that too. But the bucket is badly rusted so it will have to be replaced. I'll grab a set at the wreckers at my earliest convenience.

 While I was under the dash, I found a really mickey mouse wiring repair. The twisted wire and tape sort. That wire comes from the vacuum dump switch on the cruise control. So I fixed it proper. So maybe the cruise will work now, I haven't had a chance to try it yet.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on September 28, 2013, 07:50:25 PM
Handy guy to have around, Jay Leno would hire you on the spot.

" While I was under the dash, I found a really mickey mouse wiring repair. The twisted wire and tape sort. "

Like on my 67 429 where the 30 amp fuse belongs on the side of the valve cover in the wiring harness and there was an electrical wire nut instead ?  I swear the mechanic that worked on that ride was Alfred E. Neuman. When I did the brakes front drum brakes I was like WTH ? All assembled wrong , did they actually work at all ? WTH knows.

CDV



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on September 28, 2013, 08:11:05 PM
Handy guy to have around, Jay Leno would hire you on the spot.

" While I was under the dash, I found a really mickey mouse wiring repair. The twisted wire and tape sort. "

Like on my 67 429 where the 30 amp fuse belongs on the side of the valve cover in the wiring harness and there was an electrical wire nut instead ?  I swear the mechanic that worked on that ride was Alfred E. Neuman. When I did the brakes front drum brakes I was like WTH ? All assembled wrong , did they actually work at all ? WTH knows.

CDV



I just sprayed my Whiskey all over my new puter, damn you Porter!

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on September 29, 2013, 10:53:31 AM

 (http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/guidematic/2Gudematic_zpsd10ef134.jpg) (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/guidematic/media/2Gudematic_zpsd10ef134.jpg.html)

 Mike

For comparison, here's a revised schematic on 8A-104-3 of the 1987 D-car manual.



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on September 29, 2013, 11:06:12 AM
Interesting to see the differences.
Mostly the difference is in the chart layout.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on September 29, 2013, 11:11:10 AM
Interesting to see the differences.
Mostly the difference is in the chart layout.

Yes, I think they're functionally the same, but when I saw 'Headlight Dimmer Switch' depicted twice in the '86 diagram, my head started hurting.  :)



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on September 29, 2013, 11:12:19 AM
Yeah,  I don't really know why they did that.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on September 29, 2013, 11:25:35 AM

 The difference in price for these parts between here and the US is simply unacceptable. And the parts houses wonder why their business is down with us folk?

 Often times if you can get a trade discount, you can get 30-40% off. That shows you the mark-up on parts.

 I went to Partsource yesterday to get the dimmer switch. They ordered in the wrong part. Originally, it was $13 for the part. A Standard Motor Products part. That same price as what Rock Auto wanted. I should have known better. They re-ordered it and now it's $33, and that's trade price. Retail is $42! Same part, $13 US and $42 here. How is that justified?

 I told him I should get trade discount anyway since I am a mechanic. He just looked at me all stupid like. Why should we get shafted just because we do our own work at home?

 Anyway, I'm heading over there shortly to pick it up. I'll plug it in and see if my diagnosis is correct.

 Mike

A few days ago, I replaced the waterpump on a 1991 STS.  I purchased the ACDelco replacement for $88 from Collins in Scarborough, which reflects the usual 'Cash Customer' discount ($122 list).  RockAuto's price is around $48 after converting to CAD, but shipping would add $29.  According to an episode of CBC's Market Place, the price gouging starts at the wholesale level.  When asked why Canadian price lists are higher, they said that Canadian consumers are used to paying higher prices from when our dollar was weaker - So the bottom line is they can get away with it!  If I had a larger order and was able to optimize shipping, I'd have made another purchase from RockAuto; the waterpump bearing had just started to get rough and could've lasted another month or so.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on September 29, 2013, 12:21:13 PM
I saw that same episode. It is criminal how we are being charged sometimes 300% more.

Also, I have been wondering. Is it possible to install Guidematic on the last Gen Fleetwood?
 I have it on the 82 and would like it on my 94 but I know it wasn't available.
How different is the headlight wiring between those generations?

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 29, 2013, 04:52:05 PM
We did a highway run to Welland and back to-day to attend our last cruise of the season. My car ran the
best it ever has since I changed that idle speed motor. No more wanting to stall when back to city speeds
and no ocassional backfires through the throttle body. I'm a happy boy.
RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on September 29, 2013, 07:09:53 PM
that's great.   I love the feeling of knowing what you did made all the difference.  The confirmation that a problem is fixed.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 30, 2013, 07:49:43 AM

 A cursory look at the diagram reveals that the wiring is the same. But it is a simpler diagram. The '86 diagram took me some time before I began to understand it.

 However again, I seem to have the same issue. So I'll have to get into it again. I'm not sure what's going on, but as near as I can tell the Guide-Matic amplifier is either getting voltage through the sensitivity switch even when the system is turned off, or it remains activated when it is off.

 When the system is on, that over rides the dimmer switch when it sees any light.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 01, 2013, 07:12:06 PM
I went to Queensway tire in Simcoe today and bought my car a present. Also, I was very worried about my safety. After pulling the tires off I discovered they were worse than I thought. The tire guy who has been there for a long time told me that the tires on my car are NOT reproductions. He was surprised I even made it to the store.

I bought 4 Coker Classic 700R16 tires. I was expecting the change from bias ply to radials to be an improvement. I was not prepared for how much of an improvement! There are so many conflicting opinions on tires on the internet. I know to take it all with a grain of salt. Some people are overly picky and obsessive compulsive. I don't expect perfection. Perfection is unattainable and when you think you have reached it there is a fair certainty that it is an illusion.

But, onto the tires. AMAZING! My car now has straight! With the bias ply tires there really was no straight, only adjustments of the wheel to keep the car in the general direction I intended to go in. Now, it's smooth and straight. More importantly, I don't think I am going to lose a tire at any moment.

I wish I had thought of taking a picture of the cracks in the inside wall of the tire. THOUSANDS OF CRACKS!

To finish. I learned that one of my rims was severely bent. It wobbled right to left at least a half an inch. Kudos to Cadillac for providing a full size spare! I had them take my spare out and swap tires around. I am not too concerned if my spare is wobbly. Kudos to the person who made sure that the spare rim was painted to match the others!

So now I have four beautiful brand new and safe tires on the axles and one very old, but not cracked Dunlop spare on a wobbly wheel in the trunk. I don't think I really need the spare anyway. At least not in the car. If I get a flat I will have a flatbed take me home. I can't change the tire on the side of the road. The car is not really safe to lift without using a floor jack and there is no way I am carrying a floor jack in the trunk all the time.

This car really is fun to drive but damn it is digging into my finances.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 01, 2013, 10:45:34 PM

 Radials really are a huge improvement over bias ply tires.

 I remember back in the 80's when a lot of people were switching over to radials. They drove off on their new radials, and when they cam back for some routine maintenance they always commented on how nicely the car drove. Combine the radials with new shocks and they said it was like a totally different car the improvement was so vast.

 For the life of me I can't understand the reasoning with people that still cling to bias tires for their old cars. Really, the only reason why I can see at all is if it's a show car. But there is no practical reason why. The car rides smoother and quieter, tracks straight and they offer better handling and fuel economy. So what is there to argue?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on October 02, 2013, 06:23:51 AM
I think it's the purists who insist on using the original type bias tires. There are a lot of people who feel that if their
75 year old car has modern radial tires, even if the tires look original, the car has been modified and that doesn't sit well with them.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 02, 2013, 07:47:21 AM

 If you want to show the car, put on the bias ply. If you want to drive it, put on the radials. You can swap them over for each purpose easy enough.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 02, 2013, 07:58:38 AM
I've heard a few people say they prefer the handling of the bias plys.  Since they've had them so long on their 'baby' that they don't want a different feel. I've got brand new radials on Chester and the Wildkitty and I'm happy that it's one less thing to worry about.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 02, 2013, 08:03:09 AM

 Certainly the handling qualities are different between the two. And do we both know of one person that argued toe point in favour of the bias?

 For me, seeing the difference and how dramatic it can be on a particular car, would prefer the radials. hands down.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on October 02, 2013, 08:08:16 AM
Bias ply for car show trophy whores.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 02, 2013, 08:08:52 AM
Yeah,  I think It was Forrest that was complaining bitterly about not being able to get bias plys.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 02, 2013, 08:20:34 AM
Yeah,  I think It was Forrest that was complaining bitterly about not being able to get bias plys.

  -yes-

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 02, 2013, 12:19:57 PM
In my opinion the bias ply tires on my 38 caddy where just simply dangerous. Rolling along fine.. on a narrow road when all of a sudden I would be pulled a foot in whatever direction, quicker than I could respond. It could be that they were very old and the side walls very soft. Now, with the radials, ruts and small cracks in the road are no problem. Cornering is fantastic, in comparison. Braking is straight and true now. When braking hard it woudl pull in whatever direction it wanted to so I couldn't really prepare for it pulling since I wouldn't know until it started happening.

If that's the way bias ply tires were back in the day I think the roads must have been utter chaos!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on October 02, 2013, 12:20:27 PM
Yeah,  I think It was Forrest that was complaining bitterly about not being able to get bias plys.

That's funny, my heart bleeds.

CDV  <lol>


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 02, 2013, 12:34:47 PM
Hey Joe,   did the tire guy give you an estimate as to how old those other tires might have been?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on October 02, 2013, 01:35:35 PM
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=11

http://tiredatecodes.tumblr.com/

http://www.aa1car.com/library/tire_expire.htm

http://www.ehow.com/how_7378342_read-dating-codes-new-tires.html

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 02, 2013, 06:20:22 PM
Good try CDV but the old tires were way too old for anything other than the brand name, size and max pressure markings. No codes of any sort. The tire guy did tell me that they ARE NOT reproductions.

On another note, in technical speak, my fuel pump is cacked. I knew it was going. I switched it out for my spare and found out that the spare was leaking out the vent hole. Put the original back on and today it quit on me. I have a 6 volt electric on order from Performance Improvements. It should be in tomorrow. Thanks to the towing included in my insurance, the tow home cost me zero pennies. I just realized, I forgot to tip the tow driver!! DAMN!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 02, 2013, 06:38:38 PM
Best I can tell, the old tires where from before 1960!!!!!!!!!!!!! No DOT codes means they had to be from before 1960.

Ron, we drive on the highway at 65mph on 50+ year old tires.

I suppose that means they made tires really well back then or we are just very lucky.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 02, 2013, 07:46:44 PM
Everything I've heard from my grandpa is that, in his opinion, tires are the biggest improvement that he seen over his lifetime. When he was driving around in the 40's, you expected the tires to blow within 10k.   On a long road trip,  you just took it as normal that you'd be changing a tire eventually.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 02, 2013, 07:49:50 PM

On another note, in technical speak, my fuel pump is cacked. I knew it was going. I switched it out for my spare and found out that the spare was leaking out the vent hole. Put the original back on and today it quit on me. I have a 6 volt electric on order from Performance Improvements. It should be in tomorrow. Thanks to the towing included in my insurance, the tow home cost me zero pennies. I just realized, I forgot to tip the tow driver!! DAMN!

Is it cracked in such a way that fuel could be leaking into the block?   if so,   change that oil.  That's what happened to me on the Wildcat.  I was having what I though was a coil problem where it would run great at startup,  but then die when it got to temp.  By the time I realized it was the fuel pump, my oil was way over full on the dip stick.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 02, 2013, 08:52:40 PM
I hate to say it,  but I've put Chester away for the winter.  money's tight as I'm finishing up my degree so I decided to save a few bucks and suspend the "on the road" insurance a little early.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on October 02, 2013, 09:28:32 PM
Speaking of tires I've only ever had a blowout with a bias ply tire, never with a steel radial tire no matter how old they were - no older that a bias ply tire.


CDV





Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on October 03, 2013, 04:25:58 AM
Best I can tell, the old tires where from before 1960!!!!!!!!!!!!! No DOT codes means they had to be from before 1960.

Ron, we drive on the highway at 65mph on 50+ year old tires.

I suppose that means they made tires really well back then or we are just very lucky.

It's funny now but those few times we were out in the '38 that very thing was on my mind. I said to myself
" Man, the tires on this thing look about as old as the car and they are still rolling along ? How safe can they
 still be ?"
With the new tires, did you get wide whites again ? Those old cars look their best wearing wide whites.
RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 03, 2013, 07:28:15 AM
Speaking of tires I've only ever had a blowout with a bias ply tire, never with a steel radial tire no matter how old they were - no older that a bias ply tire.


CDV





I've had the belt slip and the tire went out of round so bad that I needed to swap out the spare at the side of the highway,   but technically it wasn't a blowout. 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 03, 2013, 07:48:50 AM

 I experienced a really bizarre blowout that wasn't really a blowout. I was driving my '75 CDV many years ago doing about 80 MPH. I felt a vibration on the back, then bang! I looked out the mirror and saw the left rear tire tread with the skirt blow off. I was in the hammer lane, so I pulled off the side, on the left.

 On examination I saw the complete tread had come off the tire, and the rest of the tire remained intact. I drove the rest of the way home on that tire, getting off and taking back roads, of coarse.

 If anyone remembers, the tires on the back of that car were those Canadian Tire Kevlars. I took the tire back and they replace the 2 rear tire with new. No questions asked.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 03, 2013, 08:17:25 AM
I bought Coker Classic 700R16 wide white radials. 3-1/5 inch width. They look proper to my eyes, on the car. The white isn't quite as wide but still wide enough. The tread isn't quite the same, but sure looks close. (EDIT: They are not 3 1/5 but 3 1/2)

(http://www.cokertire.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/700x700/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/c/o/coker-classic-radial-16-03_1.jpg)

Coker Classic (Above) Firestone 700x16 Bias Ply (Below)

(http://www.classictyrestore.com/405-large/700x16-firestone-4-whitewall.jpg)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 03, 2013, 08:29:23 AM
Those look nice.

But 3 1/5" !?!?  that would be equivalent to an 81 wide tire!!!  I knew they were narrow,  but I had no idea that were that narrow.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 03, 2013, 08:57:45 AM
Oops typo.. 3-1/2 still petty narrow lol


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 03, 2013, 09:01:23 AM
 =rofl= Oh thank goodness,  that make's it 89 wide.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 03, 2013, 09:03:22 AM
lol, with tires like that,  I'd think twice about driving across train tracks at an angle.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on October 03, 2013, 09:20:02 AM
 A 3 1/2" wide whitewall is a decent width. A 3 1/2" tread width would be more likely found on something
from the 20's like a Model T Ford. A tire that skinny would be unable to support a big heavy car like the '38.
It would collapse very quickly.
Did you keep one of those old tires as a souvenir ? It would be a cool peice of wall art for your garage wall.
RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 03, 2013, 09:32:29 AM
If the tires are 7"  (based on the 700x16 tire number) then it would be 178 wide which is closer to what I had thought would be on that car.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 03, 2013, 09:54:34 AM
I'm an idiot. It is 7 inches with a 3 1/2 inch whitewall hahahha



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 03, 2013, 10:01:23 AM
Were the tires hard to get?  did you have to wait a while?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 03, 2013, 10:12:03 AM
Queensway Tire in Simcoe had them in stock. Called at noon. Was out there by 2pm and driving away poorer but happy at 3pm. My driver side front wheel had about a 1/2 inch wobble so they swapped the wheel from my spare. Didn't charge me extra. Not so concerned about my spare having a wobble. It's only there for authenticity. I'll never be changing a tire on the side of the road in this car. It's unsafe to use the jack that came with the car. Only a floor jack is safe and I for sure am not lugging one of those around with me everywhere.

I also had them balance the inside and then re-balance on the outside to get the best drive-ability. It's not how they did it back in the day. They only balanced the inside for looks.

I priced the tires on Coker's site. To order and have them delivered with 4 new tubes was only $40 less than I paid at Queensway and that includes the install. Shipping was the real killer in the equation.

Queensway also had the correct looking repro Firestone bias ply tires in stock. They were $52 a tire cheaper.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 03, 2013, 01:25:21 PM
Nice, very nice! Now we need to see a pic of the car with the new shoes.  -yes-

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on October 03, 2013, 02:30:48 PM
The weather "guess" for the next week is bleak and wet, so today I took the '81 Eldorado out and shook the dust off of her  :cruisin: :cruisin:  Got lots of looks  ;) and saw a couple of other people also stretching the legs of their classics.

Enjoy the day!!
Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 03, 2013, 03:23:58 PM
Ran into a guy today who was taking is 64 Polara 440 for a ride to get it undercoated.   I guess as the season closes, people need to get the last few rides in.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 03, 2013, 03:33:21 PM

 Beauty day! I wish I had the '70 to go for a nice long tour. Bummer.

 But did errands in Victoria today. She's a tramp, so many stop in their tracks to look at her. Popped into Forbes and got a couple of new ignition keys and said hi to the folks there.

 Did some more stuff, a bit of shopping....

 I picked up a jug of Rotella T to change the oil. I'll hopefully get at that next week.

 I had another crack at the high beams. Looks like the Guidematic amplifier may be bad, and possibly the sensitivity control too (it shows 0.7V when turned off). I have each in stock, so I'll have to make a trip to storage to have a look see for them. So for now I have the connector apart and the high beams work fine.

 And I had another look at the right rear lamp monitor. I checked the end in the car and it's good. I traced the fibre to make sure it wasn't broken. Then I had another look at the end that fits in the tail lamp. It looked dirty, so I filed the end a bit, and presto! It works fine now too.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 03, 2013, 04:39:24 PM
Put in the new electric fuel pump and inline filter today and the Caddy is working again!

I used these...

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/crt-p4259 (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/crt-p4259)

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rus-645120 (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rus-645120)

Ordered them from performance Improvements yesterday. Got them today for less than what Summit is charging!

WOO HOO. I am happy. It runs nearly silent. Noise was one of the concerns I had about an electric pump, mainly from some of the negative comments I have read.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on October 03, 2013, 05:25:23 PM
An expensive electric fuel pump , due to the 6 volt feature ?

You already had an electric fuel pump on the car ?

That's about the best upgrade you can do on the old cars. New cars everything is going electric : fans, power steering you name it.
Maybe even the water pumps by now, seem to recall that too on the new cars perhaps ? Electric components are just more efficient and reliable.

CDv



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 03, 2013, 06:43:58 PM
The fuel pump on it originally was mechanical. I am going to get it rebuilt and then just keep the electric as a backup and for hot starting. There are much cheaper electric 6 volt pumps but they are noisy.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 03, 2013, 09:00:22 PM
If you end up using the electric fuel pump full time,  you should look into installing an oil pressure cutoff switch or inertia cutoff switch. All stock electric fuel pump system have some means of disabling the fuel pump in the case of an accident.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 04, 2013, 04:25:27 PM
I know I should install a oil pressure safety switch. Just not sure where to install it. Want to come do it for me?  ;D

I am sending my mechanical fuel pump to a restoration company in Milton. When it comes back the electric pump will be changed to a backup and hot start pump. Carter states that when off the mechanical pump should be able to pull the fuel through it. When starting in the morning and trying to start on hot starts I can give the mechanical pump a little boost.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on October 04, 2013, 05:42:32 PM
Right, don't want to use an electric fuel pump ( with an on/off switch )  without an oil pressure switch unless you only use it to prime the engine after it has sat for weeks and still using the mechanical fuel pump.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 04, 2013, 07:11:07 PM
Right, don't want to use an electric fuel pump ( with an on/off switch )  without an oil pressure switch unless you only use it to prime the engine after it has sat for weeks and still using the mechanical fuel pump.

CDV

On this car the electric is actually needed every morning. It's a vacuum pump system, as opposed to a pressure system on modern cars, and hard on the starter and battery cranking it enough to get the fuel flowing again. I think I will ask the folks on the CLC forum where to install a pressure switch. I am sure some of them must have done it on a 346.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 04, 2013, 09:38:00 PM
The inertia switches are options as well if you can find a port for the pressure switch.  That's what Ford uses.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 05, 2013, 01:43:42 AM
I think I need to use a combination of both. Inertia in case of an accident and an oil pressure in case of stall.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on October 05, 2013, 05:50:41 AM
Joe,

Holley has the schematic for the proper installation.

http://www.holley.com/data/Products/Technical/199R7914-3rev5.pdf

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 05, 2013, 11:09:19 PM
 One or the other. You just don't want the fuel to be pumped with a dead engine. GM uses the oil pressure method. That should be easy to wire up.

 Sorry I can't read the Holley thing. Too small. I'd need to print it out.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on October 06, 2013, 12:02:51 AM
What the Holley thing is too small to read ? Must be a Canadian internet thing.

Anyway you don't want to dick around without the proper setup for an electric fuel pump.

Some use one for priming only with an on/off switch after the engine/carb has been sitting for weeks. I have to shoot some gas into my 66 429 Carter carb a few times before it will run because the gas drains down ( fires up and stalls after a few seconds ) , sits for weeks on end. Touch the key an hour later or the next day or week and it fires right up.

Myself I would set it for full time use properly if you don't want to use the mechanical fuel pump full time. Some dangerous parameters otherwise. If that pump runs and the engine stalled out Katy bar the door, burn that car down to the ground.

All depends on what you want. Let them sit for months plan on priming the carb with gas because they leak down and go bone dry, kill the battery before you ever get the engine running.

CDV



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 06, 2013, 07:57:02 AM
I made this.

(http://ceretti.com/caddy/manuals/Fuel.Pump.Schematic.Rev.0.jpg)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 06, 2013, 08:23:16 AM
So does that mean that the relay is set up in such a way that BOTH the inertia switch feed, AND the oil press/start switch feed have to be present in for the primary circuit to close?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 06, 2013, 08:25:23 AM
 Cool. OK I see how it works. The diagram is very simplified.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 06, 2013, 08:44:49 AM
There are two circuits that can activate the fuel pump.

 1) is the Ignition switch and it stays on when the key is on run. It only actually energizes the fuel pump if there is oil pressure present.

 2) is the Start Switch which is momentary only while pressed and will start delivering fuel while trying to crank the engine over.

 As soon as the engine starts and you release the start switch the fuel pump stays energized because the oil pressure is now present.

If the engine stalls oil pressure is lost and the ignition switch circuit is now open.

In an accident the inertia switch will be tripped and will fully disconnect the power to the relay effectively disconnecting the fuel pump until the inertia switch is manually reset.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 06, 2013, 08:50:17 AM
This diagram is actually missing one other safety feature. A temperature sensor on the fuel pump shutting it down in case of an overheat of the pump. I don't think I will even attempt that.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 06, 2013, 09:07:41 AM

 Just thinking here too. Should the inertia and oil pressure switch be in series? That way if either is turned off, or in the open position, the fuel pump is shut off.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 06, 2013, 09:08:13 AM
It looks to me like the secondary circuit of the relay is supplied by either the inertia switch circuit, OR the oil pressure/start switch circuit. Which then go to the positive ground in the relay activating the primary circuit.   If that were the case,  then the fuel pump would be energized 24/7/365.  I would think the inertia switch should be located in the circuit directly above it in the diagram between the 6V relay and the branch in the circuit that leads to the oil pressure switch and start switch respectively.

But then back to the first question,  if the relay requires both input feeds to the secondary circuit before the primary closes,  then the diagram makes sense.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 06, 2013, 09:11:27 AM

 Just thinking here too. Should the inertia and oil pressure switch be in series? That way if either is turned off, or in the open position, the fuel pump is shut off.

 Mike

With the inertia switch in the main line it shuts off both ignition and starter switches when activated. Imagine an accident and you are unconscious and part of your body is pressing in on the start button (remember these old caddies have a start button) or something is jamming the rotary start switch on a newer car keeping it on. The inertia switch must be able to totally disconnect the power to the pump.

The oil pressure switch can only be in line with the ignition. If it was in the start button you could never start the car.  


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 06, 2013, 09:22:43 AM

 So, the start switch and the oil pressure switch are inline to the primary circuit to the relay, and the inertia switch on the secondary?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 06, 2013, 10:15:46 AM
That would make sense,  but are the switches capable of handling the power demand of the fuel pump?   If that is the setup,  I don't see why it would be necessary to have the relay,   why not just replace the relay with the inertia switch?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 06, 2013, 08:52:51 PM
Even if the switches were originally capable of handling that much current I wouldn't want to stress them any more than I had to. They are very difficult to find, and expensive, and I am sure they can't handle the same amount of current after this many years.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 06, 2013, 08:54:20 PM
That would make sense,  but are the switches capable of handling the power demand of the fuel pump?   If that is the setup,  I don't see why it would be necessary to have the relay,   why not just replace the relay with the inertia switch?

Primary, secondary? I am not sure... The diagram shows  ;D

(http://ceretti.com/caddy/Manuals/Fuel.Pump.Schematic.Rev.2.jpg)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 07, 2013, 06:16:39 AM
The way I've always under stood relays: primary refers to the circuit with high load that is too much for the switch. secondary refers too the triggering circuit that is activated by the switch.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 07, 2013, 06:18:50 AM
The start and ignition are on the secondary and inertia switch is on the primary :)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 07, 2013, 07:25:41 AM
The way I've always under stood relays: primary refers to the circuit with high load that is too much for the switch. secondary refers too the triggering circuit that is activated by the switch.

 It's the other way around.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 07, 2013, 07:40:45 AM
Interesting,  I just tried to google it,  but I came up with nothing. 
So the primary is the trigger circuit?  -scratch/   I wonder why I had that backwards.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 07, 2013, 08:24:46 AM

 Yeah, the way I've always worked with them. Perhaps the name "Primary" is suggestive of "Main" so you'd think of it as the load bearing circuit.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on October 07, 2013, 08:42:49 AM
Ain't electronics fun ? It's probably the most difficult thing to troubleshoot on cars.
You guys know what you're doing but it's still giving you trouble. One little mistake
and you could fry the entire electrical system and possibly the whole car.
For me looking at a wiring diagram is one thing and easy enough to follow but actually
getting into the mess of wires is something else. The main reason I don't do my own
repairs anymore.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 07, 2013, 09:42:52 AM

 Before the advent of the microprocessor, integrated circuits and circuit boards in cars, working with electrical systems was very easy. I like to look and see what's going on. That's impossible with all these modules. All you can do is check the inputs and outputs and the wiring and hope your diagnosis is spot on. If you diagnose that a mega-dollar module is kaput, you had better hope that once you spend the kid's college fund to replace it, you're correct.

 Having a known good part to plug in and confirm your diagnosis is often a Godsend, but that is not possible most of the time.

 As for relays, I was taught in electrical class, through trade school and any other electrical coarse I took, the primary circuit is the switching circuit, the secondary the load bearing circuit. And relays can get more complex from there. You have timer relays, latching relays, compound relays, relays with diodes on the primary and so on.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 07, 2013, 10:24:14 AM
I love how simple the old Cadillac is. Even though, with their rudimentary systems, some parts of it are ingenious. If there is a problem I can typically troubleshoot it in about five minutes and have it fixed in 10.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 07, 2013, 10:32:47 AM
Yeah,  the electronics on the Wildkitty are super simple.  The only problem I have is I can't find where in world my power window relay is.   I know it's there and that the secondary circuit is shorted to the primary circuit holding it on and feeding the ignition switch when the fuse is in place,   but I can't figure out where it is.   I'm going to have to pull all the wires out and trace them.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 07, 2013, 10:47:50 AM

 Usually, they are located under the left side of the dash. It's a silver rectangular box about 1"x3".

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 07, 2013, 10:51:55 AM
Yup,   and I've found all the other relays under there.  All except the power window relay.   I had someone tell me it could be under the driver's seat.   But that was a goose chase.   
I thought I checked everything under the hood,  but I'm going to recheck that at some point.  I've ripped into the door thinking it might be there but  .no.

 tracing the wires is the last option -uh-


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 07, 2013, 10:56:00 AM

 All the GM PW relays of that era I have seen will not stand up to weather, so it will be in the car somewhere.

 Do you have a shop manual? That should offer up some clues. I know they weren't big on locations then, but maybe there is something.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 07, 2013, 11:10:53 AM
Yeah,  I've got the FSM.  It gives great wiring information,  but not the exact locations.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 07, 2013, 11:12:23 AM
I even went down to your ol' buddies at Forbes,   they could show me a picture of the relay,  but not tell me where it was.
On a 68 Riviera,  it's behind the radio.  But not on the Wildcat.....


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 07, 2013, 11:14:12 AM

 The Riv is an E-body car, so it will be different.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 07, 2013, 08:20:12 PM
I just did a bunch of internet searching and I found a recent forum discussion that states the 68 Electra has the power window relay behind the driver's side kick panel.  A couple people confirmed this.  So I went outside hopeful. :dwarf: But all I found was a stubborn kick panel that didn't want to be removed and just enough visual of the area to make me fairly certain there's nothing back there. 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 07, 2013, 09:05:09 PM
Maybe a wire tracer would help?

EDIT: I see when I read back that the wire tracer is the last option :)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 09, 2013, 05:56:25 PM

 I got at the headlamps again today. I replaced the Guide-Matic amplifier. Upon removal, I found the photocell full of water. Yep, that's fubarred for sure! Put it in and repaired the connector. It worked sporadically.

 BTW, the amplifier came from an '81 SDV I stripped 20 years ago. I checked it then and it worked. But it's physically different, even though the connector and wiring is the same.

 So, I got at the wipers. There is no pulse. So I plugged in another switch, and the same thing. So a bit of playing around, I found the bottom bolt on the wiper motor broken off. that will be a fun fix, but when I plugged in the old switch again, I had pulse, but the wipers will park, then come up and do the sweep and park again. Certainly an odd problem that I've never seen before. I have always said that 80's GM wipers are powered by black magic. I'm even more convinced now.

 So, while I had the wiper switch out I soaked the headlamp switch with contact cleaner. Everything works as it should now. I hope it stays that way. I finally have reliable high beams!

 But, the right high beam went out the other day. And the left low beam is full of condensation. So I figgered I'd pop into Crappy Tire and grab a couple of lamps. They didn't have the high beam. A search by the kid (he had to ask the year make and model) located a $30 high beam. Nope, I'm not paying that!! So off to Partscource. Same thing!! Bloody hell, all's I want is a headlamp!

 I ended up at NAPA on Courtland. they had a dozen of them on the shelf. So I grabbed what I needed and they even gave me my ROW discount without asking! I was wearing a work t-shirt and he just did it. So I got both lights for $18!

 I would suggest that all you folk that have cars with these lamps go out and grab a couple to have handy. Not an easy go get anymore.

 I came home and replaced the headlmaps and voilà!

 I want to take the car to the cabin this weekend, so I need good operational high beams. I have them now. Cool!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on October 09, 2013, 06:18:43 PM
The thing I like about the old sealed beam headlamps is they last a lot longer than the bulbs they use today.
On both of those Hyundai Elantras I owned between 2001 and this year the bulbs were good for maybe 2
years before they burned out. If I just changed one the other would go not long after so I got into the habit
of replacing both at the same time. Also the sealed beam units are still a lot cheaper than the new type bulbs
and they are much easier to change. The cars today almost have to be taken apart to replace a bulb and on
some cars you have to replace the entire lamp assembly.

RONNIE


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on October 09, 2013, 06:30:01 PM
This is what you seriously need to do to change a headlight bulb on the 2013 GM Coblat.

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 09, 2013, 06:30:26 PM
 I have heard horror stories about headlamp replacement costing over $1,000 on some of these new cars. That's just plain ridiculous.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 09, 2013, 06:31:27 PM
This is what you seriously need to do to change a headlight bulb on the 2013 GM Coblat.

Rene

 Yeah, what did I just say?  <doh!>

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 09, 2013, 06:32:21 PM
When it comes to that wiper pulse problem.  Try taking off the motor cover and wiggling the pulse board.  I was having similar problems on Chester last year and it turned out that the pulse board was getting bad connections.   I replaced the whole unit.  The part store people couldn't find anything listed for Cadillac,  but chevy Caprice had tons of options,  all of which are the identical unit to the caddy!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on October 09, 2013, 06:33:13 PM
Worse for a modern Jag.

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 09, 2013, 06:37:20 PM
I think when it comes to modern light system,  the design of the car makes all the difference (front end vibrations, protection from the elements, etc...) on the life span of the bulbs.  My 89 buick at the new style bulbs and I never had to replace a single one for the 8 years I had the car.  But 92 skylark ate them like candy,  and I only had the car for 7 months!  The truck had it's first bulb go last weekend after 3 years of ownership,  but I don't know how old the bulb was when I got the truck.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 09, 2013, 07:23:12 PM

 Right now I'm not going to mess with it. It's working.

 I've gotten into these things and have spent hours trying to figure them out. I have a good manual that covers a lot of the problems the shop manual doesn't.

 And yes, these motors are the same across the entire GM line-up.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on October 10, 2013, 10:32:03 AM
So, I got at the wipers. There is no pulse. So I plugged in another switch, and the same thing. So a bit of playing around, I found the bottom bolt on the wiper motor broken off. that will be a fun fix, but when I plugged in the old switch again, I had pulse, but the wipers will park, then come up and do the sweep and park again. Certainly an odd problem that I've never seen before. I have always said that 80's GM wipers are powered by black magic. I'm even more convinced now.

I believe that wiper motor assembly is an aftermarket unit, with an integrated electric washer pump (that loses prime easily and needs a booster pump near the reservoir to function adequately).  I'm not certain of the circuit weaknesses of this particular design, but the only problems I've encountered with the GM unit were all related to poor electrical contacts (esp. the main ground) and a corroded trace on the delay board.  If the problem goes away after engine heat has had a chance dry it out, there's a chance that condensation is a factor.

But, the right high beam went out the other day. And the left low beam is full of condensation. So I figgered I'd pop into Crappy Tire and grab a couple of lamps. They didn't have the high beam. A search by the kid (he had to ask the year make and model) located a $30 high beam. Nope, I'm not paying that!! So off to Partscource. Same thing!! Bloody hell, all's I want is a headlamp!

Incandescent lamp quality has been in decline for a number of years now.  I recall replacing one of those high-output low beam Sylvanias due to moisture accumulation.  It managed to dry itself out after sitting for a few weeks indoors, and I could find no obvious point of intrusion; I suspect that making them squeaky clean and applying some sealant around the terminals might take care of the issue.
 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 10, 2013, 10:47:47 AM

 Yes, bad contacts and corrosion are certainly factors with these. I have fixed many just by cleaning things up. I tried running another ground from the motor to the battery, just a temporary jumper wire, and it made no difference. But they work satisfactorily for now, and I'm going to leave well enough alone until I can get in there and spend more time.

 One of the parts guys suggested I go to the wreckers for a used lamp. Certainly laughable! But then I mused, if I could find a set of good Guide halogens, they would last forever.

 It seems everything you get through the aftermarket these days is inferior to even the cheap stuff we bought 10 years ago. lamps and V-belts seem to be on the top of that list.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on October 10, 2013, 01:30:04 PM
I know too well about the wiper motors being powered by black magic.
 I replaced the wiper motor on the 82 and I still haven't got it to work properly.
It always works great, except when it rains. It also just stops for no reason and I have to wiggle the arm to get it going again.
 It also parks before it wipes when on pulse. I wish someone would redesign the entire unit so we could have reliable wipers in our 80's Caddy's.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 10, 2013, 04:00:08 PM
I wrapped my crossover with fiberglass matting. To stop the fuel from boiling in the carburetor. Not so smart to put a major heat source right next to the carburetor. Now when the car is at it's hottest I can actually touch the matting without getting burned.

If it wasn't so dangerous and illegal to use the old school asbestos the car used to have I would have preferred that.

On a sad note they sealed my driveway today so i can't drive the old girl until tomorrow. She's trapped in the garage.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 10, 2013, 07:27:24 PM
Hmm,  interesting, I've never seen a crossover pipe go OVER the engine. For the under engine ones that I've seen,  there is usually an external metal sleeve that the pipe runs in to act as a heat shield.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 10, 2013, 10:40:30 PM

 That was common on the v-style flatheads. Both the intake and the exhaust valves are lined up in the block on the inside of the V, so the manifolds have to be configured accordingly. The exhaust manifolds are on the inside too, so the most expedient method of joining them is over the top.

 Normally they were either covered in an asbestos wrap or porcelain to keep the heat at bay. The porcelain flaked off, and the wrap would deteriorate and fall off. Then the components would be subjected to the full heat of the exhaust.

 HF in his ultimate wisdom (or lack thereof) in his quest to keep the engine bay tidy decided to route the exhaust ports through the block of the new V-8 for 1932. That created the Achilles heel of the engine. The exhaust passing through the block would super heat it and these engines were always prone to overheating, and that is the reason why they had 2 water pumps. Originally one was used, and HF even toyed with a thermo siphon system that was used in the Model T! But it soon became apparent that the single pump was insufficient.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 11, 2013, 05:25:35 AM
Yes, the porcelain is mostly gone from my headers. Eventual recoat or replacement is in order. It's way down on the list. The wrap will take care of the problem until I can replace/restore all the things further up on the list.

New exhaust Wednesday. It will be nice to remove the incorrectly placed/sized muffler that is rubbing on the frame and the parking brake cable. On close inspection it is apparent that whomever did this exhaust was a hack and used whatever they had laying around. It's the worst thing done to the car next to the hand twisted wiring connections I found in a few places.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 11, 2013, 07:49:01 PM
I have a lot going on with my car and it's only going to accelerate so it can be ready for spring.

I am getting a new exhaust Wednesday.

My fuel pump is at A&W Enterprises in Milton being restored to better than new condition.

My generator is at AF&B here in Hamilton being restored to as new.

The water pump I already did but it is still bare metal and needs to be painted.

Today I drained the oil from my engine and replaced it with ATF. The oil lines and hydraulic lifters are clogged. Because of the clogs I am getting back pressure pushing lots of oil back out the oil filler, which doubles as a crankcase air input on these engines. When oil comes back out, it's a clear sign of clogs. I unplugged the high speed crankcase ventilation opening in the intake muffler to try and help but it didn't.

The ATF in the crankcase will do one thing or another. First, and I hope this is what happens, it will loosen up all the crud and I will know this when the air intake on the oil filler tube stops vomiting oil all over my wiring. OR, alternately the ATF will speed up the wear the engine already has. Either way I am fine with. I need to determine what is really going on and need to do it soon. Once I know, and we pull the heads off I will then, hopefully, know whether a ring job is all that's needed or something further.

I think, from what I hear, there is a loose bearing on the camshaft. I'd prefer to only do the rings but will do what has to be done to get this engine running as close to perfectly as possible.

All the seals need replacing, I think. Not sure yet.

Oil pan will be pulled off and all the crud deposited in it removed.

When I drained the oil and replaced with ATF I was only able to add 5 quarts. The engine holds 7 so... lots of crud. HOWEVER when I got the car the oil filler tube wasn't the right one. I knew because the bolt that holds it in place didn't fit. I had to grind a bit of the mounting tab to make it fit. This makes me wonder if the oil level marks on the dipstick (sword) are at the correct positions for this engine. I suppose I will know if it is correct once I clean the crud from the pan. If it takes 7 quarts and shows 7 on the sword then I will be happy.

I have the correct wire wrap from the era so I can replace all the rest of the wiring. I found the correct GM wire connectors from the 30's so the wiring should be good.

My car has a 5 terminal voltage regulator/cut off relay. I learned that it was used for a very short time. I have a NOS 3 terminal that GM switched to for whatever reason. I will switch it for the 3 terminal, I think.

I found that a good friend has a garage with a lift! Room for my car so I can do all the body work. It does NOT need a body off rotisserie restoration, I think. There is zero rust underneath. The problem with this is the wood sills are in very good condition except the wood that sits underneath the drivers side rocker is pretty much fubared. I am not 100% sure I can replace this without pulling the body off. Either way. The body is NOT coming off this winter.

The exterior. I am going to sand and lead the areas that need leading. Then repaint.

Chrome... I don't really know. It's a high dollar item and might have to wait for next winter. Still undecided. I don't want to start anything that I can't finish in one winter season.

Nothing is certain until it actually happens I suppose.

Well, ok, one thing is certain. This is NOT going to be a stalled project that sits in pieces in a garage for twenty years. I will be driving around this spring.

Please excuse and typos in this message. Not much time and felt like giving an update. I am sure there are a pile of things I missed.


EDIT: I forgot that I have to still find a working thermostat for the rad from the spare motor I have. I need (want) to swap it over this winter and have the shutters working. I wonder where I will find some anti-rattle springs for it.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on October 11, 2013, 07:51:12 PM
Another post. I have all the parts needed to get my spare flathead running to see how it runs.. if it runs. Anyone interested in attending this session?

It's sitting on a cart in my friends back yard.



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 12, 2013, 07:09:00 AM
Wow,  that's quite the restoration you've got planned. I look forward to watching the progress.
I don't get much opportunities to work on my cars in the winter.  The Wildcat will be off in storage and it's just too cold to work on Chester outside.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 12, 2013, 09:31:51 AM
Hey GJ,  I checked out what is on the body fuse in my 85 FSM.  It says:
all interior entry lights/reading lights
power locks
Level ride switch
level ride compressor
cigarette lighters
memory switch (maybe for seat?  mine doesn't have it)
gear selector switch (?? anyone know what that is?)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on October 12, 2013, 10:45:54 AM
That one is going to be difficult to giggure out.
 Power locks work perfectly, all interior lights go out when door is closed however sometimes they stay on for 30 seconds sometimes they go out right away.
Level ride doesn't work any more, perhaps a short in the wiring as was the case with my 94.
No memory switches and I'm not sure about the gear selector switch either.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 12, 2013, 01:31:18 PM
Yeah,  I'm thinking the level ride might be something worth looking in to.  I'd start by disconnecting the level sensor to see if that stops the drain.  We can look into it the next time I'm around and we've got the motivation.

Hey Mike,   do you have one of the those short finders that you can use to test where along the body there is current passing to tell you where in the body the short is? My 85 manual mentions them as being the best way to find a short.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 14, 2013, 02:08:33 PM

 Some definition here.

 A short is just s lazy term for "short circuit" meaning than the power goes to ground before the load. Hence short.

 An open circuit is what Gareth had in his ELC. The wire was corroded leaving an open in the circuit.

 A draw, or drain is what will drain a battery. A circuit that should be shut off stays operational causing a load on the battery eventually draining it.

 The gauge you speak of Jon are used to find the location of the short to ground. They are of no use in locating a drain.

 Finding the cause of a draw can be very time consuming and difficult. There are no fancy tools that will direct you to the cause. If you have located the which fuse protects the circuits, then you have to go device by device until the load is removed.

 One tool that will help is placing a light in series across the fuse. If the light stays lit, there is a sufficient draw on that fuse to drain the battery. When you go through the various circuits on that fuse, observe the light. It will go out when you have located the draw. But keep in mind that some circuits may be timed, like the interior lights. make sure they have timed out, or shut off before you install the light.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 14, 2013, 08:03:27 PM
The body fuse has a drain,  which means at some location there is a circuit being made (whether it's a component failure,  or a wire losing it's insulation and short circuiting to the body.  The manual mentions that you can use the short finder to see where in the body this problem is occurring. It would indicate the current going through the body panels so you start at the battery and move back figuring out which fender is carrying the current,  then when you go past the point of the drain, it would indicate no more current.  This just helps you figure out what section of the car to look for problems.
I've had the ELC system cause a drain on my old buick,  so since Gareth mentioned it wasn't working, it led me to believe there's a chance the problem could be there.

I hate dealing with Body fuse drains because the wires are going all over the car.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 14, 2013, 08:41:44 PM

 I'm familiar with that and have used it. They can be helpful in locating a short circuit, but are near useless for a drain. If you have a 300 mA drain, such as a light staying on, then it will not locate it. What it does is look for the magnetic field generated where the short to ground is located.

 Look for the usual culprits like the vanity mirror lights staying on, the glove box light, trunk light and so forth. Check the lighters for debris that can create a circuit.

 You can disconnect the ELC system at the 5-pin connector at the compressor. That takes the level sensor out of the circuit as well.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 15, 2013, 06:39:56 AM
Yeah,  I was going to try unhooking the compressor to see what happens.
The drain is ~ 1 A.  I was hoping that it would be large enough to register on a short finder if someone had one or they are cheap enough.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 03, 2013, 07:09:35 PM

 Today turned into a nice day, albeit cool. But there was a light breeze and the sun was shining. Finally a good day to get at that Eldorado. I got everything off it I wanted...

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 03, 2013, 07:10:48 PM
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Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on November 03, 2013, 09:06:33 PM
Nice! I love seeing the trunk full of parts. it makes me think of the old monied guys on the CLC forums 40 years ago stripping the old scrap cars for parts. It must have looked much the same. I hope the parts serve you well over the years.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on November 04, 2013, 03:10:14 PM
Where did the heads come from? The pics show the Eldo still has them.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 04, 2013, 03:54:43 PM
Good eye.

Those were from the storage space.  We got them out in case Rene wanted them.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 04, 2013, 10:37:28 PM

 More bits may come off the car too. Kevin needs some pieces for his Aunt's STS. She had a minor run in with the concrete in her underground parking. The trim and possibly the park lamp. But it will be easier to pull the entire bumper.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 05, 2013, 06:54:45 AM
What year is the STS?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 05, 2013, 08:16:42 AM

 1991

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 05, 2013, 02:08:00 PM
Ahhh,  so the eldo bumper stainless will work.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 05, 2013, 05:14:59 PM
I tried to take the eldo bumper off but I ran out of time.
I took the two lower brackets off (one on each side that connect the bottom of the bumper with the front rail to keep the back of the bumper level).
I removed the wheel well moulding trim screws that look like they might go into the bumper.
I removed the bumper piston bolts.
I then tried to lower the bumper onto the stand I had set up but to no avail.  It still seemed firmly attached.
I discovered another bolt that I could see which connected the top of the bumper with the fender,  so I took that out.  But still,  the bumper remained attached.   I am wondering if there is a second bolt connecting the bumper to the fender further back where I can't see.
I took the side stainless piece off to get a better look but ran out of time.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on November 05, 2013, 07:33:42 PM
I tried to take the eldo bumper off but I ran out of time.
I took the two lower brackets off (one on each side that connect the bottom of the bumper with the front rail to keep the back of the bumper level).
I removed the wheel well moulding trim screws that look like they might go into the bumper.
I removed the bumper piston bolts.
I then tried to lower the bumper onto the stand I had set up but to no avail.  It still seemed firmly attached.
I discovered another bolt that I could see which connected the top of the bumper with the fender,  so I took that out.  But still,  the bumper remained attached.   I am wondering if there is a second bolt connecting the bumper to the fender further back where I can't see.
I took the side stainless piece off to get a better look but ran out of time.

Wow, sounds like it's ready to fall off already!  Based on the notes in the E/K manual, the only thing left might be the removal of the side marker lamps to gain access to the bumper fascia to fender bolts (maybe 1 remaining per side?), then once the 2 electrical connectors and 1 socket are unfastened, the whole assembly should slide off forward, but remember to save some of the fun for us!  :)

The number of individual parts in these bumper assemblies is incredible, and there does not seem to be any cost-reduction compared to the previous generation.  With a smaller footprint and less distinctive hard-points to work with, they went overboard with the details.  No wonder they were on the verge of bankruptcy in the 1990-91 period.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 05, 2013, 08:09:15 PM
Yeah,  that's what I figured,  I started taking the stainless off to get the side marker out when I ran out of time.  right now there is only 1 fender bolt holding on the passenger side,  but bother fender bolts are in place on the driver's side.  surprisingly, it's still quite solidly in place.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on November 05, 2013, 08:59:10 PM
Cadillac once had much simpler times. My bumper has four bolts.  =rofl=


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 05, 2013, 09:02:58 PM
The bumper on chester has the two side brackets (need to take off one bolt per bracket)  and 4 bolts for each of the 2 pistons.   so 10 in total.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 05, 2013, 10:36:27 PM

 I can attest to the complexity of that little Cadillac. Few if anything is easy to do, there is a lot involved. Lots of bits and pieces, and the level of detailing in trim pieces is impressive. These really were high end cars. Too bad the resembled the much cheaper and similarly sized N-cars of the mid 80's. Those cars were truly little piles of junk.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 06, 2013, 07:22:53 AM
I had a 92 Skylark N-car,  it had the 3.3L V6 and could really move.  I really liked that car, although it never did satisfy my desire for having a big car.   It was totaled in an accident after some jackass ran a stop sign so only I had it for 7 months, so I guess I didn't get a chance to see what kind of problems came up with those cars.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 06, 2013, 07:35:14 AM
but remember to save some of the fun for us!  :)


Does that mean you're coming down?
Mike mentioned something about coming here thursday to pick up the bumper but he didn't mention what time or anything else.
I was going to get the bumper off and then send the car away to the scrapper but if something else is being planned...


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 06, 2013, 09:49:56 AM
What exactly do you want off the car?
The side stainless comes off easy,  the front stainless seems like it should come out easy once the bumper pads are off.  I got one bumper pad off no problem,  but the other had 1 bolt that started to spin inside the pad so it'll be more difficult to get but we can probably cut it off easily.
If we cut the bumper up the stainless will come off no problem.
I tried again at getting the fender bolts out but I couldn't figure out how to get off the housing plate that holds the side light in place (part number 1 in your second picture).


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on November 06, 2013, 03:02:25 PM
Here's a photo of the damaged trim - nothing serious, but after my aunt told me about it (her 'first' dent) last weekend, I happened to see Mike's photo of the Eldorado's front-end.  I'm free to head over tomorrow to help and get the bumper out of everyone's way, just waiting for confirmation on when it'd be convenient.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 06, 2013, 03:17:37 PM
That piece is ready to come off since i've already got the passenger side bumper pad off and the side stainless piece off.
If that's the only piece you need,  then there is no need to take the bumper off.
message me your phone number and we'll work out how to get the piece to you.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 06, 2013, 04:10:49 PM
I just got that piece off.
It has 4 studs that hold it in place.  One of them broke off.  I doused them all with penetrant but even working the nut forward and back was no use.  I'm sure that the piece will still hold on fine with the remaining 3 studs.  And since the stud broke off at the end,  it might even still have enough meat to get a nut on it anyway.

(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj580/j2rossit/100_0807_zpsdd77f76d.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/j2rossit/media/100_0807_zpsdd77f76d.jpg.html)
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(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj580/j2rossit/100_0809_zps56b83d44.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/j2rossit/media/100_0809_zps56b83d44.jpg.html)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 06, 2013, 11:18:15 PM

 Good job Jon!

 I'm off tomorrow so if you want to come by Kevin, it would be great. I have no real plans otherwise, and it would be a good excuse for a visit and some Cadillac chat.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 13, 2013, 08:31:46 AM

 I was out doing some running around yesterday in Vera. I went to Chapters to get a couple of magazines, and when I came oput I was greeted with a dead battery. I called Maureen and she came by and gave me a boost.

 I got home and swapped the battery with the one that came out of the Eldorado. Then I checked the charging. 12.5V. That's it. So I put it on the charger. Going to go and check it again today.

 But I called NAPA to check price and availability on an alternator. None in stock anywhere. Seems their listing shows it unique to the Cadillac Brougham '88-'90. Hard to believe. But if they are right, I may be fubarred for an alternator. I'd repair it myself, but I have no source for parts on this style of alternator.

 Funny thing is, the charge light works and goes out as soon as the engine starts and you can hear it charging, and it sounds nice and healthy.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 13, 2013, 08:48:54 AM
There's an alternator rebuilding place on Victoria,  a real small time place.  My buddy with the Jag got a fantastic deal from them on a rebuilt one (like half the price of what rockauto was charging for a rebuilt). 
Victoria Starter and Alternator
1601 Victoria N U 5, Kitchener, ON N2B 3E6
(519) 579-4994


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 13, 2013, 08:52:26 AM

 If all else fails, I may go there. Thanks Jon.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 13, 2013, 09:22:50 AM
Hold the phone,  I just check Rockauto,  I could get a Wholesale Closeout AC-Delco re-manufactured complete with delivery  for $68 plus tax.
Now that is for the 100 Amp version,  what does she have now?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 13, 2013, 09:31:01 AM

  =rofl=

 I just did that Jon. I saw the closeout for $43. With shipping it comes to $70. It's on its' way! I always check Rock Auto for anything first just for this reason. I have got some great deals on manufacturer closeouts.

 I went out and checked. 12.5V with the engine not running. I started it and it went to 13.5V. So I have some time now that I'm aware of the situation. I'll keep the battery charged and keep my booster with me and I'll be fine until the replacement gets here. There is no core, so then I can take this one apart and repair it at my leisure.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 13, 2013, 09:38:43 AM
 =rofl=
When I first checked their catalog it said "only 4 remaining".   But now it says "only 3 remaining".  I'm glad to see they've got their system well updated.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on November 13, 2013, 09:54:24 AM
That's a great deal.  How many can repair their daily driver using Wholesale Close-Outs?  We are members of a select club.  :)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 13, 2013, 10:05:40 AM

 Hey Kevin,

 I scored a set of rear struts on manufacturer closeout for the '88 Eldo. Ditto for the AC compressor clutch. I never installed them and they are kicking around here still. Would your aunt be interested in them just in case for her STS?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 13, 2013, 01:14:24 PM

 I just got notification from Rock Auto that it has been shipped.   whoo/hoo

 Now, let's see how long it takes. I'm thinking early next week. And no UPS BS.

 BTW, I went out and did some running around again. No issues, it started every time. I stopped in to see Maureen and she even suggested that I get two since they are "Obsolete" I did that with the heater valve. They use some oddball 3-outlet valve. Rock Auto had 2 left. I bought them both.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on November 13, 2013, 04:11:24 PM
Hey Kevin,

 I scored a set of rear struts on manufacturer closeout for the '88 Eldo. Ditto for the AC compressor clutch. I never installed them and they are kicking around here still. Would your aunt be interested in them just in case for her STS?

 Mike

A new Delphi compressor was installed almost 3 years ago; I think that clutch should work on most if not all 1989-93 4.X models, plus more.  The front struts were replaced by the previous owner (using 1990 STS parts, still available in the late '90s), but the rears are still the original 3-position dampers (Computer Command Ride).  The damping seems fine, and I make a point of spraying Rust-Check on the sensitive areas around the air bladder, but it's due for an oil change soon, so I'll have a close look - I'll also see what she says.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on November 13, 2013, 04:57:22 PM
There is a shop here in Hamilton, AF&B on Rennie St that can rebuild your alternator.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 13, 2013, 05:50:29 PM

 

A new Delphi compressor was installed almost 3 years ago; I think that clutch should work on most if not all 1989-93 4.X models, plus more.  The front struts were replaced by the previous owner (using 1990 STS parts, still available in the late '90s), but the rears are still the original 3-position dampers (Computer Command Ride).  The damping seems fine, and I make a point of spraying Rust-Check on the sensitive areas around the air bladder, but it's due for an oil change soon, so I'll have a close look - I'll also see what she says.


 Looks like it's covered as far as the compressor is concerned. And the shocks as you know are not compatible with CCR. BTW, they are Gabriels.

 
There is a shop here in Hamilton, AF&B on Rennie St that can rebuild your alternator.


 Thanks Joe. For what I'm getting this one for, it's cheaper than a rebuild. I plan on rebuilding the one that comes out so that I have a spare. I can do that myself. I think there is a place local where I can buy the parts for it.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 16, 2013, 05:09:19 PM
 Gareth and I competed the process of putting our '94's away for the winter.

 The '90 has been starting fine every time, but still only shows 13.5 when running. Maybe I could have gone to the cabin after all... <doh!>

 Last check the alternator made Burlington yesterday. Damn, I wish I could see that much country for $30. Started in Texas, then Arkansas, Kentucky, Ohio then Tonawanda (maybe checking out the GM engine plant).

 I hope to see it Monday. Hope.....

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 16, 2013, 07:31:25 PM
That's quite the trip.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 20, 2013, 09:41:56 AM

 Alternator arrived yesterday.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on November 20, 2013, 09:50:45 AM
Too bad it can't install itself. hahah


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 20, 2013, 09:59:38 AM

 Yeah. It'll have to wait until Saturday. But it cam with a V-groove pulley on it, so I have to change that over. Without my compressor that will be a challenge.

 Damn, I need to get a motor and get this thing running again.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 20, 2013, 12:31:01 PM
You can always bring it over and use mine.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on November 21, 2013, 10:19:19 PM
I took the '95 D-car for an emission test in anticipation of the tag renewal early next year.  While paying in the office, I heard a sudden, LOUD ROAR of the 7-blade engine-driven cooling fan, and before you could spell "WTF", I dashed out and "asked" (amongst other things, in rapid succession) why I heard the engine bouncing off the 4000 RPM limiter while in Park.  The operator claimed it was a case of pedal misapplication; he thought his foot was on the brake!    censored/

This car failed once a few years ago due to stale fuel.  The knock sensors compensate for below 87 octane (from storage) to some degree, but even trace detonation (pinging) will cause formation of NO to skyrocket.  Now that they've eliminated the 40 km/h dynamometer, exhaust NO is no longer a concern, but I still made sure I had 50% fresh premium before this test.  The results were 15 PPM HC and 0% CO for both idle and 2500 RPM.  Interestingly, there was no RPM reading on the printout.  It seems the operator could not see an RPM signal via their cigarette lighter adapter, and was apparently too scared to open the hood, so the printout shows a reading of 'N/A' and result of 'BYPASS'.  That was smart, because after the earlier incident, I would not have tolerated anyone poking around under the hood!!  It's good to know this RPM bypass option is available. 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 21, 2013, 10:34:52 PM

 Ooohoo hooo hoo! Man, I would have had some choice words. Pedal misapplication?

 Anyhow, it's good to hear how it's done now with the OBD I cars. Pretty much a guarantee. So the RPM by-pass, was that something that is built in? You can't read it with their equipment?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 22, 2013, 06:24:24 AM
If I remember correctly (which I'm probably not), there was a sensor that one shop laid down on the cowl to detect rpm.    -uh-


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on November 22, 2013, 02:11:06 PM
It's a good thing it wasn't in gear when they Miss applied the pedal. I would have been quite pissed.
 I had mine tested in Sept and it passed with flying colours.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on November 22, 2013, 03:29:46 PM
It's a good thing it wasn't in gear when they Miss applied the pedal. I would have been quite pissed.
 I had mine tested in Sept and it passed with flying colours.

GJ

Now I know why Brake Shift Interlock was invented - I'm willing to bet that newbie was tugging at the gear selector while his foot was planted on the accelerator!!

I'm not familiar with all their RPM sensing devices.  In past years, on other vehicles, I recall seeing them go through a trial-and-error process of clamping an induction pickup on various wires and hoses (!), but what really got me was when they ran it on the dynamometer and ignored my (documented) offer to point-out the location of the Traction Control disable button.  So they used to start off by trying to overheat my rear brakes, and if the situation looked hopeless, I'd run over and sort them out.  In more recent years, they said the computer only required them to perform a 2 speed idle test on this model, so there may have been some cases of damaged vehicles.

The RPM readings don't seem to be a high priority.  A few weeks ago, I had a friend's car tested, and although the measured RPM fell outside of the specified 2250-2750 RPM range, it was deemed a 'Pass'.  I like going to the test-only centre on Warden Ave. since it's close to 401, and if things are timed correctly, there's not much of a wait.  A good blast on 401 can reduce the results by 50% or more, but the key is not letting it sit for more than 5-10 minutes before measurements are made.

Another regular request is to leave the hood open.  The last thing I want is some klutz putting a dimple on the hood or breaking the filaments in my lamps.  I consider this essential on cars with aluminum hoods or those made with pedestrian safety as a priority.  The best technique for many newer cars is to get a feel for the correct height and let gravity take over!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on November 24, 2013, 12:37:29 PM
That just reminded me of when I took my 94 in 2 years ago.
 The kid that pulled it into the bay put the front wheels on the Dyno.
Can you imagine what would have happened if I didn't run out to let him know it was Rear drive?

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 24, 2013, 12:42:46 PM
 *yikes*


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 02, 2013, 10:40:28 PM

 Oh, I replaced the blower motor on the '90 Brougham on Sunday. I was squealing pretty loud when it started up. I had one in stock....

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on December 03, 2013, 06:44:08 AM

 Oh, I replaced the blower motor on the '90 Brougham on Sunday. I was squealing pretty loud when it started up. I had one in stock....

 Mike

It's nice to have spares.. I squeal too when I find a good spare in my parts bin.  <giggle>


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 03, 2013, 07:39:38 AM
 =rofl= <lol>  +wave+


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 03, 2013, 08:27:12 AM

 Well I didn't squeal, but I did get a good feeling when the label on the motor said it was made in Canada.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on December 03, 2013, 07:38:28 PM

 Well I didn't squeal, but I did get a good feeling when the label on the motor said it was made in Canada.

 Mike

This reminds me of something recent. I searched the internets for days and days, or even weeks and finally found a correctly sized 6 volt blower motor for my heater. In Kenosha, Wisconsin. Bought it, and it arrived, and said, "Made in Canada." DOH!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 03, 2013, 07:55:30 PM
I was apart of the alternative fuels team at the university. We were entering a challenge where each team got a Chevy equinox to convert.  The equinox is assembled just down the 401 from here in Ingersoll,  but all the challenge vehicles were first delivered to the home base of the competition in Chicago before being delivered to each team.  So the equinox we had traveled a whopping 1500 km to make it from Ingersoll to here.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 03, 2013, 10:44:52 PM

 Yep, even the Americans know the good stuff comes from Canada!  =rofl=

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 11, 2013, 09:37:24 AM

 I booked the '87 and '90 Broughams into Krown tomorrow. At the time of booking, it looked like the weather from them until tomorrow would be OK. But now we have all this snow, and the sloppy roads that go along with it. Not ideal at all.

 But it is indeed a crap shoot.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 11, 2013, 10:18:36 AM
I think Krown is ok to be applied while the car is wet.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 11, 2013, 11:00:01 AM

 I'm hoping. I know that Krown is also a water displacement.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on December 11, 2013, 11:38:42 AM
All of the oil-based rust proofing compounds displace water to some degree, however, oil has a lower density and will tend to float on top of standing water.  The latter is usually only a problem when drain holes get plugged.  Although not ideal, the quality of application can compensate for wet surfaces, plus there's the creeping action that continues over a few days.  Before and after application, I try to keep the car body as warm as possible by keeping the Climate Control at 26 C while driving around to help drive moisture away and promote creeping.  As for slush accumulation, those high wear areas can be treated again at a later time using an aerosol applicator.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 11, 2013, 10:41:35 PM

 Another snowy day out there. I hope a good application can be made. I haven't been driving the cars much at all in this weather, only what's needed. So I hope the moisture build up isn't bad.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 12, 2013, 09:16:23 AM
I had to move Chester a couple days ago to make room for the window guy to try and finish the last of the flashing.  He got all but 1 window flashing done (the one that needed Chester out of the way  <doh!>)  So whenever he comes back I'll have to move Chester again.  I hope he waits till spring since the weather has gone south and I don't like trying to take the car cover off when it's frozen (more likely that it will tear) and the window is fine without the flashing.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on December 12, 2013, 11:58:47 AM
I like using my car during the winter when the roads are bare and dry so I tried using just the car cover alone.
It froze to the paint and was really hard to remove. I went to Princess Auto and got 2 of their silver grey tarps
and some bungee cords. I still use the car cover but then cover the car with the tarps held down with the cords.
I also put the windows down about an inch or so. There is enough air circulation under the tarps for the paint
and interior to stay nice and dry all winter.
The only drawback is that it's a bit more work covering it up again after using the car. But in a way just being
able to take my car out for a run during the winter makes up for it.
This year is different though. I removed my dash pad and door panels, so It wouldn't look right to use the car now
with half the interior missing.

RON

 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 12, 2013, 03:55:03 PM

 Yes, it's nice to be able to take them out on a nice day in the winter. When you can. That trip the cabin a couple of years ago in February in the '70 was really nice.

 I took the '87 and '90 Broughams in to be Krowned today. I told them that maybe today wasn't such a good day to do so. They said no worry, they clean all the slop and salt off the car before they treat it. They did it fast and what appears to be good. But it's so bloody nasty out there that I just don't want to roll around and inspect their work just yet. I'm off tomorrow so maybe I can get out for a look see.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on December 12, 2013, 04:51:47 PM
I still haven't decided what to do with the undercoat on the 38. It's partly there and partly not. I need it more to protect from abrasion, especially in those huge wheel wells.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 12, 2013, 05:16:21 PM

 How about some of that stuff they put in pick-up beds. Rhino coat, is it called? Spray or coat it in strategic areas.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on December 12, 2013, 05:19:02 PM
I can get all the polyurea (rhino linings) I can use for free from a client as well as higher quality polyurethane but I think, from all the cleaning I've done, that it is actually coated with an asphalt impregnated epoxy. I think i can make my own if it isn't manufactured any longer.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 12, 2013, 05:58:20 PM
 Yeah. Whatever can be used to protect the surface. It acts as a sound deadener as well.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on December 12, 2013, 06:01:02 PM
I'm being obsessive and trying to get as close to authentic as possible. I got a call from a very nice gentleman in Georgia today. He has a full set of door window frames for $75 each and, I haven't seen them yet, but they are supposed to have near mint chrome.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 12, 2013, 06:06:20 PM

 Cool! Now that would be a score!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on December 12, 2013, 06:23:33 PM
Sure is! My window frames are in terrible condition and will cost a small fortune to repair and rechrome.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 12, 2013, 06:34:09 PM

 Finding good originals is always better than paying big $$$ to having ones that are in bad shape redone.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on December 16, 2013, 02:36:28 PM
I really didn't do anything to my Cadillac, but I may have found out where the body short is coming from.
 I was playing with the light switch and when turning it the headlight alarm would sound then stop.
The switch has Twilight Sentinel and auto dimming. I don't know the insides of it. Can it be rebuilt? Or perhaps spraying it with electrical cleaner might fix the problem?


GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 16, 2013, 05:19:49 PM
They are reasonably simple to repair. The dimmer ans headlamp controls are just rheostats. A good cleaning usually does the trick.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on December 16, 2013, 06:38:38 PM
I gave my caddy (06) the week off due to the nasty weather out there!  This is when the Tacoma's 2/4/4 low comes in very handy  -yes-


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on December 16, 2013, 06:57:54 PM
I dug my car out of the drift the wind left around and on top of it. There was about 8'' on top of it and snow up to the rocker panels. I'm glad I wrapped it up as well as I did.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 16, 2013, 10:30:42 PM

 The defroster worked on the way home tonight! Nice to have a clear shot down the road.

  whoo/hoo

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on December 17, 2013, 09:03:00 AM

 The defroster worked on the way home tonight! Nice to have a clear shot down the road.

  whoo/hoo

 Mike

YAY!!   <looney>


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 17, 2013, 09:28:21 AM
Hey Sam,
After the battery replacement on DCC did anything else come up,  or is she all good?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on December 17, 2013, 09:48:50 AM
Hey Sam,
After the battery replacement on DCC did anything else come up,  or is she all good?

SSSHHHH!  Not a problem. Even my radio settings were intact.  Next year I'm buying her snow tires for my birthday  :)

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 17, 2013, 09:54:59 AM
Get a plow attachement  ;)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 17, 2013, 10:27:34 AM

 Yeah, the battery worked on the '90 Brougham as well. I guess I'm going to put the new alternator on the shelf for a rainy day.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on December 17, 2013, 11:06:55 AM
-28 this morning & the G5 was a slow turnover, I think the battery may be on it's way out.

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on December 17, 2013, 11:35:38 AM
At  -28 anything is going to be slow turnover. I can't imagine being out when it's that cold.
That could freeze the balls off a brass monkey.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on December 17, 2013, 11:53:34 AM
At  -28 anything is going to be slow turnover. I can't imagine being out when it's that cold.
That could freeze the balls off a brass monkey.

RON

and I actually know what that means   -yes-

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on December 17, 2013, 12:06:50 PM
Funny thing is I was in my uniforum & all packed up ready for work at 04:30 when I went out to start the car & went right back in the house, striped off my uniform, put on some long underwhere, got dressed again & put my blue British commando sweater on as an extra pull over. By the time I got to work I realized I left my testicles in the snow at home.

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on December 17, 2013, 12:36:25 PM
You actually went outside at -28 without longjohns ?   /brrr/    You must be either brave or crazy or have
you pre-warmed your innards with a hot toddy or two or three or ..........?

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on December 17, 2013, 12:37:39 PM
Long johns? What are they?

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on December 17, 2013, 01:13:14 PM
Long johns? What are they?

GJ

You should have asked about the sweater instead.

(http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii535/madcaddyman/longjohns2_zpsfc412c2c.jpg) (http://s1258.photobucket.com/user/madcaddyman/media/longjohns2_zpsfc412c2c.jpg.html)

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 17, 2013, 01:37:46 PM
Unless he would only be wearing a sweater....


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 17, 2013, 02:40:02 PM
At  -28 anything is going to be slow turnover. I can't imagine being out when it's that cold.
That could freeze the balls off a brass monkey.

RON

and I actually know what that means   -yes-

Sam

 As do I!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 17, 2013, 02:41:12 PM
Unless he would only be wearing a sweater....

  <doh!>

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 17, 2013, 02:51:59 PM

 Maureen was complaining that the washers on the '87 Brougham weren't working, so I took a look when I got back from doing some running around. The bottle is frozen. Simple enough. 2 10mm screws, a connector and the hose and it now sits in the sink to thaw. I'll fill it with some -45 stuff I have when I put it back in.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 17, 2013, 07:33:17 PM

 Done. Washers work fine now. Checked the oil and coolant too. That was up to par.

 But I have to get it in to get the oil changed soon.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on December 18, 2013, 02:27:10 PM


You should have asked about the sweater instead.



I'm sorry I said anything


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on December 18, 2013, 04:58:35 PM
Technically it's not my Cadillac, but my uncle's 1996 DeVille Concours was 'mine' for the day because the Oil Life Monitor was at 5% and the power trunk pull-down was acting up over the weekend.  The trunk would latch per normal, but the striker would not retract to pull the lid flush with the body.  This has happened maybe 3 times before over the past 5 years, always during periods of prolonged cold; I had always suspected that frost accumulation was a factor, since applying heat and manipulating the switch would always restore operation.  The attachments show the internals of the original pull-down switch unit (mounted via 1 Torx screw) that had exhibited the same problem 2-3 years ago.  The first photo shows a 2-position slider switch that mirrors the movement of the striker; these contacts were in good condition.  The second photo shows a 'Trunk Lid Ajar Switch' contact exhibiting significant arc erosion (see lower arrow).  I scraped away the layer of oxide, used some contact cleaner and fresh grease, then re-assembled it using the original rivets and some solder.  We'll see if it acts up again during the next deep freeze. 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 18, 2013, 09:49:01 PM
Keep your fingers crossed.

Do you think the lid ajar sensor would have anything to do with pull down operation?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 18, 2013, 10:03:42 PM

 I've pulled a couple of them apart and found basically the same thing. Clean and lube the contact with silicon grease and they are good to go. I fixed the one on the '88 Eldo 7 years ago and it was still working.

 Mikw


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on December 19, 2013, 12:15:01 AM
Good to know it's a fairly common issue.  There appears to be a drain path to take care of possible moisture intrusion while the trunk is open, but I guess the grease eventually gets washed away or dries out.

The lid ajar sensor completes the circuit that retracts the striker while the trunk lid is not in the closed position and is latched to the striker.  Manual activation of the latch switch will cause the striker to retract, but when it reaches the lower limit (as determined by the sliding contacts in the first photo), and the lid ajar circuit is still closed, the striker will extend to the upper limit.  This cycle will repeat as long as the latch switch is closed manually and it's a great way to exercise the motor!  When the lid reaches the closed position, it pushes down on the lid ajar sensor, which raises the contacts at the upper arrow of the second photo and breaks the circuit.

About 6 years ago, there was an unusual problem with the trunk release.  The solenoid armature was sitting out of the bore and would no longer respond to the energized coil!  Thankfully, the key still worked.  It seems the surrounding grease served as a damper, slowing down the rate at which the armature returned to its rest position, but several applications of Rust-Check had thinned it out.  The solution was to add a screw to limit the travel. 

So what would happen on a newer car without a mechanical key release?  This actually happened on a friend's Infiniti G35x.  Can you believe the release wire was broken in the flexible conduit leading to the lid at only 60K?  It turns out there's a mechanical release on the inside of the lid, which requires the use the trunk pass-through in the rear armrest and a length of utility wire with a hook on the end.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 19, 2013, 08:01:27 AM
It turns out there's a mechanical release on the inside of the lid, which requires the use the trunk pass-through in the rear armrest and a length of utility wire with a hook on the end.

That's what kids are good for.
My grandpa always had a truck.  Whenever he'd lock his keys in the car,  he look around for a small kid and ask the mother if he could hire the youngster for an important job.  he'd open the slider window in the back in send the kid through to unlock the doors.  Then he'd toss the kid $5 and be on his way.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 19, 2013, 08:31:54 AM

 More and more cars are going with transmitter based locks. So what happens if there's a dead battery, the transmitter fails, or the electric release fails?

 That would leave you SOL. In a situation where your car is in a lot somewhere, you're left stranded. A dead battery would really mess things up. No way to access the battery to boost it?

 Every car should still have a proper key lock on the doors and trunk. Period.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on December 19, 2013, 09:37:05 AM

 More and more cars are going with transmitter based locks. So what happens if there's a dead battery, the transmitter fails, or the electric release fails?

 That would leave you SOL. In a situation where your car is in a lot somewhere, you're left stranded. A dead battery would really mess things up. No way to access the battery to boost it?

 Every car should still have a proper key lock on the doors and trunk. Period.

 Mike

You just described what happened when the 06 DTS' battery died.  NO WAY to open the trunk.  I had never looked for a key access on the trunk til that day.  Bad planning on GM's part.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on December 19, 2013, 11:42:17 AM
Quote
You just described what happened when the 06 DTS' battery died.  NO WAY to open the trunk.  I had never looked for a key access on the trunk til that day.  Bad planning on GM's part.

There is an emergency release handle inside the trunk, so the utility wire trick through the rear centre armrest pass-through would work in the case of a 2006-2011 DTS, though the distance from the handle is probably significantly greater than the G35.  The 2000-2005 DeVille, the predecessor to the DTS, has a trunk key release.  This design isn't specific to GM - There's an industry-wide collusion to systematically decontent vehicles in order to improve the bottom line.  How many cars have a keyhole on the front passenger door now?  I accept that some features just aren't used much anymore, but I do expect a mechanical override for all critical functions.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on December 19, 2013, 12:15:28 PM
Quote
You just described what happened when the 06 DTS' battery died.  NO WAY to open the trunk.  I had never looked for a key access on the trunk til that day.  Bad planning on GM's part.

There is an emergency release handle inside the trunk, so the utility wire trick through the rear centre armrest pass-through would work in the case of a 2006-2011 DTS, though the distance from the handle is probably significantly greater than the G35.  The 2000-2005 DeVille, the predecessor to the DTS, has a trunk key release.  This design isn't specific to GM - There's an industry-wide collusion to systematically decontent vehicles in order to improve the bottom line.  How many cars have a keyhole on the front passenger door now?  I accept that some features just aren't used much anymore, but I do expect a mechanical override for all critical functions.

My '81 has both options, so I guess you're right - bottom line wins again  -uh-

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 31, 2013, 05:22:56 PM
Mike,  I got your ECC head for $30 plus shipping from Texas. I gave the guy my shipping address since I didn't know what yours was exactly.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 01, 2014, 08:20:15 AM

 That is awesome Jon! Thank you!

 Yes, that is a good price. Just let me know how much the total is and I'll get the cash off ASAP. Does he have Paypal?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 01, 2014, 08:43:40 AM
he needs to wait till tomorrow to get the final shipping price,  but it's looking like it'll probably be in the $25 range.  He's going to send me a paypal invoice once he knows what it'll cost him.  I'll let you know what it comes to when I pay it.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on January 01, 2014, 09:33:50 AM
Will you get dinged for import duties on an item such as that?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 01, 2014, 09:50:14 AM
Depends on how you ship.  The current plan is USPS which doesn't usually have any surprises at the door.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 01, 2014, 09:51:01 AM

 I have never had to pay out when USPS ships.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on January 01, 2014, 09:53:10 AM
Then something like that shipped Priority Mail should only be about $6.00 to ship. That should fit in the small PM box. Even the medium size is only about $12.00.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 01, 2014, 09:57:50 AM
Not when it crosses the boarder.   USPS includes all their fees up front and the receiver doesn't get any additional charges.
UPS will charge the sender the same price as USPS but then surprise the receiver with extra fees at the door.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on January 01, 2014, 06:32:58 PM
Me & Mike know all about those UPS fees, don't we Mike.

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on January 02, 2014, 05:42:05 AM
Ship it to Mexico and it'll probably be no charge. But Canada? Double the fees. Communistic.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 02, 2014, 07:45:41 AM
Me & Mike know all about those UPS fees, don't we Mike.

Rene

 We do.... bang/head

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on January 02, 2014, 02:17:25 PM
I know all about how crooked UPS is as well.
 I tell everyone to ship USPS or Fed Ex.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 02, 2014, 03:37:11 PM

 Since I bagged off work today to try and nurse this persistent sore back, I had to go out and at least start the cars. -16C isn't very nice weather especially since Victoria has sat since Monday night and Vera since Tuesday.

 First Vera. She was really hesitant, cranking very slow and for some time. But she fired, then stalled. But started right up again. But she made some disturbing buzzing and moaning noises before settling into a stable idle. I left her rin and went over to try Victoria.

 Being so cold, having a carb and sitting for 2 days, I hoped..... But 3 pumps and turned the key and she cranked fine. But for quite awhile again. But fired right up and came to a good fast idle after less than 10 seconds. I let her warm an bit and went for a short drive.

 It's so cold that even the salters stayed in. It just won't melt. So the roads were all snow covered and quite slick in some spots. But these cars are awesome in the snow, so no issues. And they have furnace like heaters.

 I parked her, checked out Vera, which was also quite warm. And the defroster was working too! Then shut her off.

 I know they'll start OK tomorrow when both of us have to go to work.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 02, 2014, 06:12:33 PM
Speaking of defrosters,

The shipping was less than $20 and after currency exchange, the invoice for the ECC head came through at ~$50.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 02, 2014, 06:23:00 PM
He just told me that he got hit with a paypal fee when he received my payment,  so I sent him $3 more.  So $53 it is.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 02, 2014, 06:34:00 PM

 10-4. I'll get it to you when I see you next.

 Thanks Jon. This is a big help.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 02, 2014, 07:11:48 PM
No problem.
I'll keep you posted as to when it arrives.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on January 11, 2014, 01:31:41 AM
Pulled out the 92 Eldo yesterday & found this in my driveway after letting the car warm up.

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 11, 2014, 06:12:23 AM

 So what did you catch?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 11, 2014, 07:11:55 AM
So I take it that isn't tranny fluid?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on January 11, 2014, 07:29:38 AM
Something hiding in a snow cave to keep warm maybe?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 11, 2014, 07:53:27 AM

 It's pretty red to be trans fluid.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on January 11, 2014, 08:47:41 AM
If the pictures shows the true colour, my guess is it's either blood, or RIO (red iron oxide better known as rust) mixed with tranny fluid.

Am I close? 

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on January 11, 2014, 09:17:50 AM
Rust? On a Canadian car?? Never heard of such a thing.  .no.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on January 11, 2014, 09:28:32 AM
Wasted CC paint or a toasted interior on a Floriduh car ? No such thing.

Jacksonville is in the news quite often and it's never good news.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on January 11, 2014, 09:49:48 AM
Rust? On a Canadian car?? Never heard of such a thing.  .no.
   :poke:

 =rofl=

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on January 11, 2014, 10:47:38 AM
Wasted CC paint or a toasted interior on a Floriduh car ? No such thing.

Jacksonville is in the news quite often and it's never good news.

CDV

That's right. Burned alive.

What did Stampie do now to get in the news? Clean up his front yard?   *yikes* po.tty


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on January 11, 2014, 10:49:44 AM
Tranny fluid coming from the line off the rad.

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on January 11, 2014, 10:54:06 AM
Rubber section fractured from the cold?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on January 11, 2014, 10:55:54 AM
I'm charging my battery on my 66 CDV.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on January 11, 2014, 11:07:48 AM
What I did for my caddies today?  Thanks to a snow dam and rapid melting, I opened the garage door to let the water OUT.  [url=http://www.freesmileys.or

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on January 11, 2014, 11:39:49 AM
I did a damp wipe off and drying. Might find a show this afternoon. And it ain't cool if your chrome don't shine.  <naughty>


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on January 11, 2014, 11:48:43 AM
I did a damp wipe off and drying. Might find a show this afternoon. And it ain't cool if your chrome don't shine.  <naughty>

Colour me jealous  .no.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 11, 2014, 12:05:24 PM
I'm going to finally be able to take the cover off this afternoon and get to start Chester up.  When the kids take their nap I'll get into it.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on January 11, 2014, 12:42:24 PM
Rubber section fractured from the cold?

I think so, but to cold too my hands into it right now.

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on January 11, 2014, 01:14:00 PM
Look at inline tubes website and see if the line is in 4 sections, (2 for each, supply to cooler and return) or one complete line from trans to cooler.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 11, 2014, 08:01:01 PM
Got Chester finally uncovered.  I did two back and forth from off to run to pressurize the fuel system,  then pushed it all the way to crank and she fired up right away. I pulled it forward up the driveway so that I could shovel all the snow that was packed between it and the back deck.  Let it run for a while then tucked it back away.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 12, 2014, 07:03:32 PM
No problem.
I'll keep you posted as to when it arrives.

It hasn't arrived yet but I got a tracking number that I PM'd you.
I took a look and it doesn't give an expected delivery date  -uh-.  It's made it to Illinois so far.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 12, 2014, 07:27:28 PM

 Thanks Jon!

 Sometimes it does take awhile.

 I ordered some more casting silicone last week from Modeller's choice in Hamilton. Canada Post's expected arrival is Feb 1. That's too long. I ordered it online because I need it soon. So much for that.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on January 13, 2014, 05:19:54 AM
I scored a set of chrome 16 inch rims & center cap I was looking for to go on my 92 Eldo.  bananna'

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 13, 2014, 07:01:05 AM

 Nice!!

 Those are some nice looking wheels.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 13, 2014, 08:47:47 AM
^ What he said


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on January 13, 2014, 09:26:40 AM
Nice!   {truce}

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on January 13, 2014, 02:26:13 PM
Wow! Nice wheels. bananna'

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on January 13, 2014, 02:39:18 PM
Those were such a successful design, they were used in non-chrome format as the base DeVille wheels from 1996 through 1999.  Nice find!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on January 13, 2014, 05:43:43 PM
Very nice looking wheels.

I am nearly finished sanding the car. Just the little finicky spots I have to get with the small sander. Then I move onto the hood and trunk. I also took apart the radiator cowl and pulled out the horns for refinishing. Got all the paint stripped from the cowl and the hood latch bracket. It sure looks pretty.

(http://ceretti.com/caddy/radcowl.jpg)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on January 13, 2014, 07:12:45 PM
I look forward to meeting you and seeing all the hard work you've put into your '38.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 13, 2014, 07:26:51 PM
So it'll be ready for a test drive on the 25th?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on January 13, 2014, 07:40:13 PM
Jon, get in line - BEHIND me   :poke:

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 13, 2014, 08:47:31 PM
It's a big car,  I'm sure we can all fit.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on January 13, 2014, 10:28:39 PM
I recommend everyone getting in line behind the car. It's a big car and it's going to take a lot of people to push it up to highway speed.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 13, 2014, 10:39:38 PM
I recommend everyone getting in line behind the car. It's a big car and it's going to take a lot of people to push it up to highway speed.

  =rofl=

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on January 13, 2014, 11:16:02 PM
I almost forgot, bring your running shoes.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 14, 2014, 07:53:54 AM
Just keep your foot off the brake this time....


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on January 14, 2014, 11:03:18 AM
I can't understand why nobody has asked what I paid?  -scratch/

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 14, 2014, 11:10:02 AM
That's a question I often will try to avoid  po.tty


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 14, 2014, 11:15:40 AM

 And a voluntary answer or submission. I consider it bad taste to ask that. But you must have got them cheap, then.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on January 14, 2014, 11:26:52 AM
 /devil/  There's a car on a side street up on blocks looking for it's rims   /devil/

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 14, 2014, 11:37:09 AM
 <lol>


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on January 14, 2014, 11:39:03 AM

 And a voluntary answer or submission. I consider it bad taste to ask that. But you must have got them cheap, then.

 Mike

$100 rims, $20 caps. I just about $hit my pants when I found out.  bonk}

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on January 14, 2014, 11:40:12 AM
Seriously?  $120 for the group??  Even if it's "each" I stand by what I said about a poor lonely car looking for it's rims.   -yes-

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on January 14, 2014, 11:40:40 AM
/devil/  There's a car on a side street up on blocks looking for it's rims   /devil/

Sam

At the price I paid, yeah you could say I felt like that.

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on January 14, 2014, 11:44:59 AM
Seriously?  $120 for the group??  Even if it's "each" I stand by what I said about a poor lonely car looking for it's rims.   -yes-

Sam

Bought them from a old man, said he took them off his chevrolet lumina before he scraped it  -uh- he had no clue what jems he had there.

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 14, 2014, 11:52:55 AM
wow


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on January 14, 2014, 02:23:29 PM
I wish I could find chrome wheels for my 94 that cheap.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on January 14, 2014, 05:47:42 PM
It must have been like the Ikea commercial "START THE CARRRR STAAARRTTT THE CAARRRRRR" as you ran away from his house.

I committed to the paint today. It's ordered. Here's the colour. I wanted close to the colour on the car but a bit more red. I think I did good now that I see the sample along with my signature.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on January 14, 2014, 07:36:01 PM
Yup, looks like "arrest me red" to me   angel;

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 14, 2014, 10:34:01 PM

 Jayzuz Lord Rene!

 I'll say the old fella didn't have a clue what he had!! I wonder where he got them from, and how. I bet he got then just as cheap, or they came on the car when he bought it.

 Joe, that certainly is red. What brand of paint is that again? When you get it painted, it sure will stand out!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on January 15, 2014, 03:46:04 PM
Joe,

I'm inclined to think Eastwood is selling the Kirker brand paints that I buy from Smart Shoppers, they use the sports car color samples.

http://www.smartshoppersinc.com/kirker/acrylic-urethanes.html

http://www.smartshoppersinc.com/colorchart.html

I use Kirker epoxy primer on bare steel and for a sealer / surfacer for a repaint. What are using on the bare steel parts and how are you prepping the rest of the car ?

Using the acrylic urethane paint ?

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on January 15, 2014, 04:03:12 PM
This is the primer.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231130912205?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

and the paint

http://www.ebay.com/itm/360831484008?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

and the prep/cleaner

http://www.ebay.com/itm/360824757997?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

The problems with paints here in Canada are the ridiculous shipping charges if they even care enough to do the hazardous goods transport forms. Eastwood has the best shipping I have ever seen. Total shipping cost for 5 gallons is $20.00!

You are probably right that it is a common manufacturer for both brand names. Both have the same containers and are 3:1.

Any tips you could give me are welcome.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on January 15, 2014, 04:38:28 PM
Many variables and questions here.

What is the condition of the existing paint - will that yield a good " substrate " for a repaint ? Likely been repainted at least once or had some collision and paint work.

Epoxy or etch primer is what the paint manufacturer's recommend on bare steel or to verify product warranty. I went through all this info years ago at a paint forum and I read the PPG products sheets.

Epoxy primer sticks like a rabid dog and acts as a sealer on top of old paint that may still have some contaminants that will obstruct good adhesion. I assume you aren't stripping the entire car to bare steel.

Polyester primer surfacer is a thick fluid for a high build and lots of blocksanding can be done, you will need a heavy fluid tip for your spray gun.

Fire away and we'll hash out your entire repaint project plan of attack and the best procedures and products to use.

I know the trade pretty well, Mike has seen my 66 CDV BC/CC repaint.

CDV



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on January 15, 2014, 04:54:05 PM
The existing paint is quite old and very thick and was covered with nicks, scratches and lots bubbles etc. I removed any and all blemishes I could find and then filled the few big spots with bondo. Then sanded and more bondo then sanded and spot putty then sanded and more spot putty.  After all that I sanded the entire car with 80 grit and then sanded with 220. It's now in very good condition, finish/blemish wise and has zero of the old gloss left on the paint.

I have done a preliminary dusting and will wash with the prep and then tack it all off. Then take it to the spray booth, wipe it down one more time with the prep and then tack it one more time. Then three coats of primer.

Then it goes back to the garage where I will block sand until I have removed every mark and spot etc that I can find.

Then, more dusting, cleaning, rinse repeat so to speak. Then back to the booth, cleaning any hand prints if it gets any then 3 coats of paint. Initial very thin tack coat, then a second coat to fill in and then a final gloss coat.

At least that's the plan.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on January 15, 2014, 05:10:21 PM
You have some paint experience. Did you go to bare steel for any bondo you applied ?

See how thick that polyester primer surfacer is, two coats might be plenty - three coats overkill.

I've used  polyester putty for some small imperfections or low spots after body work / bondo and epoxy primer and after blocksanding.
Has the consistency of a thick toothpaste and it spreads smooth without any pinholes.

Do you have a spray booth or renting one ?

I assumed you were going with a solid red color single stage,  that would allow for colorsanding and removing any imperfections in the topcoat.

Myself for a metallic or candy paint I would prefer a BC/CC. Assuming the car is smooth the single stage metallic will have to be meticulously applied because you won't have much leeway repairing any runs or blemishes, it will effect the metallic.

Why they sell the BC conversion kit for the single stage paint and CC applied on top. With the CC you can colorsand the clear without any affect on the metallic.

CDV



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on January 15, 2014, 05:58:58 PM
I agree three coats may be overkill but I bought enough so I wouldn't run out if needed. The paint should have no metallic in it. I hope not. Everywhere I put a significant amount of Bondo it was down to bare metal and then cleaned with methalyne chloride. I have the user of an industrial sized spray booth. I don't really want a clear coat or especially a candy effect. Trying to get the look of the old fashioned lacquer paints. Some gloss but not an excessive amount.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on January 15, 2014, 06:07:52 PM
It looks like a solid red, not sure why they call it candy.

I would prefer SS and not a glossy CC.

Looks like you have it covered, I would recommend you mix a small batch of paint and use a test panel to get a feel for the paint and how it sprays, get the gun set up just right. I'd do that before you head over to the spray booth for the last time.

Thumbs up ,

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on January 15, 2014, 08:25:42 PM
I'm really excited to get to the next step, it's a big one. After the paint, getting the engine back in and running. The rest of everything is all the little shît.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 15, 2014, 10:47:33 PM
 You're getting good advice from Porter here, Joe. Yes, I have seen his '66 and it is a beauty.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on January 15, 2014, 10:54:37 PM
Any advice is worthy of an ear, experienced advice is worthy of attention, skilled, experienced and well meaning advice is worthy of gratitude. I have nothing but gratitude for your advice Porter. Thank you.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on January 16, 2014, 09:33:54 AM
Well, I said I'd never do it, but I give up.  The last 2 winters have actually been "winters" so I'm taking in DCC later today so they can put snow paws on her tomorrow.  sigh.  Blizzack. 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 16, 2014, 09:47:15 AM
I love my snow tires.   It's amazing what a difference it makes,   just don't fall into the trap of driving more aggressively just because you have better tires..... It just defeats to point of getting them.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 16, 2014, 10:31:51 PM
A climate control head for a 90's Brougham arrived today....


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 17, 2014, 07:25:39 AM

  whoo/hoo

 I guess I need to pay you a visit!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 17, 2014, 08:02:16 AM
When are you thinking? 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 17, 2014, 09:00:23 AM

 I have another idea. Want to pop over here? Then we can go through my brochures. I can scan the 1992 brochure if you wish. I thought I may have a few of them, so I could give you one. But I have only the one.

 Maureen has to pop over to see her dad, and I'll be tagging along. So sometime this afternoon?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 17, 2014, 09:04:36 AM
Are you working today?

I've got a ton of work that I've got to get done as soon as possible today.  As soon as it's done I'll have some time,  but I don't know when that'll be,  it might be too late for me to do anything.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 17, 2014, 09:26:34 AM

 Nope, not working today.

 I'll be in touch a bit later then. See how you're doing.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on January 17, 2014, 01:12:27 PM
Still stripping. Two radiator support rods, one stripped, one not. 76 years of crud takes a lot of effort to remove.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on January 17, 2014, 02:57:46 PM
My hood hinge springs are weak. I've been searching and finally found some at allcads.com. $125 each and I need two! NO FREAKING WAY AM I PAYING THAT FOR THEM! NO CHANCE! $250 plus shipping plus tax plus whatever I randomly get charged for customs import.

I am not an idiot!

Where the hell does anyone get off thinking they are even anywhere NEAR worth that!??!?!?!??!??!??!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  [url=http://www.freesmileys.or [url=http://www.freesmileys.or [url=http://www.freesmileys.or [url=http://www.freesmileys.or [url=http://www.freesmileys.or [url=http://www.freesmileys.or [url=http://www.freesmileys.or [url=http://www.freesmileys.or [url=http://www.freesmileys.or


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on January 17, 2014, 03:26:06 PM
Supply and demand Joe.
You need 'em, I got 'em, do you see any others laying around anywhere ?
With the amazing work you've been able to do to your car on your own so far, I wouldn't be surprised if you were
to make new hinges yourself.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on January 17, 2014, 03:54:56 PM
Joe,

Try a leaf spring shop, they might be able to re temper your springs for reasonable $$$.

I dealt with leaf springs years ago on a E 350 with a broken spring, they replaced that and added another spring but I under stand they
re temper springs all the time. Maybe not coil springs for your application but whatever.

I'll ask the Johnny what he would do.

CDV



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on January 17, 2014, 05:00:32 PM
That's the thing, it's not for hinges, just the springs. Just two of them. Would be around three hundred for the pair once delivered.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on January 17, 2014, 06:00:38 PM
Joe,

Springs can be re tempered trust me.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on January 17, 2014, 07:55:29 PM
I thought about that but mine are just way too pitted. Some I am happy with because I see it as patina but these are in brutal condition. I'm surprised they haven't broken. When I took them off I wore a full face shield expecting them to snap.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 18, 2014, 10:43:30 AM

 Jon dropped off the control head yesterday.  whoo/hoo Thank you Jon!!

 Sorry I forgot to give you that coupon for Krown...I'll catch up with you probably when you get back from GA.

 Now, I'm ,looking forward to getting it installed. If I get off my duff and get to it. But I'm working the next 3 days.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on January 18, 2014, 01:18:30 PM
I just found the hood hinge springs in the parts book. They have appreciated in value somewhat. Currently selling for $125.00 and when new, $0.45 each.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 18, 2014, 01:38:13 PM

 Jon dropped off the control head yesterday.  whoo/hoo Thank you Jon!!


Any time,  Thanks for the beer  -yes-


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 19, 2014, 10:52:41 PM

 It was only one. You'll have to pop by for a longer visit sometime.

 BTW, what is your ETA for the trip home? Are you still in for the visit to see Joe?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on January 20, 2014, 03:20:28 PM
I've got to say I've been very lucky with parts for my car. I received a UPS package today from Covington Georgia. It contains the 4 window frames I needed and they are in much better condition then I expected. The chrome is easily a 9 out of 10. AND with sheer luck there was still one window regulator attached and it so happens that it is the one I needed and thought I was never going to get. I need one for the vent window on the front passenger side! I've been searching for that particular regulator since June. LUCKY! AND the rubber seals on the two front vent windows are in very very good condition. Those things are expensive! $105 each.

Happy day for me.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on January 20, 2014, 04:12:34 PM
Geez, some guys have all the luck. How about going to the casino with me one day, maybe I can
bring some money home instead of leaving it there ?

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 28, 2014, 08:05:40 AM

 -21 this morning. The '90 wouldn't start. Just rolled over slowly for a few seconds and that was it. I think I'll have to put in a better battery. It's a 6-year old Delco in there now. So back on the charger for a couple  hours.

 However, the '87 fired right up. Maureen is happy.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on January 28, 2014, 08:34:55 AM
Mike - How can I contact FINS ? I will be in Ft Lauderdale next week and thought I might meet up with him.
There is no email address for him on the member's list.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 28, 2014, 08:49:49 AM

 Unless he comes on and sees your post, he won't know. So I'll e-mail him with your e-mail address. so he can contact you.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on January 28, 2014, 11:35:49 AM
Or you could send him a PM. It will go right to his inbox.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 31, 2014, 10:49:01 AM

 Looks like some mild weather coming our way tomorrow. So I'm hoping to replace the ECC head and the battery on the Brougham. But now I hear that we may be getting another dump of snow, or at least some significant precipitation. So all bets are off until I see what's actually going to happen.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on January 31, 2014, 11:00:37 AM
I took the cover off my car this morning. I wanted to start it and warm it up a bit. I left the battery in it when I
parked it last fall and had my small charger plugged in to maintain it. I just wish it was nice enough to take it
out for a spin.
Gotta make a list of stuff to get for it in Fla. If I'm lucky there might be wrecking yards in Orlando and Ft L.

RON
 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on January 31, 2014, 11:20:33 AM
I ordered the blower motor only for my G van,  pick that up tomorrow from Napa and I'll swap the cage , 45 F Sunday.

Ueah, non Cadillac project - oops !

CDV  bonk}


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 03, 2014, 04:58:42 PM

 I replaced the battery today on the '90 Brougham. I used the battery that was in the '94, so I think I'll have to get another at some point. But the engine spins over a lot easier.

 And, I finally got to the ECC control head and replaced that. It works like a charm, so I hope there are no more issues with the defroster when I need it most.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on February 04, 2014, 08:21:03 AM
When I replaced the battery in the wildcat I was amazed as to how much easier it started.   It wasn't just the turning over since it turned over fine before, but the ignition was so much stronger that it fired up much stronger.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 04, 2014, 08:49:49 AM

 The battery failed on the Brougham a few months ago, so I out the one in it that I took from the Eldo. It was 6 years old. It cranks the car fine when warm, but when the temps drop it cranks very slow. A couple of occasions it barely cranked at all, then went dead.

 It's bloody cold out there again today, so we'll see ho this battery cranks it.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 08, 2014, 12:01:05 PM

 So far so god with Vera. She started this morning no problems, even though it was -22. The defrost works every time.

 Now, for Victoria. She puked the rad out big time yesterday. Coolant is running out like a tap from the top of the left tank. For $hits and giggles I tried some stop leak, but I doubt that will have much of an effect.

 So, I ordered a rad from Rock Auto. Another aluminum/plastic affair. To my door is $230, but I have to wait until next week. I checked with Partscorce, $260 and they have to order it. Same Spectra rad.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on February 08, 2014, 07:14:44 PM
Did you order CU232 or CU706?  I found the e-mail from August 2010, and it seems that shipping may have increased significantly.  Do you still have the copper/brass radiator that was in the trunk?  Before it came out, it would leave a few drops on the ground after shutdown under the RH tank; the tank solder joint is oxidized in the upper-rear area.  If the LH plastic tank on the current rad happens to be intact (i.e. the gasket or core failed), it could be transferred to a 30.5" Delco aluminum core sitting around here to use as a spare.

Quote
1987 CADILLAC BROUGHAM 5.0L 307cid V8 4BBL (Y) OHV

 SPECTRA PREMIUM CU232 Radiator (8708.91.9900) May substitute alternate brand --
same quality & warranty
                           $  105.79  $    0.00     1       $  105.79
                        (CAD$  108.65) (CAD$    0.00)             (CAD$ 108.65)

                                                 Discount   $   -5.29
                                                           (CAD$   -5.43)
                Shipping            Ground (FedEx or UPS)   $   53.98
                                                          (CAD$  55.44)
                                    GST/HST (# 855114328)   $   13.85
                                                          (CAD$  14.22)
       RockAuto LLC, 6680 Odana Rd. Madison, WI 53719 USA
                                              Order Total   $  168.33
                                                          (CAD$  172.88)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 09, 2014, 08:19:47 AM

 I ordered the CU706. It seemed to be the better of the 2 listed by Spectra.



  Part Number Part Type Price EA Core EA Quantity Total
1987 CADILLAC BROUGHAM 5.0L 307cid V8 
SPECTRA PREMIUM / COOLING DEPOT CU706 Radiator (8708.91.9900) CAD$ 137.82 CAD$ 0.00 1 CAD$ 137.82
Shipping Ground CAD$ 71.95
GST/HST (GST/HST)   CAD$ 18.99
Order Total   CAD$ 228.76

 Yes, shipping has increased significantly over last year.

 I still have the rad you left in the trunk. However the core fins are literally crumbling. I put it in the shed at the cabin. It appears the left tank in this rad is still intact. I can investigate more when I remove it. We only need to use the car for 2 days this week, and I hope it arrives through the week so I can replace it next weekend.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on February 09, 2014, 12:27:23 PM
I think CU706 is technically the correct part for Victoria, since she is not equipped with the heavy duty cooling package (V03).   When I replaced the radiator in the 1988 Brougham, I used the heavy duty 3-core replacement, which required modifying the LH mounts to fit the wider tank.  The standard radiator has more than enough cooling capacity, but I usually prefer the HD units for the higher capacity transmission cooler; CU232 also happened to be cheaper, probably due to lower demand, as most Broughams were built with the standard cooling package.

That old copper/brass radiator appears to have been recored at some point, and a 3-core was fitted in place of the original 2-core.  Cooling capacity was never a problem, and I suspect even after shedding some more fins, it would still perform adequately.  You should have seen the original rad in the 1983 Delta 88!  Around 2002, I began noticing the temperature gauge climb at highway speeds on the hottest summer days; it would return to normal at idle.  The fan-side looked great, but after removing the upper shroud, I was shocked to discover most of the fins on the front had disappeared!  So, in 35 C weather with the A/C blasting away, a 20 year old radiator at maybe 50% of the original capacity was good enough to drive around without a boil-over.  The other revelation was that not much radiator capacity was needed at low speeds, at least with the 7-blade fan and HD clutch. 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 09, 2014, 03:57:13 PM
I would think that HD cooling would be a good idea if you have a cardboard 200. Am I right?

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 09, 2014, 05:58:21 PM

 If you are stressing it in any way, keeping it cooler is a good idea. However this car is not stressed at all so the standard cooling rad will be quite sufficient. However I did think of going with the HD rad, but replacing the rad under the circumstances I'm dealt, I wanted it to as painless an operation as possible. The potential for having to perform modifications is not greatly welcome.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 11, 2014, 09:50:19 AM

 It looks like I will have it in time for the weekend.      whoo/hoo

 
Tracking Number:258521660769632

Destination Address:Kitchener, ON, CA

Estimated Arrival:February-12-14

Tracking history


11/02/2014 7:36 AM SYRACUSE, NY 13209, US Departed FedEx location
10/02/2014 11:04 PM SYRACUSE, NY 13209, US Arrived at FedEx location
10/02/2014 7:47 PM BUFFALO, NY 14211, US Left FedEx origin facility
10/02/2014 5:51 PM BUFFALO, NY 14211, US Arrived at FedEx location
10/02/2014 2:33 PM BUFFALO, NY 14211, US In transit

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on February 11, 2014, 10:28:59 AM
excellent.
What a fantastic time to do the job!

Tegan is going to be taking her G2 driving test later this week and the truck is by far the best vehicle for her right now. I'm getting a wee bit of cold feet about what they'll think of the rust holes in the front bumper.  I'm going to check out a replacement bumper at Earl's autoparts this afternoon. They said it was no good, so I'd be able to get it cheap,  I just need to see if it's better than mine.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 11, 2014, 10:46:53 AM

 Yeah, I always like working on the car outside in the winter. But it's a relatively straightforward and I'll get bundled up. I hope to be able to do it on Friday. I have a 4-day weekend coming up.

 Well if the bumper IS better, that will be a bit less of a straightforward job. I bet everything is rusted quite solid under there. Best arm yourself with some new fasteners.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on February 11, 2014, 02:12:25 PM
If the lower hose is pulled to drain the system, it'll probably be a half hour job or less; these have to be among the easiest to swap.  The transmission line nuts should be free.

Jon, how about applying some hockey tape along the black part of the bumper?  :)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on February 11, 2014, 02:49:57 PM

Jon, how about applying some hockey tape along the black part of the bumper?  :)
Now that's thinking  :D


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 11, 2014, 03:11:24 PM
I was going to suggest duct tape.
 A friend of mine has a big hole in the front bumper of his Honda, he put duct tape over it and it has held up quite well.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 11, 2014, 05:26:08 PM
There. I guess hockey is good for one thing.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 12, 2014, 08:26:02 AM

 The rad just arrived!  whoo/hoo

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on February 12, 2014, 10:05:11 AM
Cool!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on February 12, 2014, 11:47:26 AM
Cool!

Literally!  ;D


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on February 12, 2014, 01:21:37 PM
  ;)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 12, 2014, 06:41:30 PM

 It's going to be a balmy -4 on Friday, so the shorts and the rad are at the ready.   $sun$

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 14, 2014, 12:42:25 PM

 Radiator-----DONE!   bananna'

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on February 14, 2014, 01:00:52 PM
Was the old CU232 unit leaking from the core header on the upper left side, where there was previous evidence of seepage?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on February 14, 2014, 02:59:23 PM
No pics?!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 15, 2014, 07:39:35 AM

 No. Didn't bother. Just a routine job. It went very well, took about an hour. The new rad fit like a glove.

 Now there is lots of heat again. Man, the heater in that thing is like a furnace! The last car that would cook you out like that was my '85 Caprice. You could cook a roast on the floor.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on February 15, 2014, 10:42:33 AM
Right, like my blower motor R&R , nonetheless  this particular topic of yours ...........

 worth/less

We got hammered yesterday, 12" of snow. They called off the ice fishing derby for tomorrow.  Last year it was Feb. 9th and we had a blizzard that day so it got pushed ahead one week.

CDV  <lol>


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on February 25, 2014, 05:41:08 PM
I FOUND THE HOOD LATCH BAR AND ASSOCIATED HARDWARE THAT I HAD LOST (MISPLACED APPARENTLY)!! YES I AM TYPING IN ALL CAPS ON PURPOSE BECAUSE I AM YELLING THIS OUT LOUD!

It is a ridiculously complicated assembly of parts to tie three parts together and hold the hood down. I was not looking forward to bodging something together as a replacement.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on February 25, 2014, 06:31:10 PM
Good show,   now the trick will be to put it on the car before you lose it again.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on February 25, 2014, 07:09:54 PM
I've been SO careful with everything, stored in boxes in individual bags with tags. This one part, I wanted to check and see if it was correct since it seemed so overly complicated, and I took it home and checked in the diagrams I have. I determined that it is correct and then had a few too many vodkas and forgot where I left it. hahah I woke up at 3am last night/this morning and the entire memory of the whole event was right there.

It was in a box where it would have eventually been found. A box of paint supplies I haven't used yet.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on February 25, 2014, 07:49:07 PM
All packed and ready to go. Tomorrow I will be in the land of cheap rum and warm sun.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on February 25, 2014, 08:10:48 PM
Have a good trip Joe.
You are going for 1 week, right ? Will you be checking in on the status of the other '38 or wait 'til you get back ?
 

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 26, 2014, 06:43:59 AM

 Well I'm glad you found all the hood hardware!!

 I can say I have done the same, then had one of those eureka moments. It is a good feeling indeed when you finally remember.

 And, another trip to Cuba? Wow. Good timing since we're being plunged into yet another deep freeze.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on February 26, 2014, 06:30:42 PM
When I did the strip down and repaint for Chester, I was lucky.  The only stuff I lost was a bag of trim screws for the wheel well mouldings. I was able to pick up a bunch of news ones from a wrecker.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Blazin on March 03, 2014, 10:50:00 AM
Maybe not specifically today but I have been working on my eldo for at least a month and a half to get it ready for Lake George NY.
 It had a broken rocker cover bolt, cracked exhaust crossover on the intake and cracked exhaust manifolds.I took the entire top end of the motor off and decided to paint it Cadillac blue.
 Today I am working the last few accessories I need to paint. Namely the fan, spacer and rocker covers. I plan on sanding and priming today.
Here are a couple photo's.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 03, 2014, 10:57:30 AM

 Good to hear from you Blazin!

 So how did you repair the intake and exhaust manifolds? Or did you replace them? I know it's a common issue with these engines.

 It's all looking good! It'll run and sound like a champ when done.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Blazin on March 03, 2014, 11:23:51 AM
Ya I had a spares kicking around.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on March 03, 2014, 11:25:38 AM
Hi Blazin

What does the exterior of your Eldo look like?  I'm guessing it's a titch older than mine :)

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Blazin on March 03, 2014, 06:39:05 PM
Here she is in all her glory lol. She needs a lot of tlc but its still a 1 of 1450 made so I'll slowly pick away at it.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on March 03, 2014, 06:46:09 PM
NICE!

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 03, 2014, 09:18:26 PM

 Beauty!! I love the colour.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on March 03, 2014, 09:35:39 PM

 Beauty!! I love the colour.

 Mike

'Cause you're "green" with envy?   :poke: =rofl=

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 04, 2014, 10:54:02 AM
Nice!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 04, 2014, 11:09:57 AM

 Beauty!! I love the colour.

 Mike

'Cause you're "green" with envy?   :poke: =rofl=

Sam

 Yeah!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Blazin on March 04, 2014, 02:12:31 PM
For the record I am not a fan of the colour. It has been repainted from pinehurst green and the top was black from the factory.
 I didn't get much done day except painting the fan and power steering pump cap.I dropped of the rocker covers and air cleaner to be sandblasted. Every little bit counts.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 04, 2014, 10:37:04 PM

 Yep, every little bit counts. One step closer to the final product.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 16, 2014, 08:34:50 AM
I finally finished repairing the door panels for my Eldorado and they look pretty good. All I need now is some
decent weather so I can put them back on the car along with the dash pad. I'm glad I took the dash pad out
in the fall. I think if I had left it in the car, those really cold days would have split it wide open like the one I
had in there last year. It split in the middle from windsheild all the way to the front edge of the pad.
I may not be able to repair it but if I can there will probably be a very visible scar.

RON
 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 16, 2014, 09:42:13 AM

 Good go!

 I'm just waiting for some decent weather so that I can do anything!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 16, 2014, 09:47:19 AM
I think we all are.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 16, 2014, 10:41:30 AM

  -yes-

 I guess only the lucky few have a place where they can do stuff inside.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 16, 2014, 11:35:49 AM
I think I'll ask Tony if I can use a bay in his shop on a slow day. I'm sure he'd say OK.
Today would be a great day to take the car out for a spin. It's sunny and the streets are dry but I'm not
going to take it out with no door panels or dash pad.
Any other year that I've had this car I'd be using it regularly already but this winter I've only started it once
to warm it up back in January. If I took the covers off the car I'd never get them back on because it's been
so windy the whole time. This winter realy sucks.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 16, 2014, 02:20:33 PM

 But the roads a still white with salt.  *yikes*

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 16, 2014, 02:42:54 PM
There may a little dust about but as long it's isn't wet what's to worry ? Besides I had the underside washed and under coated last year. Tony did the wheel wells, the entire floor pan and inside the rocker panels. A little bit of
dry dust isn't going to hurt anything. It's the sloppy, salt laden, wet slushy mush that sticks to everything that you
don't want on your car.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 16, 2014, 03:27:05 PM

 Then you should be fine.

 I had a look see under Vicky and Vera the other day, and both are still juicy wet with Krown. So they are well protected.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 22, 2014, 08:33:10 PM
Today was the first day I could get the cover off Chester since the ice storms. I didn't have quite enough juice the in the battery to start so I hooked up the trickle charger.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on March 22, 2014, 08:58:49 PM
I'll be pressure washing the entire underside and engine bay soon. I drove it around a bit early AND it has dust all over from the sanding still. It's nice to look in the garage and see it sitting there. It's strange to not have 1,000 little things to do to it.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 01, 2014, 10:23:01 AM
Yesterday was a beauty so I put the dash pad and the repaired door panels back in the Eldorado. Looking good !
This morning I went down to see my friend Tony to pay him for the brake job on my Caliber. Stopped in for a
car wash two blocks from his shop. Somewhere there I cut a tire and down she went. Took it off and there is
a gash on the inside sidewall about 3" long. Taking that baby spare out of the trunk is a pain but it got me to
my tire shop. New tire -$120. Hankook Mileage Plus II 215/R70-15 white wall.
The real struggle is to put the spare back in the trunk.

RON

 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 01, 2014, 12:27:25 PM

 Bummer. Bad luck that is in the first drive of the season.

 I agree, the tire and jack are a pain to pull out and put back in.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 01, 2014, 01:40:44 PM
I drove it the two blocks to his shop and he changed it for me but I had to take the spare out myself.
I also put the flat in the trunk too. One thing I noticed is that it's not as heavy when there's no air in it.  <lol>

I went down there the long way so I could get the car out for it's first highway run of the season so I 'm glad
it didn't go down on the Red Hill Expressway.  

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 01, 2014, 01:51:11 PM
They are even lighter when you fill them with helium.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 01, 2014, 01:57:02 PM

 35 lbs less to be exact.   =rofl=

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 01, 2014, 03:56:47 PM

 Speaking of which, I heavied up the tires on Victoria, checked the levels (all good) and am now all packed and heading off to the cabin for a few days!

 Just waiting for Maureen to get home and we're gone!

  whoo/hoo

 Mikw


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 01, 2014, 06:59:01 PM
Got to love the first taste of the season!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 02, 2014, 07:40:03 AM
Bad news-

Went pick up the new tire just now. Hankook doesn't do it in a whitewall any more and don't have any in stock.
Gonna have to call around now to see if any other tire store has one.
They can get my tire in a BW but 3 whites and 1 black isn't going to look very nice. They can give me a different
brand of tire with the same WW but with another name, tread pattern and sidewall lettering on it. That becomes mismatching, something that I don't care to do.
These tires were brand new a year ago this past January and I'm sure there wasn't even 1,000 miles on them yet.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 02, 2014, 09:13:38 AM
I called all the major tire shops in the city and that tire new cannot be had, but I may have lucked out.
Tirecraft in Stoney Creek said they had a 205-70/R15 which is about a 1/4" narrower than the 215
that would work for $107 but later called back saying he found a used one exactly like the old tire
with 80% rubber left for $50.  Done deal. Will go in the morning to get it.

RON bananna'





Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on April 02, 2014, 12:52:55 PM
GOOD on you for finding the tire!

Now I know where the term comes from "Heavier than air."

Enjoy the cottage Mike.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 02, 2014, 01:52:44 PM
Sadly WW tires are becoming nearly impossible to find.
 I spent 2 weeks last year looking for WW in 235/70/15's for my 94.
 My only options were Vogue (made in China so no way) Diamondback or Coker and they were way too expensive.
So I'm stuck with ugly black walls.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 02, 2014, 02:12:08 PM
Vogue Tires were once a special Cadillac tire were they not ? They had a WW plus that gold ring and the were
a premium tire. Now they're Chinese ? What's this world coming to ?

Everyone I spoke to this morning said that no body makes WW's anymore, black walls are the norm now.
Unfortunately some cars just don't look right with BW's and my Eldorado is one of them. White walls will
make a comeback. They made cars without chrome trim several years back didn't they and chrome is
trim is now back in style, so too will WW tires.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 02, 2014, 02:40:00 PM
15 inch wheels are no longer the norm, I only see them getting more expensive and specialized.
 Want WW's? They will have to be custom made. The market pretty much only exists with the collector's.

If they are to make a comeback then low profile tires will need to fall out of style. I'm not holding my breath just yet.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on April 03, 2014, 05:57:12 AM
Big wheels and rubber bands are the big thing now. Why buy a luxury car and have it ride like a one stack Mack?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on April 03, 2014, 09:13:24 AM
Big wheels and rubber bands are the big thing now. Why buy a luxury car and have it ride like a one stack Mack?

Most luxury car buyers are more concerned about how others perceive their car selection instead of what they find to be comfortable and stylish transportation, which means they look to various media or their circle of friends to make up their minds.  Many car journalists (those who believe they are race car drivers) are locked in a battle to show off their "skill" so they generally praise quick slalom figures, high lateral Gs, etc. all of which benefit from low aspect ratio rubber that wears out in 10,000 miles.   The designers also like rubber bands because it helps to fill-out wheelwells (using the rim instead of whitewalls) and approximates that "concept car" look.  Avoid run-flat tires like the plague; they add to the rubber band misery.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 03, 2014, 09:55:04 AM
Got the tire(s) this morning but it didn't work out how I thought it would. He went down and got the tire but it
turned out to be a 205-75/R 15 instead of 215-70/R 15 but he had 2 0f them. Not exactly what I wanted
but at least they are the same manufacturer so I bought both for $110 balanced and installed. They even
had the same amount of tread wear as what was already on the car. I kept the lone 215 and will stash
away. I might need it one day.
I don't think the 205 is quite as tall as the 215 so I'm going to do a front to back swap and give those new tires a good scrubbing.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 03, 2014, 07:09:46 PM
The 205/75 will be taller than the 215/70.  The radius will be 3.25 mm larger therefor the car will sit 3.25 mm higher (overall diameter 6.5 mm larger). If you have them on the front, your speedo will only be off by 1%


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 03, 2014, 08:06:03 PM
That's OK.  I don't usually pay too much attention to my speed anyway. I just go with the flow.

RON



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 03, 2014, 09:52:22 PM
I'd be impressed if your speedo was within 1% of accuracy anyway.  I know the roadmaster shows closer to 4% fast.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 04, 2014, 04:47:00 AM
Years ago with the old cable driven speedos someone said they could be out be as much as 5 or 6 mph at 60.
That's why the cops never busted you for 5 or 10 over. I don't know how accurate electronic speedos are now.
Back in 1965, I think it was, four of us went to the first Super Stock Nationals drag race in York Pennsylvania.
Our driver had a '63 Chevy ragtop wih a 409 engine and a 4 speed. In Pennsylvania, on a 2 lane road, we were
the last car in a long line and the the only one with Canadian plates on it. A local cop from some small town we
were about to enter pulled out of the bushes in a '65 Ford Galaxie 500 4 door HT cruiser and accused us of
speeding, which was BS. He said we were doing 60 in a 40 zone.
We had to follow him to the "town hall" to pay our fine. The town hall turned out to be an old house trailer with an actual courtroom in it and some old fart was the judge. I think the fine was only $25 or so but we had a hard time
coming up with the cash. Later that day we saw a state trooper at a gas station and were talking to him and told
him what happened to us. He followed us back onto the highway and we compared speeds and our speed was no
different than his. The trooper also said that that town was nortorious for nabbing so called "speeders".

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 04, 2014, 03:17:23 PM

 Just got back. had a good relaxing time. Still lots of snow, but we managed to get in. I got a lot of pics. I'll select some and post later.

 Victoria performed well, but the TCC kinda takes a lot out of the drive. Gotta fix that. It lugs down too low, then jerks into the next lowest gear on hills and corners.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 04, 2014, 03:22:23 PM
Sound like the same problem I'm having, however it doesn't happen very often.
 The CEL comes on when it decides to stop working.
I also noticed that the cruise control won't engage when it happens, coincidence?

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 04, 2014, 03:27:37 PM

 The CEL usually will not come on when the TCC acts up. It's purely an electro-mechanical issue and not monitored by the ECM. The ECM will monitor the CC, but I don't know if it will set a hard code causing the CEL to come on. I think there is one code, 62, for CC malfunction.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on April 04, 2014, 06:27:32 PM
There are some DTCs which will inhibit TCC lockup once they are triggered so help reduce engine load in a limp-home sense; my guess this is what might be happening on the '82.  There's a DTC for excessive viscous converter clutch (VCC) slippage on the 4.9s (possibly including the port-injected 4.5s), and even updated PCM calibrations to address false triggering.  On some later cars with an ISS (Input Shaft Speed) sensor in the transmission (more precise than approximating slippage RPM by using the output shaft speed signal, the computer is able to monitor slippage (by comparing this RPM to engine RPM) and will trigger a P0741 or similar when the TCC slippage remains above a predetermined level while it is commanded 'On'.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 05, 2014, 06:55:29 AM

 Ah, but you'll find none of that on the comparatively primitive HT4100.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on April 05, 2014, 10:52:26 AM
That's why we need to find out which DTC(s) is (are) triggered (causing the CEL event) and see which one is responsible for disabling TCC operation.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 05, 2014, 10:53:46 AM

 I'm going to pop over there later. Maybe we can pull any codes and go from there.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 07, 2014, 04:28:42 PM

 Whaddaya think?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on April 07, 2014, 04:35:40 PM
Nice!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 07, 2014, 04:39:18 PM

 To be proper, they should have the wreaths. And I have to pull the baskets off behind them before they fit on. I just wanted a look see. These are some of my favourite Cadillac wheel discs.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on April 07, 2014, 05:20:14 PM
I've always liked the appearance of the standard or optional turbine vane wheelcovers!  I don't know if this applies to this particular design, but in some cases, the plastic vane insert has a tendency to come loose; these wouldn't be the best choice for a driver.  The standard wire-wheel disc is probably lighter, and it has a positive retention mechanism (lock), so you don't need to worry about losing one after hitting a pothole.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 07, 2014, 06:05:38 PM
Yes. The turbine bitwillcome loose. One is loose now. However just pick7ng them up they are not too heavy. Add the baskets and the lock nuts of the wire covers and I bet they are heavier.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on April 07, 2014, 07:04:10 PM
The '80-'87 turbine vanes (standard on Fleetwood Broughams from '80-'86, optional on the '87 Brougham) are noticeably heavier even accounting for the lugs and lock plate.  Yours (late '70s DeVille d'Elegance?) has a smaller vane portion and lacks the large, cast centre ring of the later design.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 07, 2014, 07:12:36 PM
Go with what you like.  You know that I have a stack of those as spares since I got the ones off Geoff. If you ever loose the vanes, I got you covered. 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 07, 2014, 10:21:33 PM
Notice any difference??   =rofl=



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on April 07, 2014, 10:58:47 PM
The antlers transformed into wipers?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 08, 2014, 09:30:48 AM
The antlers transformed into wipers?

 =rofl= =rofl= =rofl=

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 08, 2014, 10:07:10 AM

  6chin6

 But I can say that was one mucky Cadillac.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 09, 2014, 09:07:22 AM
And you did that with a spray bottle and some clean towels, right ?

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 09, 2014, 09:25:48 AM
And you did that with a spray bottle and some clean towels, right ?

RON

uh, well, no  shake/head

DCC is exempt from the spray bottle routine.  The 06 is my daily driver and we live 4 kms from hardtop.

One of the reasons I use a spray bottle on the classics is our well has very hard water.  It leaves white "scum" behind, so it's actually easier to use a spray bottle with R/O water, than to pour hose water all over the car and then immediately try to dry it off before the scum shows.  I had to clean the windows on the DCC after I washed the car due to all the white spots.

Beautiful day out there :-)  Enjoy!   $sun$

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 09, 2014, 09:29:42 AM

 I'd love to spend the day outside, but work today predisposes that I'm inside slugging on a bus. But the weekend looks to be really nice.

 Getting the '94 Fleetwood out this weekend? I hope!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 09, 2014, 01:05:21 PM
Let me know what's going on with that. Your behind me and I want to get mine as well.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 09, 2014, 05:07:08 PM
I'll send Steve a text.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 09, 2014, 05:28:10 PM
He won't be around Saturday. Also he says that there is still a lot of ice build up in
front of the door. But he will be off Sunday, so maybe it would have cleared enough by then.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 10, 2014, 02:57:41 PM
If we go Sunday it will have to be before noon.
 It's nice and warm out now, what little snow that is left should be gone by Saturday.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 10, 2014, 05:32:37 PM
We tried to start the '81, but not even a cabin light came on.  We tried the trickle charger, but the battery wouldn't take the charge, so I called the local garage for a house call.  They gave me a loaner battery, and carted the old one off to take the dimensions (loaner isn't "quite" right) and order me a new one along with new lifters for the hood and trunk.  Seeing as the tank was low, I had a great excuse to get out and took "Cali" out for her 1st run since last October.  Put over 35 miles on just having fun.   whoo/hoo



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 10, 2014, 07:17:38 PM
Nice!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on April 10, 2014, 07:20:48 PM

 I'd love to spend the day outside, but work today predisposes that I'm inside slugging on a bus. But the weekend looks to be really nice.

 Getting the '94 Fleetwood out this weekend? I hope!

 Mike

I beat all you guys last weekend out of the garage, all must be losing it. Turning wrenches already ......... LOL

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 10, 2014, 10:46:50 PM

 Losing it? Nah, I don't think so. Just anxious. I'll be playing in the garage on Saturday. Tomorrow I have to get off my ass and go and pick up that motor so I can get that compressor going. I'll run some air tools just to make some noise.

 I envy you Sam. But hopefully Sunday I'll be driving Joan again. But it's supposed to rain which takes some of the fun out of it. Monday is a washout, temps will be plummeting to below freezing again.

 However, I do have to consider myself lucky in being able to drive 2 old Cadillacs over the winter. Aside from rampant oil stains on the body, I think they both came through that nasty winter pretty good.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on April 10, 2014, 11:08:57 PM
I had to service my van for my trip next weekend,  had no choice and needed use of my garage,  be gone for three months. Finish the 26 hearse interior walnut woodwork and some construction work down in NJ. Special forces have been called in.

Joe beat us all, rebuilt his 38 and he's already out tooling around.

CDV





Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 11, 2014, 01:48:38 PM
Sam, do you disconnect the battery when your storing your car?
 Once a battery goes completely flat there is very little chance that it will take a charge.

My 82 came through the winter pretty good but there are some issues that I need to take care of.
 Back in Dec. I slid off the road into the rose bush in front of the house and broke the grille. I also have a few surface rust spots but they will sand off easily. I can paint them in the driveway and wet sand them after the paint cures.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 11, 2014, 02:14:15 PM
I don't normally remove the battery from anything except the lawn mower.  In a NORMAL winter, the cars are on the road every 4-6 weeks for about 20 miles.  In a NORMAL winter the snow melts, the sun comes out, the road dries up and I go cruising.  I've now learned about taking about the battery - the hard way.  The garage confirms what you said; the battery doesn't want to take a charge.  I have no idea of the age of the battery, either, but no matter, it's dead.  They have given me a loaner battery which I used to get out and cruise yesterday.  I've known these guys over 20 years, and they treat me like gold.

Sun's out - and that's where I should head!!

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 11, 2014, 02:24:57 PM
4-6 weeks is too long to let it sit without disconnecting the battery. There is always a parasitic drain.
 The battery won't last more than 2 weeks on my 82 however the 94 will shut off all power drains after 30 days, but I still remove the negative cable when storing it.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 11, 2014, 02:27:10 PM
Hmm, did not know that.   -uh-

Don't tell the '57 tho - she started with no trickle or boost (shhh).

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 11, 2014, 05:10:24 PM
You can buy cable clamps with a shut off. All you need to do is turn the thumb wheel and the battery is discinnected. You may also want to consider a battery tender. Once the battery is dead, it will freeze and then it is no good.

 The parasitic drainon 80's Cadillacs ranges from about 20 mA to about 50 mA. That will kill the battery in a cojple of weeks.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 11, 2014, 06:37:25 PM
I didn't bother pulling my battery out this year, instead I hooked up a trickle charger.
I let it run for a week then unplugged it for a week. When it got really cold I just kept
it plugged in. Battery is fine.

RON 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 11, 2014, 09:45:15 PM
I didn't bother pulling my battery out this year, instead I hooked up a trickle charger.
I let it run for a week then unplugged it for a week. When it got really cold I just kept
it plugged in. Battery is fine.

RON 

Now THAT seems like a good solution to me - thanks Ron   bow/down

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 12, 2014, 09:13:48 AM

 Yes, a trickle charger can be used, but you have to keep an eye on it.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 12, 2014, 09:28:22 AM

 I just opened the Canadian Tire flyer. Yesterday they had these smart chargers on sale for $40.

 http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motomaster-eliminator-intelligent-battery-charger-12-8-2a-0111518p.html#.U0lM_WdOUYw

 But this one would likely work very well for you.

 http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motomaster-eliminator-intelligent-battery-charger-2a-0111506p.html#.U0lNK2dOUYw

 And they carry the real deal Battery Tender too. This one you can leave connected all the time and not worry about it.

 http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/battery-tender-plus-1-25a-charger-maintainer-0111941p.html#.U0lNaGdOUYw

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on April 12, 2014, 10:29:11 AM
Too bad CT doesn't carry something like this for $10.  I've heard they go on sale for $5.

http://www.harborfreight.com/automatic-battery-float-charger-42292.html

Looks like someone in Brantford is selling them for $15:

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-tool-other/brantford/battery-float-charger/575483884?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

Where possible, I use a cigarette lighter adapter and leave the connector hanging under one of the doors.  Trickle/float charging requires much less than 2 amps (usually under 1), which is well within the rating of the 20 A Body fuse.  This way an accurate battery voltage reading can be made (at rest for 24 hours, without triggering any loads from courtesy lamps, etc.), and the charger can be connected without opening the bonnet.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 13, 2014, 02:38:34 PM
Today was a bonus day. It was supposed to rain, but that did not materialise.

 So, I got to playing with the carb on Victoria. I set the idle mixture. Smooth as silk now. Then got at the choke. It was not coming off, so I looked into that. Lots of vacuum through the circuit. Cool. So then I looked at the stat. No rivetts, so it can be adjusted. I set it to 2 notches left of index, which put the choke off, but tension just as you pushed on the flap.

 Took her for a little drive to pick up some RPA, qnd smooth as silk. It'w really nice to be able to play with these little things in comfortable temperatures!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on April 13, 2014, 04:43:46 PM
M/C duty cycle was roughly in the 60-70% range (by design, above the original 50% target) at both idle and part-throttle.  Looks like the air cleaner housing lid shrunk a bit!  :)  Without ThermAC, the cooler inlet air doesn't vapourise the fuel as well; it was probably down in the 50-60% range at idle or lower, so it doesn't surprise me that a little idle screw adjustment improved matters.  It might be a good idea to see what the idle to part-throttle M/C duty cycle balance is after this adjustment.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 13, 2014, 05:32:16 PM
I actually used my CTC Eliminator Intelligent charger. I like it better than my bigger unit. It has an auto shut off

once the battery is done. I also have a trickle one but didn't use it even though I said I did.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 13, 2014, 06:02:48 PM
I am doing this on Pam s IPad mini. It's worse than the computer.
                                   
The ten year old Dell has gone Kaputski. Still waiting to from Joe about getting a new one. a new hard drive is
$800 but they have a couple of 3 year old off lease government machines for $200 but I'm not comfortable
doing that. What do you guys suggest I do ?
The Dell is now in a permanent state of " not responding". I can still do emails etc but can't get on the internet
any more and can't stay in touch with the club.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 14, 2014, 08:26:17 AM

 Mixture adjustments are made with the air cleaner assembly off, so there is no difference in how it is set with the open element. Maybe at some point I can check the MC duty cycle and see where it is.

 I put that smaller air cleaner lid on for summer service, but I think I'll put the standard one back on given that there is the cold air tube.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 14, 2014, 02:36:50 PM
Perhaps we should have got our 94's out of storage yesterday. -yes- Soon I hope.
 After looking at that pic I now know what that noise was on Saturday. Rushing air into the intake.

Ron, anyone that tries to charge you $800 for a hard drive is someone you should never do business with.
 You should be able to buy a 4 TB drive for about $200 and that is more memory than you will ever use.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 14, 2014, 02:38:48 PM

 Steve will be there on Friday. That will work just fine. Maureen will be able to come with us.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 14, 2014, 02:48:45 PM
Cool, I can't wait. bananna' bananna' bananna'

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on April 14, 2014, 02:52:01 PM
Perhaps we should have got our 94's out of storage yesterday. -yes- Soon I hope.
 After looking at that pic I now know what that noise was on Saturday. Rushing air into the intake.

Ron, anyone that tries to charge you $800 for a hard drive is someone you should never do business with.
 You should be able to buy a 4 TB drive for about $200 and that is more memory than you will ever use.

GJ

Right, I can buy a 1TB hard drive for $ 100 at Staples.

My four year old HP $ 600 computer died last August. A lemon model of sorts with AMD micro processor and the MB failed.

My new HP has the Intel I-5 micro processor, 6 GB of ram and I TB hard drive for $ 500 and it has Windows 7. In the market for a laptop soon, after my research I want a 17" screen and Windows 7. Toshiba is the brand I'll buy.

I was leery of getting involved in this discussion but for my needs after five years my computers are under powered and out dated, can't handle the software I use.

Ronnie, you can buy an HP computer for $ 300 that is X 10 better than what you have now. I pull the hard drive for security reasons and save the optical drive. I have my own computer bone yard here after 15 years.

CDV  cheers%





Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 14, 2014, 03:07:54 PM

 A few years ago I bought a laptop. It has completely displaced my desktop. I never use it at all anymore.

 They can be had relatively cheap. Mine is an Acer and it works very well. Plus you have the added benefit of taking it around the house to wherever you want to use it, provided your modem has wifi.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on April 14, 2014, 03:22:52 PM
I need a backup unit and I can use the laptop for the OBD software.  17" screen doesn't cost much more than the 15" screen.

Concerned about getting it before they don't offer Windows 7 but I'm going away for three months, might order it and have it shipped to NJ where I'll be. Windows 8 / 8.1 is a total fubar and software doesn't work with it.  Touch screen is for a tablet not a desk top.

Now I know you can plug in your big screen monitor to your laptop.

What I'm getting with my selected upgrades :

http://www.toshiba.com/us/computers/laptops/satellite/C70/C70-ABT3N12

Great we can read reviews of the products, Toshiba has what I want in a laptop and the reviews are very good.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 14, 2014, 04:09:54 PM

 I'm running 7 on the laptop. It works well. But 8 is all the rage. Meghan has a laptop with it and she loves it, but you really need to refine/modify/relearn using the computer with that.

 I don't know if you can turn off the touch screen or not.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on April 14, 2014, 04:18:18 PM
I have E Signal real time data for my trading. Thought I was stuck with Windows 8 and everything I read it was horrible.

Checked with E Signal tech support for computer requirements and was told good luck with Windows 8, we can't get it work so you'll be on your own, maybe Windows 9 they'll get it right. HP still offered Windows 7 custom built so I dodged a bullet.

The problem with all MS new operating platforms is your old software is not compatible and it won't work. Every other platform they introduce sucks then they fix it.

Hey Bill Gates, your company sucks ........

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 14, 2014, 04:30:48 PM

 What was that last one like that, Millenia? It was a real POS. Then they fixed it with XP.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on April 14, 2014, 04:46:00 PM
I had Windows ME after XP - it sucked. Never had Vista though, another suck job MS platform.

If my new computer I bought last August had Windows 8 I'd likely be wearing a straight jacket by now.

Most corporations have still been using Windows XP because ME and Vista sucked so they kept using XP, but they won't support that platform anymore like right around now so they will have to upgrade to something else.

Windows 7 works fine for me. Maybe Windows 9 they'll get their act together. Why in the hell would I want a touch screen on my 23" monitor ? Touch screen is for a tablet not a desktop or a laptop IMO.

Not as if we haven't seen stupid technology they try to jamb down our throats with cars either that didn't work out too well and they had to sh*t can it until they figured out how to make it work reliably and dependably.

CDV  eh%





Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 14, 2014, 05:51:43 PM

 I think they are looking at the popularity of tablet, and are trying to give the same experience. However it's like putting racing wheels on a transit bus. No point and it won't work with many applications.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on April 14, 2014, 08:06:06 PM
Right, I have a desk top with a 23" monitor. If I wanted a tablet / touchscreen I would buy one of those.

Soon I'll have a laptop with Windows 7 and no touch screen. You don't mash two different functions into one product and expect the other one to work as it should.

So some companies like HP brought Windows 7 back " by popular demand " because their sales volume was decimated by Windows 8.

I got your Windows 8 / 8.1 right here Bill Gates.

CDV



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on April 15, 2014, 08:26:06 AM
Microsoft Abandons Windows 8.1: Take Immediate Action Or Be Cut Off Like Windows XP

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/04/15/microsoft-abandons-windows-8-1-take-immediate-action-or-be-cut-off-like-windows-xp/?partner=yahootix

CDV  =rofl=


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 15, 2014, 02:03:45 PM
Windows 98 was good, ME- bad, XP- good, Vista- bad, 7- good........... get where I'm going with this?
 If one is good then avoid the next one. I had ME and it sucked, then I upgraded to XP and it was great. I love 7 and won't even think about touching 8. I might even buy a mac next time around. No need for Microsoft then.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 15, 2014, 02:23:19 PM
I talked to MDG. Computers about a new machine. They will custom build one for me for $550. That includes
moving any files we want to keep. The price is right but is this a good thing to do ?
I should have asked if they put in all new parts or parts from old use machines.
I read about you guys talking computers all the time but no one has given me your opinions. How about it guys ?
I'm not going to do anything though until I talk to Joe but I want other opinions as well.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 15, 2014, 02:33:32 PM
Something tells me that Joe would know best, unless Kevin wants to give you advice.
 Having a computer custom built with all the good components you want is the best way to go.
Stay away from the pre built  off the shelf stuff. If you know a good technician just tell him what you want from your machine and go from there. $550 for a computer is a pretty cheap price. Make sure there aren't any hidden costs, like upgraded software. Get the "out the door" price.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on April 15, 2014, 02:45:09 PM
There are much cheaper ways to ditch Micro$oft than buying a Mac - Ubuntu is free. :)  I liked the sound of the $200 off-lease equipment, but would need to know more about the hardware and the usage requirements.  General browsing and e-mail don't require the latest and greatest.  I always look for the quietest computer cases and large cooling fans that run at low RPM.  Solid State Drives (SSDs) speed things up noticeably, and if cost is a concern, a small one just for the operating system files is an option. 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 15, 2014, 05:40:18 PM
We have been using Superior Computers for MANY year, but I'm not sure if they have a store near year.  We normally have our computers built to spec.  They ask a lot of questions, and then build (all new parts) what we need.  Bruce recently bought a computer for work and spent under $800 - and he needs far fancier stuff than you will.  They always move our old info to the new system.  If you need a basic model laptop and don't play games, burn CDs, download TV programs, then $550 plus tax sounds about right to me.

My 2 cents.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 15, 2014, 08:22:16 PM
Just heard from Joe. He is going to see his computer shop friend in the morning and will ask his
him about building a machine for me. I'll also go to MDG and Staples and talk to them.
Joe is off to Cuba again this weekend for 2 weeks.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 15, 2014, 08:46:47 PM

 Cool. He'll get you a deal.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 20, 2014, 10:12:55 AM

 Spring has officially sprung. Joan is on the prowl again.  ;D

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 20, 2014, 10:21:26 AM
 whoo/hoo  whoo/hoo  -yes-  $sun$


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 20, 2014, 10:50:25 AM
Unfortunately Joe didn't get back to me about the computer so I'm going to do it on my own.
I will get one of the custom built desktop towers from MDG Computers for $499 +tax.
Just for the hell of it and if anyone cares here are the specs.

Intel Dual Core G2030 CPU 3GHz, 3MB Cache
MSI H61M-P31/W8 Motherboard socket 1155
Intel H61 Chipset
4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz RAM
Integrated Graphics Processor (PCIE Slot)
1 D-Sub (VGA Port), 1 HDMI Port
Realtek ALC887 audio codec
High Definition Audio
6 USB 2.0/1.1 Ports
1TB Western Digital 7200RPM SATA Hard drive
LG DVD reader/writer (dual layer)
Gigacase PA809 mid tower case Black (4USB)
OTATX3 350 watt power supply
Microsoft Windows 8
1 year Parts & Labour Warranty

I have no idea what most of that means, but to those of you who, whaddaya think ? Any good ?

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on April 20, 2014, 10:58:20 AM
Unfortunately Joe didn't get back to me about the computer so I'm going to do it on my own.
I will get one of the custom built desktop towers from MDG Computers for $499 +tax.
Just for the hell of it and if anyone cares here are the specs.

Intel Dual Core G2030 CPU 3GHz, 3MB Cache
MSI H61M-P31/W8 Motherboard socket 1155
Intel H61 Chipset
4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz RAM
Integrated Graphics Processor (PCIE Slot)
1 D-Sub (VGA Port), 1 HDMI Port
Realtek ALC887 audio codec
High Definition Audio
6 USB 2.0/1.1 Ports
1TB Western Digital 7200RPM SATA Hard drive
LG DVD reader/writer (dual layer)
Gigacase PA809 mid tower case Black (4USB)
OTATX3 350 watt power supply
Microsoft Windows 8
1 year Parts & Labour Warranty

I have no idea what most of that means, but to those of you who, whaddaya think ? Any good ?

RON

Ask for Windows 8.1!

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on April 20, 2014, 12:03:35 PM
Which OS does your current system have?  You may be able to install your existing Windows XP or 7 on the new system; it's already paid for.  I wouldn't pay a penny for Windows 8 and would rather use the money to upgrade the memory or hard drive.  You'll need a 64-bit operating system to take advantage of anything more than 4 GB of RAM.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 20, 2014, 12:49:41 PM
OS, I would assume is operating system ? We have Mozilla Thunderbird. A few years ago we
had "Computer ER" take the box for repairs or whatever. That's when Thunderbird was installed.
Is there something better than that ?

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 20, 2014, 01:00:44 PM
Got my 94 out of storage yesterday as well. bananna' However driving it home the Anti Lock and Traction Control lights came on. It's reading a code 38. Something to do with uneven pressure in the system I believe.
I might need a new master cylinder of it could just be a bad caliper.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on April 20, 2014, 03:12:30 PM
OS, I would assume is operating system ? We have Mozilla Thunderbird. A few years ago we
had "Computer ER" take the box for repairs or whatever. That's when Thunderbird was installed.
Is there something better than that ?

Right-click on 'My Computer' (either in the Start Menu or on the Desktop somewhere) and select 'Properties', then see what's shown under the 'General' tab.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 20, 2014, 06:25:08 PM
Got my 94 out of storage yesterday as well. bananna' However driving it home the Anti Lock and Traction Control lights came on. It's reading a code 38. Something to do with uneven pressure in the system I believe.
I might need a new master cylinder of it could just be a bad caliper.

GJ

 I'm thinking there is an internal pressure loss. And it's before the pressure differential switch, where the code is being set. And that in my think means the master cylinder.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 20, 2014, 06:27:42 PM
Unfortunately Joe didn't get back to me about the computer so I'm going to do it on my own.
I will get one of the custom built desktop towers from MDG Computers for $499 +tax.
Just for the hell of it and if anyone cares here are the specs.

Intel Dual Core G2030 CPU 3GHz, 3MB Cache
MSI H61M-P31/W8 Motherboard socket 1155
Intel H61 Chipset
4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz RAM
Integrated Graphics Processor (PCIE Slot)
1 D-Sub (VGA Port), 1 HDMI Port
Realtek ALC887 audio codec
High Definition Audio
6 USB 2.0/1.1 Ports
1TB Western Digital 7200RPM SATA Hard drive
LG DVD reader/writer (dual layer)
Gigacase PA809 mid tower case Black (4USB)
OTATX3 350 watt power supply
Microsoft Windows 8
1 year Parts & Labour Warranty

I have no idea what most of that means, but to those of you who, whaddaya think ? Any good ?

RON

 I would stick with 7 as well. Did we not have a discussion on 8?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on April 20, 2014, 06:39:21 PM
Well I spent the afternoon trying to repair a leaking trans line, look what I had to do to get to the leak!

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 20, 2014, 07:11:45 PM

 Bloody hell!

 Is that not the same line that puked back in the sub arctic temps?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on April 20, 2014, 07:12:19 PM
yup thats the one!

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 20, 2014, 07:15:39 PM

 At least it held until the spring. But damn, that's a lot of disassembly for a trans line!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on April 20, 2014, 07:18:26 PM

 At least it held until the spring. But damn, that's a lot of disassembly for a trans line!

 Mike

Car has been parked in my garage since I discovered the line was leaking. I knew it was a big job thats why I waited for the good weather to get at it.

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 20, 2014, 07:24:59 PM

 Ah. Nice when you can do that and drive something else.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on April 20, 2014, 07:26:10 PM

 Ah. Nice when you can do that and drive something else.

 Mike

My G5 in my daily.

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 20, 2014, 07:34:57 PM

 And I made it through the winter with 2 old Cadillacs. And they did very well. A battery and a rad is all I had to deal with.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on April 20, 2014, 07:39:17 PM

 And I made it through the winter with 2 old Cadillacs. And they did very well. A battery and a rad is all I had to deal with.

 Mike

I drive a 100km's a day, it's has to be a 4 banger.

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 20, 2014, 07:42:54 PM

  ;D What do I drive? Maybe 14 per day? Maureen just goes down the street.

 But those years working at Penske, I drove 130K per day in a 1985 Caprice. I still say that was one of the best cars I ever had.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on April 20, 2014, 07:49:03 PM
Cost of fuel is just to high these days to be driving a older V8 as a daily driver. My G5 gets 7.3 per 100km's average. No matter how well tuned I might get a V8 I doubt I could beat that.

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 20, 2014, 07:54:45 PM
That list is what they normally put in their machines but they will do a 7 if asked.
I keep getting conflicting opinions as to which way to go. Someone says 7, another 8 and I also heard 8.1.
I just called one of the tech guys at Shaw. He thought 7 would be best for me. He suggested
I go to Canada Computers up the street from MDG, show them the MDG spec sheet and see what they have to offer. I'll do that in the morning. Then I'll decide which way to go.

This machine is getting bombarded with pop-up ads right now. Buy this and buy that along
with all these notices about updating all the different systems in the machine. They're like flies,
I can't get rid of them.

RON

 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 20, 2014, 08:01:25 PM
I hand washed and dried DCC plus a light interior cleaning.  Cali got detailed in and out - ready for show season!!  Cali goes to the shop tomorrow for new "lifters" front and back so I can get rid of the hockey stick that holds up the trunk.

Nice day to be working outside   -yes-

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 20, 2014, 08:07:44 PM

 The right front tire on Victoria keeps going down. Took a look at that. The valve stem at the rim is leaking. Can't fix that here, so I'll have it done ASAP.

 Before that we set up the tent and patio furniture in the back yard.

 But when all was done, just kicked back and enjoyed a few good brews in the garage with the warm sun beating in on us.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 20, 2014, 08:27:25 PM
We need a new cover for our gazebo but I'd really like to get a new one, one of those
with the hard roof instead of fabric. The sun and the weather eventually wears the fabric 
out and removing it and putting it back up every year is a pain in the neck. We've had it for
at least 10 years so it might be best to put the $200 for new screens and the canopy toward
a whole new gazebo but there always seems to be something more important to worry about.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 20, 2014, 08:31:31 PM

 Last year I bought 2 of those tents like we use at FCCI. They last 3 years and are cheap and relatively sturdy. And they are a cinch to put up.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on April 21, 2014, 05:35:25 PM
I replaced the L/R window motor on Sunday and drove it in and out of the garage.  ::)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 21, 2014, 10:29:36 PM

 Straight forward job?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 23, 2014, 02:42:48 PM
Got my 94 out of storage yesterday as well. bananna' However driving it home the Anti Lock and Traction Control lights came on. It's reading a code 38. Something to do with uneven pressure in the system I believe.
I might need a new master cylinder of it could just be a bad caliper.

GJ

 I'm thinking there is an internal pressure loss. And it's before the pressure differential switch, where the code is being set. And that in my think means the master cylinder.

 Mike

I went to the Mufflerman today. Turns out there was a bit of air in one of the front lines. They bled the brakes for me and all is well now. $61 out the door.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 23, 2014, 05:03:33 PM
Awesome!   whoo/hoo

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 23, 2014, 05:22:18 PM
Phew!!   bananna'

sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 23, 2014, 10:22:34 PM

 That's odd, though. I don't know how the air got in there. But that's good, an easy fix. I was looking at the possibility of a master cylinder by-passing.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 24, 2014, 02:29:03 PM
I was told that because the car sat for six months and that it was so cold this past winter that the seals may have shrunk during an intense cold snap letting air into the line.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Blazin on April 25, 2014, 10:16:56 PM
I havent checked in lately but I have been busy. I cleaned and waxed my coupe and she is looking great. I have been working a ton on my eldo. I just installed narrow white walls. All the work on the Eldo is in preparation or the GN show in lake george.
 So today I took the 4 ply tires off the eldo and mounted the skinny WW


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: madcaddyman on April 25, 2014, 10:46:08 PM
^^^much better IMO^^^  -yes-

Rene


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 26, 2014, 07:15:47 AM
The narrow ww's look much better. The wides are more appropriate on a car like Joe's '38..

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 26, 2014, 05:10:55 PM
I like it either way. That is a nice looking car.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 27, 2014, 06:21:19 PM
Beauty! That is one nice looking ride. The '61-'62's are amoung my favourites.  -yes-

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on April 30, 2014, 06:31:39 AM
I put mine up on Craigs List hoping for a local buyer, but barely a nibble. Just a bunch of people looking to trade me their junk. One guy has a nice Buick GS455 that he wants to trade even up. I thought that those cars brought some real money, unless it's a clone.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 30, 2014, 08:20:55 AM

 Yeah, lots of clones out there so you have to be really careful. The ones that bring the real money are the Stage 1 cars, particularly the 1970 GSX. The others not so much. Although they are generally very nice cars.

 You'd really like to be able to replace Tinkerbell, eh?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 30, 2014, 01:12:52 PM
Is Tinkerbell the green vert?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 30, 2014, 05:22:30 PM
A deep red 75 or 76 Eldorado convertible. It was a real beauty.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 30, 2014, 05:58:33 PM
Stock or modified?

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 30, 2014, 10:21:07 PM

 Stock.

 Hey Fins. Post a pic or three will ya?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 05, 2014, 12:43:03 PM
I called the guy at the "Top Shop" this morning to see about getting my vinyl roof done.
 I had to e-mail some pics of the car. He says he will call me back tomorrow but can't get it in the shop until early July. So much for getting it done before the Fleetwood Cruise In. -uh-
  He was asking all kinds of questions like. "is there a sticker in the door jamb that says the manufacturer of the Vinyl?" And what does the grain look like? I sent some good close ups and a pic of the SPI label. I hope he can figure it out from there.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 05, 2014, 05:06:07 PM
Awesome. He's available now. I couldn't get ahold of him at all last year. I have to contact him about the roof on the '90 Brougham. Time is not the issue wih that one at all.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 06, 2014, 01:24:15 PM
I just hope his price is what he quoted me last year. He said he could do it for around 1K.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 06, 2014, 01:51:47 PM

 Beauty day. So I got to Victoria. I replaced the TCC solenoid and changed the oil. Damn, what a messy job this is in the driveway. No matter what you do, you end up with oil everywhere.

 But the trans seems to work just a bit better too. The TCC is a bit more responsive to increased throttle angle, dropping out sooner with no delay.

 And I think cleaning could be done too. I blew through the old one, and itwas obviously restricted. I gave itagood blast with brake cleaner and blew it out. A lot less restricted. So I save it.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 06, 2014, 03:19:12 PM
That's good to hear; I'll have to try cleaning the original solenoid from the '88 and am wondering if applying 12 V in the reverse direction will help with the process.

I just finished replacing the fuel pressure regulator on the '91 STS after receiving complaints of hard starting.  The definitive diagnosis was made after observing liquid fuel dribble from the vacuum connection nipple, which took over a minute to occur after the system was pressurized.  It'd be a lot easier if that T-30 mounting screw wasn't facing UPWARDS censored/ under one of the fuel rail brackets!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 06, 2014, 03:22:18 PM
I have a large sheet of heavy cardboard from an appliance box or something. I slide it under the car before I change the oil. the cardboard
catches any mess from spills..

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 06, 2014, 03:34:29 PM
 It'd be a lot easier if that T-30 mounting screw wasn't facing UPWARDS censored/ under one of the fuel rail brackets!

 Engineers do that on purpose. Right Jon?   =rofl=

I have a large sheet of heavy cardboard from an appliance box or something. I slide it under the car before I change the oil. the cardboard
catches any mess from spills..

RON

 I had a peice here, but it got wet and I had to toss it. At one point I had to lie right in the fluid. It does wonders for the hair. But I do have some small sheets of plastic that I did use, but not big enough.

 I just treated her to a bath as well. Also rubbed the roof down with baby oil. I noticed it was starting to split. I hope it at least slows the process.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 06, 2014, 03:57:55 PM
Unfortunately it won't. The only solution is to replace it.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 06, 2014, 04:00:03 PM

 I know. But maybe I can get it to last another year or two.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 06, 2014, 04:31:43 PM
 It'd be a lot easier if that T-30 mounting screw wasn't facing UPWARDS censored/ under one of the fuel rail brackets!

 Engineers do that on purpose. Right Jon?   =rofl=


 ;D

OK, so this was Cadillac's first SPFI setup, and it probably helped the assembly line process having the injector holes facing upwards while running in those screws; they probably figured it wouldn't need replacing in the normal lifespan of the vehicle, assuming it'd always receive fill-ups of laboratory grade fuel, BUT did they also have to use red locktite on the threads to ensure you'd mess up the screw head if driven off-angle and be forced to remove it with a sawzall?  :)  To their credit, they got the design right on the next try (Northstar), as the swap is so quick after the clip is removed that you're left wondering if you've missed something.



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 06, 2014, 05:44:23 PM

 Uh huh.

 They decreed that it would be good forever. Yep, heard that one before too. Unfounded confidence. And why would you use thread locker?

 And I never did understand GM's fascination with torx fasteners. Yes, there is a good technical argument for them, but as applied in the real world they do fall very short.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 06, 2014, 05:50:24 PM
I suppose it wouldn't hurt if it's only for a year. The damage to the vinyl roof is already done from age and the weather etc so it certainly isnt going to get
any worse.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 06, 2014, 06:14:56 PM

 Gotta get the roof done on Vera first. Then maybe I'll think about Victoria. But if it can hold up for a couple of years, I'll be happy.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 06, 2014, 06:32:14 PM
 It'd be a lot easier if that T-30 mounting screw wasn't facing UPWARDS censored/ under one of the fuel rail brackets!

 Engineers do that on purpose. Right Jon?   =rofl=


Probably due to the fact that it was the first iteration of the setup and it was one of the final things they were considering (fuel supply setup). They had to hit the release deadline and didn't have time to work out the accessibility of interfacing components.
But at the heart of the problem, is the fact that all too many engineers working in the automotive industry have never spun a wrench. Acronyms are everywhere (DRL, BCM, GVW) and a good portion of the people don't actually know what they stand for. So when someone working on a fuel bracket sees "FPR" for the regulator in the drawings, they might not even know what it is other than it's something in the way.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 06, 2014, 07:51:19 PM
You'll get probably 2 more years from the roof. Years ago when I did the vinyl repair thing I refinished a lot of Cadillac and Lincoln vinyl tops. I repaired any cracks
then recoloured the roof and was able to extend the life of the top by about 4 years but back then the tops were still in decent shape and not difficult to
work on, but now........
The colours from SEM are UV resistant and help keep the top nice longer but the old vinyl will eventually have to be replaced.
Most of the tops I did were on resale cars, mainly to improve the appearance of the car on the dealer's lot but I also did a few "driveway" jobs done at the
owners's home. One summer I even re-did the top on a customer's Rolls-Royce. The vinyl was fine but the colour was faded and needed touching up.
The sun is the top's biggest enemy. It dries out the vinyl and the UV rays breaks it down. As it dries out, the vinyl shrinks producing the cracks and if not
repaired the cracks get longer to the point where a repair can't be done.
When my Eldorado was redone back in '08-'09 I had a new top put on it and now 5 years later I can tell the vinyl is not the same as it was when it was new.

RON
 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 10, 2014, 01:38:02 PM

 Vera got an oil change and a bath....

 Oh and the beads, look in the Technical forum.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 10, 2014, 05:51:30 PM
Just finished changing the transfer case fluid in the SRX - It requires a Dexron III compatible fluid, which is now known as "Manual Transmission Fluid" in the GM world since they adopted Dexron VI.  I used a heavy duty hand soap pump to add the synthetic Mobil 1 ATF to the fill port.  I opted for synthetic after reading some horror stories of burned transfer case fluid, but it appears this one has had an easy life based on the look and smell of what came out.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 12, 2014, 04:20:21 PM

 The prime advantage of synthetic. I'd do the same under the circumstances.

 Yeah, when I replaced the TCC solenoid on Victoria, I used Dexron VI. The latest formulation. But if you go to the parts store, you get Dexron/Mercon.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 12, 2014, 04:33:13 PM
Dexron VI is probably a synthetic fluid.  I understand it's better than Mobil 1 and would have used it if it weren't for a specific warning not to use it in manual transmissions and transfer cases; perhaps its lower viscosity is a factor.  All indications are that Dexron VI will provide smoother, more consistent shift quality over a wider temperature range, plus longer clutch pack life.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 12, 2014, 04:44:26 PM

 That will explain why it was rather expensive. But yes, the transmission has been working very well of late. Even Maureen commented on it.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 13, 2014, 09:55:51 AM

 I just ordered a Delco air shock kit from Rock Auto for Victoria. $117 delivered, that includes a $3.50 discount. So, I'll get them installed and I have to dig install the front to rear harness, a compressor and the sensor. I should have it all here.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 15, 2014, 10:23:54 AM

 And the kit just arrived! 2-days.  whoo/hoo

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 15, 2014, 10:51:13 AM
Hopefully it'll be pretty much plug-n-play.  IIRC, the ELC relay, fuse and 'Level Ride' lamp were already in place in the '88 Brougham, in addition to the wiring harness connector at the left-front bulkhead.  For which model years was level control an option for Fleetwood Broughams and Broughams?  It was standard equipment for 1965-1979.  My 1980 FB doesn't have it, but I understand it became standard again the following year; I think it was dropped again for 1986 and returned for 1989... 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 15, 2014, 11:03:00 AM

 Yes, the wiring harness and connector is there at the bulkhead. I'll have to do some more looking to see if all the other stuff is there. Plus I have to dig for my long stashed away harness and dig out and performance test a compressor. A project that can take place over the summer.

 But in the meantime I'll have the line run to the front and put in the valve there so I can fill them manually. I've decided to take Victoria to the FCC this year, sort of change it up from Joan. So loading the trunk will have the bumper dragging. This will prevent this.

 I think the Brougham was decontented in 1986. My '86 did not have ELC, but the '89 did. Both were d'Elegances. Also, my '84 CDV did.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 20, 2014, 11:02:42 AM

 I went to the cabin last weekend and popped in top see Don Upthegrove just outside Dungannon. He had a good look at the roof of Vera, and we worked out a plan to get it all done, including the headliner. He wanted to see the car sop that he know what was involved.

 I have to get the headliner to him so he can recover the substrate. Then I'll drop the car off so that the windshield can be removed and resealed. the headliner will go in when the windshield is out. Then he can do the roof.

 I don't have a price yet, he's to contact me with that.

 In his shop he has a beautiful 1957 Eldorado Seville painted in pearl white. It belongs to Steve Plunkett, he's doing an interior makeover in red leather.

 Gareth, he needs to see your car for some measurements. However if you can't make it, then when I'm at the cabin with my '94 I can take it in for him to see. But that won't likely be until late June or July.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 27, 2014, 09:31:20 AM

 Did I post pics of a polished Victoria?

 Last weekend I did the exterior, clay bar, polish chrome, glass and tires. And for you kevin, repainted and installed the air cleaner cover.

 Now I'm digging into these air shocks. It seems that the air line is smaller than even the smallest commercial (ie truck) air line. So I had to dig through the garage to find what I had of the proper stuff. I located enough to run to the front of the car. Now I have to find a Tee and some connectors so that it can be spliced and get there. I plan on dropping the car off Thursday and picking it up Friday. Then she will be able to carry the load.

 Then I'll have to get at the interior.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 27, 2014, 11:05:57 AM
I went to the body shop this morning. I found the missing roll of pinstripe tape. The colour has changed over the past 6 years so I have to remove the
entire stripe from the driver's side of the car and redo it. The colour difference isn't that much but I'll know it's off and that will bother me.
The hood has been repaired and the fender with the new spear has been installed. The area under the spear was pre-painted before the spear went on.
The existing paint was computer scanned while I was there and the colour will be mixed this afternoon. They will probably finish masking it to-day and paint
the car tomorrow then reassemble it Thursday and Friday.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 27, 2014, 11:09:31 AM

 Awesome! So you should have it for the weekend. Plenty of time for detailing and final tid bits.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on May 27, 2014, 01:08:55 PM

 Did I post pics of a polished Victoria?

 Last weekend I did the exterior, clay bar, polish chrome, glass and tires. And for you kevin, repainted and installed the air cleaner cover.

 Now I'm digging into these air shocks. It seems that the air line is smaller than even the smallest commercial (ie truck) air line. So I had to dig through the garage to find what I had of the proper stuff. I located enough to run to the front of the car. Now I have to find a Tee and some connectors so that it can be spliced and get there. I plan on dropping the car off Thursday and picking it up Friday. Then she will be able to carry the load.

 Then I'll have to get at the interior.

 Mike

Nice work, styling on this vintage is classic !

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 27, 2014, 01:31:27 PM
Saturda,y weather permitting, a good major clean up to be done to get ready for the first show in Paris this Sunday.  Fleetwood is more important though
so it will be done again during the week. I'm itching to get to it.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 27, 2014, 04:11:48 PM
And for you kevin, repainted and installed the air cleaner cover.

I used to dismiss ThermAC as a PITA until I started recording M/C duty cycle and intake air temperature while making small adjustments to the temperature sensor; it does a remarkably good job at maintaining 120 F at the stock calibration.  Fuel vapourisation improves at even higher air temperatures, however, the upper limit is related to the boiling point of fuel, though it doesn't take much cranking to clear the hot flood at 135 F.  I now see why a non-functioning ThermAC can contribute to excessive exhaust carbon monoxide and increased fuel consumption on carbureted and TBI engines.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on May 27, 2014, 04:38:40 PM
Very heavy automotive technical analysis, way above my pay grade.

Hacking away on the 1926 Cadillac Superior hearse divider wall and the molded interior upholstery panels. Also assisted in the D & E for the hole for the steering column , brake pedal and gas pedal,Steering wheel I  restored is dead nuts parallel to the front of the car. Some of the new cars the steering wheel is literally crooked, my 78 Vette was like that, My 90 G van the wheel is dead nuts straight.

Day 36 in a row, a bunch of slave driver's here. Running me into the ground.

CDV




Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on May 27, 2014, 09:14:25 PM
Porter, It's very simple really. I didn't know what it was until I searched... this is what I found.

The Thermac system is composed of the air cleaner body, a filter, sensor unit, vacuum diaphragm, damper door, and associated hoses and connections. Heat radiating from the exhaust manifold is trapped by a heat stove and is ducted to the air cleaner to supply heated air to the carburetor. A movable door in the air cleaner case snorkel allows air to be drawn in from the heat stove (cold operation) or from underhood air (warm operation). The door position is controlled by the vacuum motor, which receives intake manifold vacuum as modulated by the temperature sensor.

As I understand, When cold it sends warm air into the carb and when cool the damper changes and sends cooler air in. This seems to me to be a response to the problems the flatheads have with vapor lock.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on May 27, 2014, 10:33:51 PM
As we say here " I get it ".

I never understood that function on the air cleaner but maybe I understand that now. My 90 SBC 5.7L has a similar device on the air filter housing.

Gregg had a 66 Vette Coupe that he sold to his BIL years ago, he stopped by yesterday and the resto on this car is stunning, breathtaking. Sunfire yellow originally but he went with Mossport Green factory correct color paint , all new black leather interior, body off resto , rebuilt L 79 and it has the 4sp Muncie, knock off wheels with gold line tires . I'm mentally stunned after seeing that car, bumpers re - chromed, all emblems restored or repro, unreal !

I'll post a few pictures when I get back in a month or so.

CDV



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 27, 2014, 10:36:46 PM
 That's exactly right. It's a system that has been in use by Ford (not to be confused with their Thermacter system which is Ford lingo for A.I.R.) since the early 60's and GM picked it up in '68. It aids in engine warm up and helps prevent carb icing too.

 If you have ever had a mid 70's Chevrolet, you know how important this system is.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 29, 2014, 01:08:29 PM
Was at the body shop again this morning. It's been painted and they were putting the bumper and the trim back on. It looks really good.
After they clean it up a bit I can pick it up tomorrow morning.
You can't tell that the paint was blended with the old but it was indoors with fluorescent lighting. Outside in natural light it might look different.
I just have to put on a new pinstripe now and then clean up the way I like it to do it.
Except for the fender I'm going to keep the damaged parts. I'm going to strip them of any good parts like the bumperettes, licence plate holder etc.
There's a lot of salvageable stuff I should hold onto.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on May 29, 2014, 01:12:00 PM
Most people would be thrilled to get their car with fresh paint but yours already looked so good before. I'm sure you'll just be very happy to have it back.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 29, 2014, 02:07:42 PM
It's been a long 8 weeks since the accident and 6 weeks in the body shop. The longest wait was for the parts and they weren't going to do any repairs
until they had them all at hand. Anyway, it's over and done and baby's coming home.

RON 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 29, 2014, 04:17:33 PM
That's fantastic!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 30, 2014, 05:53:17 PM
I picked up my car this morning and it looks super. If you want to see the kind of work this shop does go to  SPLITAUTO.CA

I've already put on the new pinstripe and tomorrow I'll do a major cleaning. Next week I want to restore the black line in the paint groove on the Biarritz
roof and fender trim. That will be a lot of masking and hand painting using black Tremclad and a good model brush & lots of little silver detail trim painting too.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on May 30, 2014, 05:55:28 PM
Ohhh I can't wait to see it!  burn/out


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on May 30, 2014, 05:59:44 PM
When I see you, pls point out what you did, and pls teach me how to do it.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 30, 2014, 06:00:39 PM
If you have some time tomorrow come up and show me how to post pics again, then I can show everyone how it turned out..

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on May 30, 2014, 06:03:15 PM
Maybe Sunday morning before we head to Paris would be better? I'll be working around the house most of the day tomorrow.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 30, 2014, 06:26:47 PM
OK !  Paris is open 8 to 5. We can get there for 10 or so if you like.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on May 30, 2014, 06:36:39 PM
Breakfast?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 30, 2014, 06:46:02 PM

 Awesome! I'm anxiously waiting to see it too. But I have to wait for another week.

 I'd still like to go Paris, but I still have a lot to do here.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 30, 2014, 06:46:44 PM
Why not ! At the Lincside again for 7 ?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on May 30, 2014, 06:49:04 PM
Ok, 7 it is. Eat slowly, figure out whats going on to get photos posted and then get to Paris whenever.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 30, 2014, 06:51:13 PM
 Maybe not what I did to my Cadillac, but it will surely help me do things to my Cadillac. I finally scored that Fuel Pressure Test Kit from Princess Auto. man, this is a lot more than I expected. It's a really top quality kit that I think sells for much more than the $50 I paid for it. Plus it comes in a realy nice case, has a pretty thick user's manual and even has the GM TBI adaptor that costs upwards of $50 on its' own.

 If you have a use for this sort of thing, I would highly recommend you trot down there and grab one before they're gone.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 01, 2014, 11:20:38 AM

 Victoria is all polished and looking very lovely indeed!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on June 01, 2014, 12:07:49 PM
Wow, I've never seen it looking so sharp!!  Were you able to find or mix some paint for various touch-ups?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 01, 2014, 01:08:48 PM

 Yeah, she came out nice, eh? No paint involved either.

 After I took the pics I put the floor mats back in. I scrubbed them and they were hanging out to dry. They turned out nice too. Then I slathered the roof with baby oil.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 01, 2014, 01:41:24 PM

 Kevin. Any chance you can make it to the show this year?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on June 01, 2014, 07:21:08 PM

 Yeah, she came out nice, eh? No paint involved either.

 After I took the pics I put the floor mats back in. I scrubbed them and they were hanging out to dry. They turned out nice too. Then I slathered the roof with baby oil.

 Mike

Dumb newbie question:  won't the baby oil cause dust to stick?

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 01, 2014, 08:40:53 PM

 Yes, it will. But I'm trying to replenish some of the oils in the vinyl so that the roof lasts maybe a year more. Eventually it gets absorbed/dries off and stuff doesn't stick to it.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 01, 2014, 09:05:32 PM
I thought I would see what I could do about the groove that should have black paint it on the Biarritz trim on my car. I tried it first with black pinstripe
tape. The groove on the trim is only 1/8" wide but 1/8" vinyl tape is very delicate and difficult to work with so I scrapped that idea. Only painting by hand
would work. I masked off either side of the groove and made sure the tape would stick fast which it did. Then with one of my hobby brushes applied black
Tremclad paint to the groove and it worked great. I only did one small section as a test. If it doesn't rain tomorrow I will do some more. I'll let you know
after I'm done how it turned out and the materials to use.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on June 01, 2014, 09:32:08 PM
Thank you   {truce}

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 02, 2014, 07:31:35 AM

 Patience and a steady hand and it will work fine.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 02, 2014, 09:28:44 AM
I doubt I'll paint anything today and possibly tomorrow. It's too humid here right now and it's supposed to rain this afternoon, tonight and tomorrow.
Maybe it's just as well because I just can't get going today. My get up and go got up and went and left me behind.
Last week I hurt my left foot making it hard to get around and stay on my feet for very long so that isn't helping things either.
This morning I noticed a coolant leak on my Eldorado. The upper rad hose is leaking at the clamp where it mounts the thermostat housing. There is a
small hole in the hose under the clamp so the hose has to be replaced. Tony is going to do that for me tomorrow morning.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 02, 2014, 09:35:15 AM

 Look after that foot.

 It's good that these problems surface while at home.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 02, 2014, 10:30:11 AM
I have a bird feeder in the tree on my front lawn. I went to see how much seed was left and as I turned around to leave my right ankle went over on
an uneven bit of soil under the grass and I lost my balance. As I went down my right knee hit grass but the big toe on my left foot did a nose dive
into the driveway. I had on a pair of outdoor slippers that I use when I'm on the lawn or driveway so there was no protection for my toes at all.
The toe is all red and swollen and the top of my foot is swollen halfway up to the ankle  I can bend the toe at the big knuckle but not the smaller one
but that's probably because of the swelling.
Anyway, I now have an appointment with my doctor for tomorrow afternoon.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 02, 2014, 10:47:01 AM

 Ouch!

 He'll probably tell you to stay off your feet. But get that all better for the weekend, no doubt you'll want to do a bit of walking about.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on June 02, 2014, 10:52:02 AM
Kevin. Any chance you can make it to the show this year?

There's a chance, but as usual, it'll be a last minute decision.  Some family friends are in town and might be interested in attending.  If things work out, it'd be for Saturday only.  


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 02, 2014, 11:06:49 AM

 Lets hope. It would be good to have you there this year.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 02, 2014, 11:10:15 AM

 Ouch!

 He'll probably tell you to stay off your feet. But get that all better for the weekend, no doubt you'll want to do a bit of walking about.

 Mike

Anyone have a 4x4 wheelchair ?  I did do some walking with Joe in Paris yesterday but had to sit several times to take the weight off. It's not that
bad to walk on the flat and solid but on uneven lawns it puts more of a strain on the foot and toes with the increased flexing, but I will get about
this weekend as best I can. The important thing is that I will be at Fleetwood.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on June 02, 2014, 02:00:58 PM
My non doctor opinion, from seeing Ron's foot, is that he has a broken toe. I felt bad for him, still do.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on June 02, 2014, 04:21:12 PM
Not much you can do about that except to give it time to heal.
 Last weekend I was cleaning up scraps of wood from the new deck and dropped a large piece of wood on my big toe.
I was wearing sandals so it ripped my toe wide open. Still a bit sore but I should be fine on the weekend.
 I got the 94 washed and waxed today. It's looking real good. Maybe tomorrow I'll clean and condition the leather.
I just wish the new vinyl roof was on, but I'm meeting the guy at the Cruise In to set up a time to get it done.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 02, 2014, 05:48:51 PM
My non doctor opinion, from seeing Ron's foot, is that he has a broken toe. I felt bad for him, still do.

Thank you for the diagnosis Dr, Ceretti. I'm going to get a 2nd opinion tomorrow. I don't think it's broken because I can still move it but I'll see what
my doctor says. He will probably want an X-ray too. Although there is a lot of swelling the only part that hurts is the small knuckle below the toenail.
It aches a lot, a sort of throbbing ache.
No matter what though I still have to get my car ready for Fleetwood, especially replacing that rad hose.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on June 02, 2014, 06:08:32 PM
Having broken more than my fair share of fingers and toes, I can tell you for a fact it's an old wives tale that if it's broken, you can't move it.  BS.  If the joint isn't affected, you can still use the muscles/tendons to move the broken digit.

Either way, it still hurts, tho   .no.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on June 02, 2014, 08:11:05 PM
Looked broken to me. They are easy to break. I'm an amateur Dr, I am just practicing.  nya/nya


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 02, 2014, 08:36:05 PM
OK Doc. But I'm still going to get a second opinion from your colleague, Dr Damji.

BTW, are you going to post any of those Paris pics ?

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on June 02, 2014, 08:37:16 PM
Good thing his name is Damji and not Damij.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 02, 2014, 08:38:05 PM
Why is that ?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on June 02, 2014, 08:38:51 PM
Damij - Damage. hahha


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on June 02, 2014, 08:40:47 PM
  Groan   nya/nya

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 02, 2014, 08:49:30 PM
I agree with Sam.  He is Mehboob Damji, an East Indian and a damn good doctor. I've been with him for 30 years when he first got out of med school.
He took over my first Dr's practice when he retired and I never bothered looking for anybody else. I'm glad I didn't.

RON    wheel/chair


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on June 02, 2014, 09:04:54 PM
Pretty sure he'll recognize a broken, or not, toe better than I can.  -uh-


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on June 03, 2014, 06:05:21 AM
Maybe not what I did to my Cadillac, but it will surely help me do things to my Cadillac. I finally scored that Fuel Pressure Test Kit from Princess Auto. man, this is a lot more than I expected. It's a really top quality kit that I think sells for much more than the $50 I paid for it. Plus it comes in a realy nice case, has a pretty thick user's manual and even has the GM TBI adaptor that costs upwards of $50 on its' own.

 If you have a use for this sort of thing, I would highly recommend you trot down there and grab one before they're gone.

 Mike

Very nice kit. I bought this six years ago.

http://www.amazon.com/Actron-CP7817-Throttle-Injection-Pressure/dp/B0006V2BK0

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 03, 2014, 07:49:23 AM

 Yep. That's it. And as soon as I can, I'm going to start using it. Gotta get to the bottom of that hard starting issue on Vera.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 03, 2014, 09:59:48 AM
Yesterday I wrote a piece about how I painted the grooves in my Biarritz trim and I thought I posted it but now I can't find it.
I think it's only Sam who's interested it anyway. It was very easy to do but time consuming. Sam, if you are still interested let me know and I will redo it.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on June 03, 2014, 10:03:37 AM
Hi Ronnie

You talked about taping off the area, making sure it was well secured, then using an artist brush you painted in the black. You also talked about trying to use 1/4" tape, but that was a bust.  The only detail omitted was the type/brand of paint you used.

I look forward to seeing the results at FCCI   -yes-

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 03, 2014, 10:50:56 AM
I thought I mentioned the paint. I used gloss black TREMCLAD. It is supposed to have self etching properties for a good bond. Use it full strength, don't
thin it out. You will need Varsol to clean up with. Use a good quality round hobby brush and apply the paint in long strokes and in one direction. Don't over
load the brush with paint, you don't want any runs or drips but to be on the safe side tape newspaper below the horizontal section of the spear to catch
any drips.
Make sure you remove any wax or polish from the trim and remove the tape before the paint dries. I used "Frog" tape because it leaves a clean crisp edge.
It will probably take a couple of hours to do the car. I'm going try to finish mine tomorrow or Thursday.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 03, 2014, 03:42:33 PM
Looked broken to me. They are easy to break. I'm an amateur Dr, I am just practicing.  nya/nya

Just got back from the doctor. He looked at it and didn't think it was broken but just to be sure I'm getting an X-ray in the morning. What he thinks happened was
that when it hit the ground the toe was pushed back towards the ankle into the knuckle joints. We'll see for sure after the X-ray.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 03, 2014, 05:04:55 PM

 Adislocation or sprain can be just as if not more painful than a break.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on June 16, 2014, 09:30:14 PM
So I decided I was finally going to give Chester a bath. But when I turned the key I was met by nothing but clicking. Odd since 2 days ago it started up on it's own after 2-3 months of sitting without a battery charger. So I checked the voltage and it was down around 9V.  I pulled the truck around and hooked up the booster cables and let it slowly charge the battery through the not-very-good battery cables. After about 10 min it had enough juice to start. I checked the voltage again after it was running and it was right up above 14 so the alternator was charging.  I let it run for about 30 min while I gave the car a good wash and put it back in the garage at which point I checked the voltage again before shutting it off.  This time the voltage was ~13.5 and I notice the alternator belt was flopping around quite a bit.  So I turned it off and confirmed the alternator belt is quite loose, but I've run out of room on the tensioner so I'll have to pick up another tomorrow. I checked the voltage of the battery one more time and It was down at 10.8V.  Finally I checked the draw and it's well down around 20mA so no short anywhere.
Now the back story is 2 days ago when I first started it up it took a long time to start since the voltage was low enough that the cranking was really slow and I hadn't primed the fuel system (hasn't been started since last fall).  So I'm wondering if the long startup was the final straw that broke the battery and now it won't hold a charge, that combined with a stretching belt is keeping the alternator from being able to hold the full voltage.

I disconnected the battery and hooked up a trickle charger and intend on checking the battery tomorrow to see if I'll be picking up another one at the same time as the belt.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on June 16, 2014, 11:20:44 PM
How old is the battery and roughly how much of the time has it been below 70% charge?  As batteries age, the internal resistance increases which limits the rate of charging to the point where routine drive cycles can no longer replenish a sufficient charge in spite of correct charging system voltage.  A 1-2 A trickle charge over the course of a week may help to restore some capacity; more than one cycle may be required.  I routinely trickle charge batteries via a cigarette lighter adapter and discontinue once the potential exceeds 15 V, the exact figure depends on the ambient temperature.  A replacement decision would depend on the age, history and load test performance after a regimen of trickle charging.

In the morning, check the voltage before disconnecting the charger.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on June 17, 2014, 08:29:08 PM
Yeah,  the battery's shot.  I had it hooked up to a 4 A trickle and over 24 hours it still hadn't come up to a full charge.  The battery is from the previous owner (I've had it for almost 4 years) and it's had several times of being below charge. I'm actually surprised the battery has lasted as long as it did.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 17, 2014, 10:33:02 PM

 A new battery will make the car happier. Just run a check on the charging system when the battery is in. A defective battery can put undue strain on the alternator.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on June 19, 2014, 08:51:15 PM
I prevented a fire with quick action.  6chin6


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on June 19, 2014, 09:08:52 PM
I prevented a fire with quick action.  6chin6

That sounds like it has a GREAT story behind it  ;D

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 19, 2014, 10:39:19 PM

 I'm waiting......

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on June 20, 2014, 01:35:48 PM
Sorry haha, my aux fuel pump stuck and caused a dead short. I saw the smoke come under the dash and got it shut off in time to stop any open flame. Not that exciting to type but it was pretty exciting at the time.

Changed out my flex lines on my brakes today. Also not exciting but it could have been if one went during a panic stop. Single circuit brakes need to be well maintained at all times.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on June 20, 2014, 02:59:49 PM
When changing the flex lines I noticed that the entire wire running back to the fuel pump was not burned.... hmm I thought. Seems the wire got pinched between the body and the clutch return stop right on a sharp edge.

Fixed. Phew, didn't want to either 1) find my receipt for the fuel pump or 2) buy another. What it did do was burn up my inertia fuel cut off switch. Going to have to go back to the scrap yard and pull another off an old Ford.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 20, 2014, 05:26:33 PM

 Man, that was a disaster averted!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on June 20, 2014, 05:29:52 PM
I just got back form the scrap yard. The overload melted the plug on my new to me fuel cut off switch. For $2 I didn't want to trust it anymore. Picked up another off a Ford Explorer and lucky me I was exploring and spotted a left behind nice ball peen hammer. It went in my tools.  ;D

AND I realized that the Explorer has an upgraded switch that has better environmental sealing.

The switch and plug are $50 USD on Amazon.

AND2, smoke under the dash makes me turn the power off pretty quickly.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on June 20, 2014, 06:45:32 PM
Is there some form of over-current protection on that circuit?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on June 21, 2014, 08:17:43 AM
Is there some form of over-current protection on that circuit?

Yes, there is a circuit breaker on the voltage regulator and a circuit breaker on the feed from the light switch. Obviously too high of an amperage, I can't understand why one didn't trip. The one on the light switch is original and I didn't trust it hence the reason for the one I added to the VR. The VR one is 30amp. To prevent this I added an inline 10amp fuse on the fuel pump line. I also have added a 10 amp on the radio and a 10 amp on the heater fan and another 10amp on the turn signals. I think I need to rethink the wiring and add a fuse block and reroute everything properly. The 30amp breaker on the VR is mainly there to prevent the generator from throwing off all it's solder joints if the VR sticks and overloads the generator. I don't really want that happening but a fire would be much worse.

This morning I took apart the vacuum fan I bought last year on eBay. It was filthy and not working when I got it and I cleaned and freed it up and it worked fine but it was badly scratched and still stained looking on the front decal. I dealt with all that today. New paint, polishing and cleaning of the decal. The decal isn't perfect but still very nice.

EDIT: I LOVE the paint I used on the fan. It's a grey that is supposed to look like stainless steel. It did until I put some clear coat on it. Now it looks like grey with silver fleck. I think I may paint the whole dash with this grey paint and clear. The fan was a gold fake cadmium plated look. With age it just looked more like a dull green/gold.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on June 21, 2014, 11:35:12 AM
Yes, there is a circuit breaker on the voltage regulator and a circuit breaker on the feed from the light switch. Obviously too high of an amperage, I can't understand why one didn't trip.

In general, fuses will offer better protection by responding more quickly and consistently than a mechanical circuit breaker.  Perhaps the small area of contact at the short limited the current flow below the breaker's threshold, but it was still sufficient to generate a smoke show.  Do those circuit breakers reset automatically?  It should be possible to incorporate some inconspicuous fusible links.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 21, 2014, 11:42:13 AM
This morning my power steering started to whine a bit when turning. I was shocked to see that the pump reservoir was almost empty. The engine coolant was
also low, below the add line on the overflow can. Don't know they were low. I put a new rad hose on a week or so ago and checked all the fluids and everything
was fine with no evidence of any leaks. I topped everything off today and now I'll have to keep and extra close eye on them. 
I also had an annoying ticking sound at low speed and couldn't figure out where it was coming from. I thought maybe there was a loose wire or two in my wheel
covers so I took them off one at a time then drove it but the ticking wouldn't stop. Finally when I went to remove the left front wheel cover the locking bolt fell out.
Somehow it had come loose and was rolling around behind the center hub cap. I'm surprised that I didn't lose that left front cover on Monday. I took my car up to the
the Cadillac dealer John Bear and hit a pot hole that I couldn't see. WHAM ! Man, that was a violent hit. Scared the hell out of me. I'm thinking I should maybe go
to Putney's and get the alignment checked.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 21, 2014, 03:11:55 PM

 Joan got serviced, then enjoyed a nice bath.     -yes-

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on June 21, 2014, 07:33:13 PM
My new rear flex line knocked my connector off of my fuel pump. Before I knew what it was I was a bit freaked out due to the problems I have been having in the last few days with it. I loosened and turned the fittings a bit around to keep it away and put a tie wrap loose on it just to be double sure.

Otherwise the car performed nearly flawlessly today. I think I have to adjust my front brakes a bit. A hint of pull to one side.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 23, 2014, 03:50:51 PM

 It was Vera's turn for a wax job today. Clay bar, then wax. Polished the chrome and cleaned the windows. Quick wipe on the interior. That has to be done another day.

 Then I attached the mirror that fell off, put some sealer on the windshield in hopes that will stem the tide for now. I also attached the right front door window frame trim that fell off awhile ago.

 Then sucked out the AC. It held 30" for a good half hour. So I shot in some sealer, then oil. 3 cans of Duracool. But damn that compressor is noisy. Max high side was 175. The low side was 70(?). I took it for a drive and it really belted out the cold air. I forgot the thermometer so I can't tell you the vent temps. But after shutting it off and going back in I can smell the old pine scent. So that evaporator is leaking. Oh well.....

 Then the rain started. The water sure does bead, and let's see if that windshield has sealed up.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 29, 2014, 09:27:29 AM

 Nothing done yet. Signal switch on Victoria won't hold on right turns. Gotta get a switch now. And get that alignment done to straigten the wheel.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 29, 2014, 10:15:09 AM

 I just ordered the switch from Rock Auto. $40. I also ised the discount code and got $1.16 off.

 It is 2291680121055382

 Type it in where it says "How did you hear about us"

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 12, 2014, 08:38:28 AM
I will be changing the oil on both Chester (first time since last summer) and the Roadmaster today.  While I'm doing that,  the girls want to help by washing the Roadmaster.
I had noticed that when it's running, there's a small oil drip under chester, I'm going to try and check that out.  I hope it's just a loose filter.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 12, 2014, 08:39:56 AM

 A day of good old fashioned family fun.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 12, 2014, 10:46:08 PM
 We ended up going to the park and ran around with the girls a bunch so I did the car work while they napped.
I figured out what the oil leak was, just some loose pan bolts. But I did have to take off the flex plate cover to tighten them.
I ran into another issue with the oil change on the roadmaster, the gasket on the new filter was the wrong size and I didn't notice which meant a gigantic oil spill on your driveway. Luckily the gasket off the old filter fit the new one.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 13, 2014, 07:45:40 AM

 Nasty mess! How could the seal be the wrong size. What brand of filter were you using.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 13, 2014, 10:01:36 AM
It was an ACDelco filter, the filter has 2 ring shaped grooves on the top for two different gasket sizes. I guess two different filter housings exist for the same thread size. The filter that came off had the larger groove gasket while the new filter had the smaller groove gasket. This was a new one for me so I never looked for it until after I noticed the oil heading for the sidewalk.
From now on I'm switching to carquest filters.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 13, 2014, 10:05:59 AM
Lol,
Probably the thing that bugs me the most is that it's an embarrassing first impression to all the car guys in the neighborhood.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 13, 2014, 10:07:00 AM
 As far as I know, AC filters are made by another concern. They just put their name on it. Like so many other things out there these days.

 I use NAPA Gold. Made by Wix and probably ion thew top 3 filter brands out there.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 13, 2014, 10:07:51 AM
Lol,
Probably the thing that bugs me the most is that it's an embarrassing first impression to all the car guys in the neighborhood.

 Oh yeah. that would be high on my mind too.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 13, 2014, 10:33:14 AM
I asked the carquest guy on Friday and found out they are wix too. Carquest is an 8min drive. The next nearest place to buy car parts that I've found is crappy tire 20+ mins drive away. The only downside to small town living.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 13, 2014, 11:00:16 AM

 Yeah, its nice to have these places on your door step.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on July 13, 2014, 11:25:36 AM
Took the '81 Eldo to Nostalgia Night in St. Thomas last night that was run by the BIA and Lions clubs.  Live music, local artists, and a huge crowd.  The original blocked off area filled a couple of hours before show time (5-9) and the side roads quickly filled.  Put this on your radar for next year :-)

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 13, 2014, 09:44:54 PM
I went for a drive in the roadmaster and found that the oil filter is leaking a nice stream of oil when it's cold. I'm going to try and tighten it tomorrow but I'm mighty pissed right now.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 13, 2014, 10:28:56 PM

 Just get another filter and be done with it.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 13, 2014, 11:12:51 PM
Yeah, I'll be picking a new one up on my way home from work tomorrow. If it doesn't feel loose, I'll put the new one on. I'm just worried that putting the filter on without the right size gasket scratched the housing surface.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 14, 2014, 08:24:47 AM

 You should be fine. And make sure the gasket is on the outside perimeter of the filter.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 14, 2014, 06:11:33 PM
I picked up the carquest Wix filter and was happy to see that it was a 1 application only filter (didn't have 2 gasket grooves) unlike the fram or the ac delco. I swapped it out and all seems peachy.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 14, 2014, 10:31:17 PM

 Interesting.... 6chin6

 That makes me wonder just who is making these Delco filters these days. It would be interesting to cut one open just to see what's in there.  :poke:

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on July 15, 2014, 05:40:46 AM
Sounds like Jon has an AC filter he won't mind SMASHING OPEN with a sledge hammer.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 15, 2014, 07:41:53 AM
Oh that sounds good, I'm mighty   censored/ at that filter. I just have to figure out how to get it out of the garbage without Tegan seeing me.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 15, 2014, 08:00:41 AM

 I can imagine. It's amazing how fast and how big a mess can be made when they don't seal.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 15, 2014, 11:38:21 AM

 Well today I get to qualify for the dumbass award.

 I went to replace the signal switch on Victoria this morning. I found the stamped steel arm that goes from the switch to the lever was bent and it was slipping out of the groove on the arm on right turns. I straightened it, and all is good. So I now have a spare and new switch in stock.

 And, upon studying the cancel cam I found it was 180 degrees out. It turns out that the lock plate can be installed 180 out, even though there are 2 different sized flats on it. So I installed it the right way. Then I had a close look at the steering shaft spline, and there is no master spline. I can't recall any other GM column that didn't. So I guess I installed it just wherever it dropped on. So I put it on where it looked straight, put the nut on loose and went for a drive. A couple of minor adjustments on the road (I did stop) and the wheel is now straight. The right signal works and both sides cancel as they should.

 I was a bit tight for time when I tightened those bowl bolts back in September, and didn't exercise due diligence when reassembling the column once I got to that point. Lesson learned.

 All is well....... -yes- Time for a refreshment.  drink/o/beer

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on July 15, 2014, 02:17:37 PM
Glad to hear that's all sorted!  Might it be the newer rack & pinion steering systems that have the master spline?  I just checked a '96 or '97 E/K steering wheel, and it has a master, whereas an early '80s RWD unit doesn't.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 27, 2014, 08:18:10 AM
While looking at the Roadmaster horns I decided to check out my stash of Caddy horns.   Chester only has the 2 notes but I bought a set of 4 note horns online a while back.  I figured I'll need to splice into the wiring and mount the 2 extra notes and that's it.   
When I opened the box I discovered the guy had added in a wiring adapter that splits the existing 2-note feed into 4 note feeds on each side of the engine bay.  So all I'll need to do is find 2 bolts and everything is plug and play!   bananna'

Then people will really know when they piss me off!

I checked with the roadmaster horns and the bolt is the same (welded on horn bracket is a little different so I can't use the caddy horns in the roadmaster) so when I go looking for replacement horns next week I'll also try and grab the bolts


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on July 27, 2014, 08:39:51 AM
DCC (my 06 DTS) has 4 horns resulting in a minor dim7 chord which = freight train or boat horn sound. Out here in the country, the louder the better!

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 27, 2014, 09:13:39 AM

 The 4-note horn was standard with the d'Elegance package. The standard got the 2-note. So, I'm looking to upgrade Victoria to the train like 4-horn as well.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on July 27, 2014, 10:13:48 AM
DCC (my 06 DTS) has 4 horns resulting in a minor dim7 chord which = freight train or boat horn sound. Out here in the country, the louder the better!

Sam

There can be almost a semi-tone variation in each horn due to age, wear, input voltage, adjustment, etc. - My guess is the design intent is something between a D minor 7th and an Eb minor 7th.  I think the last factory Trumpet Horn (or Four Note Horn in the Buick World) was offered in the late '90s.  In the case of the 2007 SRX, it came with G and B note FIAMM horns for that weak, inoffensive "Euro sound", but I soon fixed that by adding the old D and F note horns, plus a high C that's closer to C#. :)  No wires were cut; a spare cooling fan relay and wiring harness was added, powered directly from the underhood fuse box and triggered by a lead soldered on the leg of the original horn relay.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on August 01, 2014, 11:19:25 AM
Looks like I have to pull my antennae apart and fix it. Yesterday when I got home I noticed that it won't go down.
 I put a mast kit in it a couple of years ago. I hope this isn't going to be a reoccurring problem.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 01, 2014, 01:41:49 PM
I am amazed that my power antennae still works after all these years. I clean the extended mast occasionally and apply a light coating of lightweight oil
and the antennae works flawlessly.
The radio however has a bit of static now and then. I don't know if there is a bad ground somewhere or what. A few years ago I sent the radio to a guy
in Stoney Creek who cleaned and repaired it and got the tape deck working again. He took parts from a spare radio I had and made one really good one.
I would like to replace the car's speakers with more modern ones but don't know if that can be done using the old radio or are the current speakers and
radio a matched set and will only work in that format. I don't want to install a new aftermarket radio because of all the fancy lights etc. The only way I
would do that would be if I could get a brand new modern radio that looked identical to the original.
My radio is the "Symphony Sound ETR Seek/Scan with a 5 Band Equalizer and Clock' which I assume is the top radio other than the Delco/Bose Premium
system. 

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on August 02, 2014, 10:16:21 AM
Speakers don't have to be a matched set and are easy to replace.
 Just make sure the replacements are the same size. I have JBL speakers in the 82, but the Symphony Sound radio doesn't work at all any more. The original tri band antennae still works great though.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 02, 2014, 10:35:27 AM

 And if it ever quits, I want that antenna. I have the original AM/FM/8-Track/CB out of that car and it would be cool to get it all working together.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on August 02, 2014, 11:06:51 AM
I would like to replace the car's speakers with more modern ones but don't know if that can be done using the old radio or are the current speakers and
radio a matched set and will only work in that format.

The factory speakers are likely 10 ohm units.  The impedance of any replacement speakers should be as close to this as possible to prevent the output transistors from overheating, as lower resistance results in a higher current flow.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on August 02, 2014, 11:30:18 AM
Just add a great big amplifier. -yes-


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 02, 2014, 02:28:22 PM
My speakers are 30 years old and still work but would new ones be of any benefit and what would decent speakers cost ?
I don't want it to do the kathump kathump that vibrates the ground like these bozos and their rice rockets do. That's not music, just a lot of noise pollution.
I'd want more of a concert hall sound.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on August 02, 2014, 05:41:53 PM
Today, I found two speakers at a garage sale on my street. Pioneers new in the box untouched for $10. I love deals. They are installed and sound great as fill speakers for the Sony speakers I have mounted on the kick panels.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on August 03, 2014, 12:11:38 PM
Well, I pulled the antenna yesterday, and my suspicions were right. The cable snapped right at the bottom where it goes into the metal hook. I ordered a new cable today. Hope it gets here soon.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 03, 2014, 12:40:50 PM
I'd hate to have to remove my antennae. I saw how it was installed when they had the fenders off when I had my car restored. If I had to remove the fender
to get at it I think I would rather use a redneck antennae, a coat hanger.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on August 03, 2014, 01:15:26 PM
I think that yours can be accessed from underneath and just dropped out.
 The one on my 94 is real easy to get at, just open the trunk and pull a panel out on the right side.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 03, 2014, 02:40:08 PM
Well, I sure hope I'll never have to do it. I think I've been very fortunate that this car rarely gives me any trouble. It been a good runner for me.
There are a few things that need some minor attention but all in all it's like a Timex Watch, "Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'".
The only thing that doesn't work is the cruise control. The dash switch and lights work but the cruise control won't engage. I'm sure it's an electrical
issue so it's not something I want to fool with trying to repair myself and we all know how difficult, time consuming and $$$$$$$$$ diagnosing an electrical
problem can be.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on August 03, 2014, 02:52:14 PM
My cruise was on again/off again right up until the tranny rebuild.  Now it works  :-)

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 89 brougham on August 03, 2014, 03:51:11 PM
The problem with my cruise control was vacuum-related, not electrical.

jd


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 03, 2014, 04:13:25 PM
Now that you mentioned "Vacuum" I seem to recall someone telling me that could also be the problem. I don't know anything about how it works etc but
I'll see if I can find some info on it.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 03, 2014, 04:48:48 PM
While I was looking for info on the cruise control and Rock Auto popped up so I got an 1985 Eldorado Haynes repair manual for $27 plus $20 to ship.
I don't know how much use I'll get out of it but at least I'll have it.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 03, 2014, 06:54:51 PM

 That Haynes manual will have precious little information in it. Some decent stuff, but generally they are useless. What you need is the proper GM manual.

 You have to remove the right side hood hinge to access the power antenna on your car. The D-cars are much more complicated, the fender has to be pulled out and they drop out the bottom.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 03, 2014, 07:37:11 PM

 Off came Vera's roof today. Not so bad, except that removing the underlay took about 3 hours working away inch by inch. Thanks to the help from my BIL, it was a one day job instead of a 2-day job. I found where the water leak was, a hole under the vinyl in the top windshield channel. And I found the leak into the trunk. The seam sealer was split under the valance between the rear window and the trunk lid. There is also a small hole where the 1/4 panel/roof seam.

 So, I'll sandblast the rusted areas, then epoxy prime them. Then I'll use fiberglass to fill the holes. Then bondo the seam so there's a smooth surface for the roof.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 03, 2014, 07:38:20 PM
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Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on August 03, 2014, 07:46:46 PM
Wow, it's great that this job is getting done.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 03, 2014, 07:50:54 PM
It would be nice to have one I don't think I really need an actual GM manual. I don't get into the kind of repairs that you guys love to do and I don't
have a lot of automotive tools anyway.  My tools are more for doing building construction and carpentry type work. I am familiar with Hanyes books
and I think that's all I need. Just the basic stuff. For the real thing I can go to the Library. I know that Terryberry Library has a lot of manuals available
that I can use if need be.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 03, 2014, 08:02:18 PM

 Thing is these manuals cover a lot of years, and there is a lot of information that is not pertinent to your car. So, given the actual size of the manual compared to a model/year specific manual, you can see that there is a lot missing. But They do cover accessing codes and what they are. But little if anything on diagnosing them.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 03, 2014, 08:22:06 PM
Well, It will make a nice coffee table book or even a great bathroom reader. Ya gotta have something to read while you're in there don't you ?
Maybe not as good as old Playboys but at least it'll be something to read.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 03, 2014, 08:28:42 PM

 Yeah, reading shop manuals can furnish a certain level of entertainment. Maybe once you have read it cover to cover a couple of times, you'll want to go really hardcore and get the FSM.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 03, 2014, 09:05:09 PM
No, I don't think so. I'm not into doing too many of my own repairs anymore. The simple little things, OK, but nothing major. I've done my own alternators a few
times. I used to do my own brakes and I've even changed out the compressor for my car's A/C. Stuff like that I can do, if I have to, but that's all. The more
serious stuff I'll leave for Tony to do. I'd rather he gets his hands dirty than me. Besides, if I do it and screw it up I have to stay with it until I fix it but if he
screws it up then it's his problem. I'd rather side with a professional technician than myself.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 04, 2014, 12:49:04 PM

Working away at it today. I ground out all the rust at the C-pillars, then wet some cheap cloths with rust remover and stuck them to the area with duck tape. That will get tid of the rust inthe pits that I can't get by mechanical means. It's soaking now.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on August 04, 2014, 01:02:05 PM
That looks a lot better, while your at it why not cover the entire roof with duct tape. Maureen will be proud to drive it then. :poke:

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 04, 2014, 01:15:03 PM

   6chin6 Ther's a plan. Some dark blue, or Quebec Chrome?

    <lol>

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 04, 2014, 01:31:02 PM
What you have is certainly a hell of a lot better looking than my roof was. The full width of both pillars and about 3 inches wide there was nothing but a long
gaping hole. It was really ugly. It took him two whole days to weld in new patch pieces and do the bondo thing with it. Even though the roof was going
to covered over his work was so good the vinyl could have been left off.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on August 04, 2014, 02:13:32 PM

Yeah, it is better than I expected. But worse than what I hoped for.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: SpaceShipKing on August 28, 2014, 06:16:38 PM
Adding some custom pin-striping on the trunk of the 78' Coupe DeVille. What y'all think?  8)



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on August 28, 2014, 07:04:15 PM
Nice, is that cut vinyl?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on August 28, 2014, 07:48:28 PM
You've given me a great idea SSK. From your post I figured out how to put the attached images in full size in posts. :)

(http://cadillacinsouthernontario.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=933.0;attach=6197;image)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on August 28, 2014, 08:16:21 PM
Adding some custom pin-striping on the trunk of the 78' Coupe DeVille. What y'all think?  8)



All you need to add to that beauty mark is "Best of all.....it's a Cadillac".  Right, Joe?

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on August 28, 2014, 08:17:26 PM
That's right Sam, and we know someone who has some extras, right? Or.. if he doesn't want to part with his extras I can make one.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on August 28, 2014, 08:25:09 PM
All right already. When I find them.......
RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on August 28, 2014, 08:36:57 PM
Maybe SSK doesn't even want one :)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on August 28, 2014, 08:48:08 PM
Let's get a zoomed out picture of the pin striping, I'd like to see it in perspective of the car.
I've always liked the tasteful pin striping on cream coloured cars.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: SpaceShipKing on August 28, 2014, 09:15:55 PM
I get all my parts on eBay from my interior plush pillows, vinyl interior I custom wrapped, and 7' touch screen in-dash. I can get any type of pin striping design, names too, and yes it is a vinyl.

You simply take a vinyl applicator card or a debit card, some sort of card to apply pressure than pull the backing off an the striping stays on, looks painted on too!

I'll get pictures when its applied.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on August 28, 2014, 09:18:54 PM
If you live in the Hamilton area and want something like that, custom made for you, don;t buy it, let me know what you want. I will cut it for you. No charge unless you want something ridiculous and then it's $1,000,000.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: SpaceShipKing on August 28, 2014, 09:19:24 PM
By the way Havana Joe, your Caddy reminds me of the ones at the start of the GoodFellas movie.

"Wiseguys would pull up and Tuddy would let me park their Cadillac's. Here I am, this little kid, I can't even see over the steering wheel, and I'm parking Cadillac's..."

I got mine because it reminded me of the Caddy near the end the 79' Henry Hill was flying around in, plus I always LOVED the body line on the 70's Caddy's!

Definitely some pin striping would look awesome on your caddy Havana Joe! Also I'll keep that in mind next time I want something custom. Thanks.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on August 28, 2014, 09:21:31 PM
Pin striping on the wheels this winter and when I have all the chrome, eventually, and the paint is done right the body will have the striping.


http://www.hark.com/clips/stlshcnfyn-i-mean-here-i-am-this-little-kid-i-cant-even-see-over-the-steering-wheel-and-im-parking-cadillacs (http://www.hark.com/clips/stlshcnfyn-i-mean-here-i-am-this-little-kid-i-cant-even-see-over-the-steering-wheel-and-im-parking-cadillacs)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: SpaceShipKing on August 28, 2014, 10:11:39 PM
The sound clip.  ;D


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 07, 2014, 11:08:35 AM
I noticed a couple of small paint dings on my car yesterday. One was a small stone chip on the hood and the other was along the lower front edge of the hood that's actually hidden behind the headlight frame when the hood is closed. The headlight frame was rubbing against the paint and wore the paint off.
I went to CTC and bought a tube of touch up paint. It's not the old style tube with a bit of paint and a brush. This is by Dupli-Colour Scratch Fix- All in 1.
It has a small built in prep stick for removing loose paint and rust, a bit of paint with a brush and some clear coat. A bit pricey at $14.00 but should last several years
so I guess it's good value.
As you know the paint on my car is no longer Desert Frost Firemist.  It's something that the computer paint scan put together so we have no idea if this is really an
actual car colour or just a custom mix. The touch up paint is a GM colour called Light Drift Sand Metallic and it's surprising just how close it is to the current body
colour. Once it cures it should buff out, blend in and hardly be noticeable.

RON








Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on September 07, 2014, 11:37:57 AM

 I have road rash on my 94. I touched it up 3 years ago and I've got more to deal with.
When I do get it repainted I'll probably use this on the front of the car to protect it.

http://3mauto.com/paint-defender-spray-film.html#

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 16, 2014, 09:14:51 AM
Went to CTC and got 5 liters of full synthetic Castrol motor oil, oil, fuel and air filters and those two small filters inside the air filter housing. After The
Welland show I'm going to change everything to get it ready for the winter. Tony is getting the car for tomorrow and Thursday to take a look at the brakes
and maybe install that neutral safety switch.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on September 16, 2014, 09:17:07 AM
Are you thinking of heading here for the Plunkett show on Thursday?  Last one of the season.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 16, 2014, 09:30:16 AM

 Fram Filters.   *yikes*

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 16, 2014, 09:32:20 AM
That's a good idea but I don't think so. Pam's sister got a pair of freebee concert tickets from her work for a music show in Port Dover Thursday evening and
she's already committed herself to that. A cruise to Plunkett's would be great but I would only go if Pam went with me.
Maybe next season, OK ?

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 16, 2014, 09:46:28 AM
The air filter is but the oil filter is a M1-206 "Mobil 1 High Capacity Extended Performance" unit with twice the holding capacity of a regular filter.
The box says the canister can withstand 9 times the normal oil system operating pressure and with this filter my new car engine warranty remains
in effect.  Good for 120,000 kms. WOW !  I'll never have to change the oil again, AWESOME !  Nothing but the best, EH ? haha   bananna' bananna'

RON





 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 16, 2014, 09:50:07 AM

Jeez, you had me worried there for a bit.

 Keep in mind, a lot of these fantastic claims on oils are just that. You'll still want to keep at least an annual regimen of oil changes.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 16, 2014, 10:09:07 AM
I don't keep any records. For the few miles I put on this car every year I usually change the oil every other year . I only put about 2500 miles per year
on the car and a lot of that is highway miles, not KMS.
However, I would love to take it on a long extended trip somewhere and really put some miles on it but Pam doesn't feel it could handle a trip like that.
But I really feel that she's thinking more about fuel consumption than reliability.

About that neutral safety switch- you said it was at the bottom of the steering column. Would that be under the dash or under the hood ?

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 16, 2014, 05:42:59 PM
That's a good idea but I don't think so. Pam's sister got a pair of freebee concert tickets from her work for a music show in Port Dover Thursday evening and
she's already committed herself to that. A cruise to Plunkett's would be great but I would only go if Pam went with me.
Maybe next season, OK ?

RON

I talked to her about it and she would have gone in a heartbeat but said for me to go on my own. Give me some info as to times etc and I'll think about it.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on September 16, 2014, 05:52:04 PM
Hi Ronnie (and anyone else that wants to attend).  The Plunkett show starts 5 ish and goes to dusk.  There is a DJ playing 50-60's music and the local Lion's club makes BBQ burger, sausage, hot dogs etc.  There is sometimes an ice cream cart (really good local stuff).  It's a chance for you to see what Plunkett's grounds really look like...without 4,000 other cars.  It's a beautiful, serene place.  If Steve is about, he usually walks around and talks to people.  Show runs whether he's in town or not.  This being the last show of the season, it's "junk in the trunk" night which allows you to sell/buy parts, magazines etc.  It's very much like our Cambridge show, but with a lot more cars :-)  If you want to meet up here, we can caravan to the show.  My address is 21163 Springfield Rd, Melbourne.  If you want my phone number(s) pls PM me.  If anyone needs to stay over and drive home in sunlight, we have 2 guest rooms - and a couch; which you would share with the cats <g>

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 16, 2014, 06:13:40 PM
If I go I'll leave here about 3:30 and I can only stay 'till 7 or 7:30. Unless you have a back door way to get there I will probably be at the Tim Horton's
on Col. Talbot.


RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 16, 2014, 06:33:44 PM
Actually if I leave here at 3:30 I may as well just go straight to Steve's and see you there.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on September 16, 2014, 07:15:18 PM
That makes sense.  I'll leave early and set out some chairs.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on September 17, 2014, 10:42:43 AM
I'd like to go, but 1AM comes pretty early.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on September 18, 2014, 08:10:29 PM
Renewed my stickers on Chester. Now I can put it away for winter any time now.   I had it at work today so I got a bunch of the engineer's to go for a ride to grab lunch.   Ever one of them was ooooing and awwwing over how nice the ride was compared to modern cars.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on September 18, 2014, 09:45:11 PM
Instead of aiming to please automotive "journalists" by spending too much time running around "Lutz Ring" and the Nürburgring, they should focus on ensuring all cars can drive on Toronto roads and make it back without any bent rims or spinal injuries.  Oh, and the fancy hydraulic control arm bushings need to last 300K.  :)

What about the hard modern seats?  Is this another case of "journalists" favouring seating that keeps drivers upright on a race course?  We need all day comfort in North America; in other parts of the world, you run out of highway after a few hours.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 19, 2014, 07:01:47 AM

 That's really interesting. I think that should be a requirement of the job, to take snapshots of the past like that. For good or bad. I would have liked to be there to see and hear their reactions to what was considered the norm in an American luxury cars.

 In reading Lutz's book, he puts a lot of the blame no the mainstream automotive press for the way cars are made today. The harsh suspensions and seats. In general, the Europeanisation of cars. They are fanatically focused on what they consider makes a European or Japanese car good, and have an utter dissent for what an American car is.

 And it's for that reason that I stopped reading the mainstream new car rags, the overwhelming bias and coverage of European and Japanese cars.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on September 19, 2014, 11:20:57 AM
Journalists should have to do a 6 hour drive in all cars they write about.
 Then they will bitch about how sore their back is, journalists should also be taller than 6 feet.
 20 minutes in a Honda Civic and I'm in agony.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 19, 2014, 11:22:24 AM
My horns stopped working. I used them a couple of weeks ago on the highway. One of them quit right then and the other stopped working last week.
I got into a repair this morning. The driver side horn wire had fallen off because it wasn't put on properly but the one behind the battery is dead. It is a
sealed unit and can't be opened. I found a pair of Fiamm horns in my parts stash and used one of them to get the dual tone again but I need to get the
proper horn from the wreckers.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 19, 2014, 03:24:30 PM

 I have to do a horn scavenger hunt too.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 19, 2014, 03:41:31 PM
I think I'll pass on Rockton tomorrow and after a few errands head out to Mike Auto Wreckers in Upper Stoney Creek and see what they have.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 19, 2014, 03:47:51 PM

I await your report!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 20, 2014, 09:29:29 AM
I'm gonna have to wait 'til next week to hit the wrecking yard. Got a lot more to do here today than I thought. I also have to put together some tools to take
to the wreckers. What is it you are looking for Mike, other than horns ?

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 20, 2014, 09:48:26 AM

 Nothing really in particular. It's just good to know what's out there.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 20, 2014, 10:50:05 AM
I'll take Pam's ipad and take some pics if I see anything.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 20, 2014, 10:54:28 AM

 Cool!  rock:on

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on September 20, 2014, 01:00:49 PM
Once I install the horns I have in Chester and peach, I'll see what is left over for grabs.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on September 25, 2014, 01:19:22 PM
I got the 82 running yesterday. It's been sitting for 2 1/2 months.
 I had the battery dis connected and it went flat? -scratch/ so I got out the battery charger and let it sit for an hour and it fired right up. Last time I drove it the brakes were pulsating really bad so that's why it sat for so long, but they aren't doing it anymore 6chin6.
 The pedal does go almost to the floor though, so Saturday will be the day to check everything out.
After taking it for a drive it felt good, then I noticed that the left turn signal wasn't flashing. Replaced a burned out bulb and all is good now.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 25, 2014, 03:13:07 PM

Yeah, we'll have a look see at the brakes on Saturday. See about getting everything right. But that car has always had a low pedal.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on September 26, 2014, 10:47:18 AM
I stuffed my foot onto the pedal hard, it slowed down OK, but I couldn't get the brakes to lock.
 If I hit the brakes that hard in the 94 it will put you through the windshield.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 26, 2014, 05:30:45 PM

 We'll make sure everything is set up properly. Then the pedal should be better. If not, we'll have to look deeper.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on September 28, 2014, 12:18:33 PM
Started clay barring and waxing DCC to protect her from the road crud that will be arriving before we know it  .no.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on September 28, 2014, 01:37:10 PM
I got the brakes done on the 82 yesterday at my brothers place, then we drank some beer drink/o/beer
It was a good day.
 The pedal is still low but it stops a lot better. I can't lock the wheels but I can hear the tires starting to screech when I hit them hard.
 Now I just have to change the coolant, fix the passenger door handle and get it oil sprayed and it's ready for the winter. snow/plow

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on September 28, 2014, 01:52:37 PM
Yup, Coolant is due. I should do Chester next spring. Do you still have the sealant tabs from the last time?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on September 28, 2014, 02:52:04 PM
Why do we need to do the coolant?  (yet another dumb newbie question)  -uh-

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on September 28, 2014, 02:55:15 PM
That's an HT-4100 thing (82-85)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on September 28, 2014, 03:00:45 PM
Me and Cali are heading off for the last regularly scheduled weekly cruise-in of the season - CT Dundas E., London. ON

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 28, 2014, 04:51:52 PM

 Coolant every 2 years regardless of mileage.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on September 28, 2014, 05:59:56 PM
Pam and I took the car to the Last chance show in Welland today. It was supposed to start at 9 am but the park was more than 1/2 full by then. The line up to
get in the park was almost a mile long but moved quickly so it only took about 20 minutes to get in. It was a continuous non stop line of cars into the early
afternoon.
Last year they said 1100 cars showed up and the back field was almost empty. Today it was completely filled up so there must have been at least 2500 cars
of every description today. It was the perfect day for a show this big. The weather was awesome but this damn arthritis in my feet didn't let me get in too much
sightseeing so I know I missed seeing a lot of really nice cars. The grounds there are very large and kind of rough which puts a strain on walking so the feet and
ankles quickly start to hurt.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on September 28, 2014, 06:38:04 PM
Why do we need to do the coolant?  (yet another dumb newbie question)  -uh-

Sam

Mike is correct; it's always best to follow the manufacturer's maintenance recommendations, which is a drain and refill every 2 years for most cars with standard duty coolant.  Models that were originally filled with long-life coolant may have longer change intervals.

Engine coolant comes into contact with many different metals and requires corrosion inhibitors that wear out over time.  Freeze protection and boiling point elevation are dependent on the concentration of the alcohol component (ethylene glycol mostly), which won't change as long as the same concentration (normally 50%, though up to 70% may be required in extremely cold conditions) solution is used for top-ups.  When the corrosion inhibitors are no longer effective, lead solder joints oxidize and fall apart, aluminum begins to migrate from hot areas and accumulate in cold areas which may lead to porosity and obstructed pathways, head gaskets collapse, silicates drop out of suspension and clog heat exchangers, etc.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on September 28, 2014, 08:20:58 PM
Why do we need to do the coolant?  (yet another dumb newbie question)  -uh-

Sam

Mike is correct; it's always best to follow the manufacturer's maintenance recommendations, which is a drain and refill every 2 years for most cars with standard duty coolant.  Models that were originally filled with long-life coolant may have longer change intervals.

Engine coolant comes into contact with many different metals and requires corrosion inhibitors that wear out over time.  Freeze protection and boiling point elevation are dependent on the concentration of the alcohol component (ethylene glycol mostly), which won't change as long as the same concentration (normally 50%, though up to 70% may be required in extremely cold conditions) solution is used for top-ups.  When the corrosion inhibitors are no longer effective, lead solder joints oxidize and fall apart, aluminum begins to migrate from hot areas and accumulate in cold areas which may lead to porosity and obstructed pathways, head gaskets collapse, silicates drop out of suspension and clog heat exchangers, etc.

So I'm guessing if I can't remember the last time I changed the coolant, I should do it sooner than later   <doh!>

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on September 28, 2014, 08:38:18 PM
I suppose I've been lucky that there has always been some reason for why I've needed to replace the coolant  bang/head (leaky water pump, rotted radiator, etc)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on September 29, 2014, 06:45:10 AM

 That's pretty much the reason why I've changed coolant too.

 But, if you can`t remember the last time you changed it, this year would be a good time to start.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on September 29, 2014, 01:55:32 PM
If maintained well, a radiator or heater core should last until too many fins fall off (soldered copper/brass) or the plastic inlet tank cracks (some aluminum core units).  The original heater core in the 1991 STS is aluminum with plastic tanks, and a longitudinal crack recently developed around the inlet fitting (hottest area), allowing coolant to seep onto the front passenger mat.  The core is still in perfect condition with no internal flow obstructions despite copious use of the GM cooling system pellets (required for the Cadillac 4.X series); it is likely that most cases of core blockage are due to silicate sludge from poor maintenance.  This system was converted to silicate-free OAT coolant (Dex-Cool) 14 years ago and there have been no internal corrosion-related issues to date.  The aluminum radiator is still original except for the plastic end tanks which were replaced 9 years ago as preventative maintenance.

Note that a simple drain and refill only takes care of about 2/3rds of the total capacity, as ~1/3rd remains in the engine block, hoses, heater core, etc..   If the maintenance history is unknown, it would be worthwhile draining it again after a few months.  Flushing with water introduces more variables, as one attempts to calculate how much pure antifreeze to add to achieve a 50% solution; the best way is to always add a known concentration, since coolant hydrometers are far from accurate.  Even pulling the block drains doesn't get rid of all remaining liquid.  The corrosion inhibitor package is designed to work in the 50-70% range, though may perform best at 50%; use distilled water.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on September 29, 2014, 03:12:14 PM
Would R/O water substitute or should I purchase distilled?  We have a home R/O system.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on September 29, 2014, 03:43:17 PM
Reverse osmosis water would be fine.  The main thing is to avoid contaminants (at a high enough concentration) that might affect the performance of the corrosion inhibitors; they're designed to mix with readily available "tap water" (however that's defined), but it helps to try to avoid potential issues that may not have shown up in the lab. :)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on September 30, 2014, 11:00:17 AM
I always buy the pre mix coolant so there isn't any question of what the ratio is and it has distilled water in it.
  
 I had heard a while back that converting to Dex cool was a bad idea for two reasons.
 I had heard a lot of bad things about dex cool, that it actually caused more harm than good and that dex cool should only be put into a system that had it from day one, as coolant will coat the entire system.
I have read quite a few complaints that dex cool caused the breakdown of gaskets.
If it had the green stuff previously then long life coolant doesn't have any benefit whatsoever.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on September 30, 2014, 02:06:51 PM
If they sold pre-mixed 50% coolant solutions for half the cost of the undiluted product, I'd consider it.  :)   From the prices I've seen, you're way ahead of the game purchasing distilled water and mixing your own!

There's a lot of misinformation and speculation floating around when it comes to Dex-Cool.  The regular green coolant contains silicates which work by "plating" internal surfaces.  Since testing had shown that the organic acid inhibitors would deplete more quickly when exposed to silicates, a very conservative service recommendation was made to not extend the drain intervals if a system had any prior exposure to silicates.  In practice, a contaminated OAT package would still out-perform fresh green coolant at the 2 year mark, which is why Texaco did not make the same conservative statements as GM.  OAT coolants have been in use from the late '70s in military equipment.  The lack of silicates means it can remain inactive for long periods of time without sludge formation (silicate drop-out), somewhat ideal for cars in storage.   Due to their abrasive nature, silicates contribute to higher waterpump seal wear rates.  I'd like to what scientific evidence was presented to establish a causal relationship between Dex-Cool and gasket failure.  

One significant difference with OAT coolants is they only protect surfaces with which they come into contact; no plating is involved (which actually reduces thermal transfer rates).  This means that if a low coolant condition is allowed to persist for long enough, the products of metal corrosion (e.g. iron oxide) could discolour the coolant and eventually cause radiator cap sealing issues; a TSB was released for Vortec engines to address this possible condition, which is clearly a case of owner negligence.  Hot surface aluminum protection is far superior to silicates.  There was some fear mongering early on that you couldn't use Dex-Cool in a copper/brass radiator because it would attack the solder, which contradicted the research from Texaco.  Almost every solder joint I've seen in a radiator that's been exposed to green coolant has significant amounts of corrosion (solder bloom) which obstructs the tubes to varying degrees.  This does not happen with Dex-Cool.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on October 14, 2014, 11:34:32 AM
I got rid of that annoying rattling that was caused by the loose heat shield rattling against the right tailpipe.
  The proper fix would have been to drop the gas tank and re fasten it from above, however a hammer worked quite well. I just bent it so it is tight against the tail pipe and the tank. I hope it lasts.
 I also noticed that the right end of the air deflector was hanging down. The screw that holds it against the center piece had broken away from the plastic so I tried to remove the other screw and the head snapped right off it.
  The entire deflector (3 pieces) needs to be replaced as it has gotten very brittle.
Anyone know where I can score a new one? Rock auto doesn't even have it listed.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 14, 2014, 07:56:27 PM
I'd be worried the heat shield touching both the tank and the exhaust will actually conduct the heat to the tank instead of shield it.  When moving it wouldn't be an issue,  but during extended idling  -uh-


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on October 15, 2014, 12:27:21 PM
I don't think it's a problem. The heat shield is still between the tank and the tail pipe. It's the lower corner that I bent up to touch the tank to stop it from rattling.
 The tail pipe doesn't get that hot. A couple of times the guys at the Mufflerman have told me to just remove it.
I'm not sure I want to go that far.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 27, 2014, 08:45:52 AM
Stood in the garage and showed Chester off to one of the neighbours.   -uh-


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 27, 2014, 09:23:47 AM

 That counts. Appreciating your Cadillac.  +wave+

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on October 27, 2014, 12:49:33 PM
Haven't seen mine for the past week and a half and still waiting for a report on what's ailing it. Hoping to pay a visit tomorrow.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on October 27, 2014, 01:30:20 PM
The passenger door handle on the 82 seized up real good, so today I pulled the door panel and got in there with a can of Krown and sprayed everything real good. After 15 minutes of working everything back and forth it's as smoth as butter now. I was even able to re use all the Christmas tree clips. I'm getting good at this, last year I had to do the same to the drivers door.  While I had the can of Krown out I decided to spray under the hood of the 94 as well as the rad support and everywhere I could see rust around any bolts on the inner fender wells.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 27, 2014, 05:11:25 PM

The roof is in the process and should be done today. But now logistics is proving to be a challenge. My assitant has had to back out because of a death in the family. I was going to pick it up tomorrow or Wednesday.

The passenger door handle on the 82 seized up real good, so today I pulled the door panel and got in there with a can of Krown and sprayed everything real good. After 15 minutes of working everything back and forth it's as smoth as butter now. I was even able to re use all the Christmas tree clips. I'm getting good at this, last year I had to do the same to the drivers door.  While I had the can of Krown out I decided to spray under the hood of the 94 as well as the rad support and everywhere I could see rust around any bolts on the inner fender wells.

GJ

 Those handles are ongoing. The pivot pin rusts and the rocker seizes. Many times the door gets jammed shut and tou have a real challenge on your hands.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on October 27, 2014, 05:24:18 PM
Vinyl roof , doing that yourself ?

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 27, 2014, 10:24:36 PM

 No. Leaving that to the proffessional. It's being done by one of the best.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on October 28, 2014, 12:27:20 PM
Got the coolant changed on both cars today. I'll be getting the 82 Krowned soon and then I'll be all ready for winter.
 I think the 82 Needs a new battery.............. again!
I left it dis connected when I wasn't driving it but it drained anyway. Had it running yesterday, but no start today.
 I'm going to leave it on trickle charge all day long. If it doesn't hold overnight then I'll replace it.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 28, 2014, 06:05:11 PM
 
 I hear Gary Porter popped by.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on October 29, 2014, 02:42:00 PM
Yup, offered me a bumper, but it was for the wrong car.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 29, 2014, 02:50:34 PM

 I'm gonna go by his place and look at it. I'll probably pick it up.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 31, 2014, 02:45:34 PM
Well, it wasn't mine, but today's drive car was an ELR. It has tons of features and gadgets, but the comfort wasn't there. By the time I got to it there was no battery juice left, but the motor was quite peppy.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on October 31, 2014, 04:22:47 PM
Electric motors are great for low-end torque.  Did the range extender become objectionably noisy after a period of aggressive driving?  Did you find the relationship between engine RPM and the rate of acceleration a bit disconcerting at first?  I understand the ELR is quieter than the Volt.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on October 31, 2014, 04:49:58 PM
It was very quiet and it drove just as a normal car would.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on October 31, 2014, 05:12:06 PM

 We have some Nova Hybrids at work. They are a series system meaning that the deisel engine is blended in to assist the electric motors at higher speeds. But on launch and lower speeds, it's all electric. Acceleration is deceiving. It's like driving a big golf cart. Very silent save for the continual drone of the deisel in the back.

 I expect the ELR to drive much the same way. But since it's based on the Volt, it would hve similarities there as well.

 Mi,e


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on November 11, 2014, 10:39:14 AM
This morning I gave the old girl a nice hand wash and dry and a short run on the highway to dry her off.
Gas tank is almost full but I forgot to put in some Stabil in to preserve the quality of the fuel. 
Hooked up the trickle charger and ran a cord to the garage.
I have to get my butt in gear and get that garage cleared out over the winter because wrapping her up seemed to be more of a job this year than
in the past. The hard part is figuring out where to start. I have a lot stuff and no where to put it all.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 11, 2014, 10:42:15 AM

 I know just what you mean. I have a garage that's an ongoing project to keep workable.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on November 11, 2014, 11:25:21 AM
I'm a power hand tool junkie, mostly for woodworking, and have multiples of some. Spare batteries for them are quite pricey and I found it much
cheaper to a just buy another drill kit on sale and get a battery, the drill and a charger for a lot less. The only thing is I now have 5 different brands
of drills. I have 3 power hand saws. A 40 year old Craftsman for masonary use only, a Makita for wood and a small Ryobi with a 4 1/2" blade.
I also have all the usual non-power woodworking hand tools along with the bigger machines and all this stuff takes up space.
I guess the best way to start would be gather and sort everything into one place and go from there. My garage is heated so the cold is not a problem.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 15, 2014, 03:16:55 PM
I got the day off work yesterday so I finally got the garage all cleaned up, I got my tools all organized and easily accessible for working on the cars.  I got my compressor and air tools set up to finally have a power tool setup for the cars.
After organizing, I did a little work on Chester. I did the front shocks and installed the 4 note horns I bought a while ago (the kids had some friends over to visit and they all took turns pressing the horn after I finished  ;D)
I took the Wildcat for a spin and found that the upper rad hose has a pin hole leak in it. I'll order one of those soon enough. I can't get over how great the car is running with the new carb.
I did the oil changes on Peach and Rocky and my compressor (it's only been 4 years) and put winter tires on Rocky. I'll be picking up winter rims and tires for Peach this week.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 26, 2014, 08:25:34 AM

 Just made an appointment with Krown to get Victoria and Vera done tomorrow.... One less thing to worry about.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on November 26, 2014, 09:47:05 AM
I haven't got the 82 sprayed yet, but I might not have to if I buy another car.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on November 26, 2014, 10:08:50 AM
This Crown rustproofing, do you have get it done every year ? what does it cost to refresh ?

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on November 26, 2014, 10:14:59 AM
It's $120 for first application, I don't recall if it's cheaper to get it done after the first application.
 Yes it should be done every year if your driving in the winter.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 26, 2014, 11:12:31 AM

 They guarantee the same price every year.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on November 26, 2014, 01:57:42 PM
I don't understand why it has to done every year at $120 a pop. What happens to the previous year's treatment ? Does it leak out or evaporate ?
Is it water soluble ?  I would think that if it soaks into all the places it's supposed to go that it would stay there and not have to be redone again.
Having to redo it every year for $120 doesn't sound right to me. Forgive me for saying so but I think it's more of a cash grab than anything else.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 26, 2014, 05:11:41 PM
 Oil, or oil based products are the only thing that are effective in fighting rust over the long term. Nothing else approaches the effectiveness, nothing. However, in the heavily exposed areas, it does tend to get depleted somewhat. So a reapplication is necessary. After time repeated applications build up a coating that is pretty much impermeable and rust cannot start.

 It's what it is, and no it's not a cash grab. Oil under coating has been with us for a very long time, and there are good products out there that work better than just good old oil.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on November 26, 2014, 06:19:49 PM
Well, that goes to show ya what I know about rustproofing. I think we've only had one of our cars rustproofed some years ago and it had only the one
application. We don't keep our cars for much more than 5 years or so so rusting isn't something that we worry about.  
The last cars we had that had rust was that '88 Buick LeSabre Ltd back in the early 90's and my first Hyundai Elantra, a 2001 had some rust on the rear
quarters where the fender met up with the plastic bumper cover at the rear doors. A lot of Elantras rusted there.
I was looking at something about rustproofing on the computer this afternoon and it said that vehicles made after, I think it was 1990, have had factory
rustproofing built into them and that further rustproofing wasn't necessary. You wouldn't know that though by looking at some of the older pickup trucks
running around, especially Dodges. It also said not to let the new car dealer pressure you into rustproofing your new car, that it was a waste of money.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on November 26, 2014, 10:29:30 PM

 I drive older cars that I like to keep as long as I can, and this is the most important aspect of keeping them over the long term. Without it, car ownership would be decidedly short term.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on November 27, 2014, 06:14:37 AM
After even half a year of highway driving I noticed that the oil had mostly dried off the frame of peach, but it's been a year and a half since I did Chester and it looks like it was done yesterday.
It all depends on usage.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on November 27, 2014, 11:35:53 AM
Any petroleum product will dry out over time. When oil dries out it turns to a tar like substance and will start to crack allowing moisture to get underneath it. Detergents from the car wash will deplete it as well.
 Even if you don't keep your cars very long, if it has been Krowned every year it will have a higher resale value.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on December 05, 2014, 06:51:32 PM
Yesterday was perfect....sun shining, air cold enough to freeze mud and puddles, so I took the 81 out for a nice drive.  Got up to the pet store to get cat food, turn off the car and hear a motor front right side growling (?) and my antenna is NOT moving.  I get out and grab the antenna and try to push it down.  No go.  I open the hood and try to see where the motor is so I can unplug it.  Too many wires staring at me, and I'm afraid up unplug something that might require me to call a tow truck.  I run into the bank, run to the pet store and then call my mechanic (yes, I have his home number) and I drive straight to his house.  He finds the correct wire and unplugs the antenna motor.  So now, my antenna is UP and is staying up until, well, until I figure out how to fix the damn thing.  This car LOVES to give me heartache.  I wanted a red caddy my whole life and finally got one....but she's "high maintenance".   cursin>  sigh.  Ain't love grand?

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 05, 2014, 06:57:10 PM
Oh yes, antenna woes. I'm wondering if the cable broke at the motor side.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on December 05, 2014, 07:21:16 PM
Oh yes, antenna woes. I'm wondering if the cable broke at the motor side.

Feel free to come on over and have a peek   -uh-

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 05, 2014, 07:53:14 PM

 Ah yes, a common issue. The plastic string breaks and the motor continues to run. At one time you could buy what they called a mast kit, and replace that. Others install an aftermarket, which works good if you get a quality unit.

 I have been playing with them off and on for years. I thought I found the proper cable, a weed wacker string, however it just bound up on itself after a few cycles. I'm still looking for the right string....

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 05, 2014, 09:46:05 PM
Oh yes, antenna woes. I'm wondering if the cable broke at the motor side.

Feel free to come on over and have a peek   -uh-

Sam
Would if I could but the holidays are upon us.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on December 06, 2014, 08:42:05 AM
I've been lucky with antennae on my car. It still works properly but being the factory original, having the cable break crosses my mind every time I use it.
My car celebrated it 30th birthday last week.  happy/birthday  It was built Nov 30 1984. After 30 years the antennae could go anytime and it's not something
that's easy to get at.
I try to keep the mast sections clean. Several times a year I put a bit of degreaser on a cloth and wipe the dirt off the mast then I use a few drops of
Lucas "Tool Box Buddy" Home & Shop Oil to re-lubricate the mast. It's a light oil for air tools and I think it helps to keep the antennae working like it should.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on December 06, 2014, 09:42:45 AM
I'd suggest installing some sort of toggle switch in the antenna circuit if this hasn't been done already.  Not only would this allow one to control the height of the antenna (like in the older models), the power can be kept off so there won't be an unexpected dead battery after the drive cable breaks (in the middle of the night, thanks to Murphy) and the motor starts running.  Newer designs switch the circuit based on mast position, but these rely on drive cable tension.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 06, 2014, 09:54:23 AM
When the cable broke on my 89 park ave, I was on a road trip to Illinois. I unplugged the connector at the antenna and there were "ghosts" in the system for the rest of the trip (radio worked but screen went blank, climate control wouldn't change settings no matter what buttons you pressed, etc...). Everything went back to normal when I put the new antenna in and hooked the wires back up.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on December 06, 2014, 10:34:43 AM
The circuit diagram might confirm that one of the wires to that Park Avenue's antenna may have been providing an intentional or unintentional ground path for one or more electronic modules.  This won't be an issue in the case of the 1979-85 E-car.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on December 06, 2014, 11:38:45 AM
Sam I have had to replace the mast on my 94 and then I had to replace the cable this past summer on my 94.
 It is an easy job once you get the antenna out (easy on my 94 as it's mounted in the trunk).
 There is a company called "Antenna Mast Runs" however they don't list the cable for your Eldorado but you can give them a call @ 920-686-0644
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Delco-Cadillac-ELDORADO-Power-Antenna-Mast-CABLE-NEW-/370527986562?hash=item5645306382&vxp=mtr

Rock Auto also sells a complete antenna replacement for $180.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 09, 2014, 07:15:00 AM

 The right hood hinge has to be removed on the Eldo to replace the antenna, but that is still easier than replacement on the D-Car (up to '92). The fender has to be unbolted from the bottom and it extracted that way.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on December 09, 2014, 08:33:01 AM
Hmm, so I order the part, then throw a CISO party in my toy box, leave the new part, tools, pizza and beer laying around; then POOF my antenna problems are over   =rofl=

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on December 09, 2014, 08:40:29 AM
Even I would drive that far for free pizza.  :laugh:

For a temporary fix why not rig up a redneck antennea ? Straighten out an old wire coat hanger, paint it silver and stick it in the hole. =rofl=

RON



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on December 09, 2014, 08:46:53 AM
Luckily the antenna is stuck in the up position, so the radio still works  :poke:

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on December 09, 2014, 08:54:36 AM
You are lucky in that respect. You said that you are going to have your car refinished. Why not just wait until then to replace the antennae because
if they are stripping the body of it's chrome trim the fenders will have to removed to be able to remove the fender spears. The new antennae can
be installed then.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 09, 2014, 08:56:15 AM

 There's a plan...... -yes-

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on December 09, 2014, 08:58:45 AM
Once in a while I come up with a good one.  :laugh:

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on December 09, 2014, 09:25:29 AM
You guys are getting OLD <g>  I suggest a repair party with FREE pizza and beer and you guys come up with a "reasonable response".  My idea is more fun   whoo/hoo

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 09, 2014, 09:46:55 AM

 Pizza Party yeah! But can you appreciate how difficult it is to be reasonable in the face of such temptation?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on December 09, 2014, 09:56:21 AM
Reasonable? What does that mean?

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on December 09, 2014, 10:18:44 AM

 Pizza Party yeah! But can you appreciate how difficult it is to be reasonable in the face of such temptation?

 Mike

Nah


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 14, 2014, 12:21:16 PM
 On Vera, I replaced the body fuse that got fried yesterday (the body of the fuse was even melted), then replaced the left turn cancel spring on the signal switch. Then I verified where the rattle in the engine compartment was coming from. It is indeed the AIR pump. And it wasn't even a 1 beer job.....  

 So I looked at Rock Auto. $153 delivered. Not money I want to spend now. So I'm pondering on bypassing it, But I'll need an idler pulley and bracket. Then in order to remove all the other components, I need to install resistors in the connectors on the divertor valve to keep the Service Soon light out. Something to investigate. GM trucks used this same engine sans the pump in heavy half and 3/4 ton trucks. But it sure will make the engine a lot easier to work on and clean it up a lot.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 14, 2014, 01:10:12 PM
I've got a spare lo5 air pump


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 14, 2014, 01:20:17 PM
I could bring it when we are traveling for Christmas gatherings.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 14, 2014, 05:38:36 PM

Yeah? Perfect. I want it so long as it's a little bit cheaper, OK? +wave+

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 14, 2014, 06:09:58 PM
How does free sound?
I broke the vacuum valve on Peach last winter at GJ's. I posted a want ad on a wagon forum. A got a response from a guy in Kingston who deleted the system from his car. He gave me the valve for free and insisted I take the pump along with it.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on December 14, 2014, 06:34:17 PM
Cool - I love when people "pay it forward".   -yes-

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 14, 2014, 06:43:29 PM
I may raise the price to a beer or two depending on travel schedules


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 15, 2014, 07:48:23 AM

 I can easily accommodate that. I'll look forward to seeing you!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on December 15, 2014, 10:13:23 AM
I posted a want ad on a wagon forum. A got a response from a guy in Kingston who deleted the system from his car. He gave me the valve for free and insisted I take the pump along with it.

I may even know who it is. Is his first name Doug?

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 15, 2014, 03:09:35 PM

 Under the hood of Victoria today. The idle has been of particularly low quality, so I looked at the most likely cause, vavuum hoses. I found 2 broken, each from a port on the manifold. The one at the front was causing an engine miss, the one at the rear was just ready to let go. So now, the idle quality is much improved.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 15, 2014, 06:50:15 PM
I posted a want ad on a wagon forum. A got a response from a guy in Kingston who deleted the system from his car. He gave me the valve for free and insisted I take the pump along with it.

I may even know who it is. Is his first name Doug?

GJ

Nope,  young guy named Ben.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on December 19, 2014, 05:48:01 PM
WOOHOO!   whoo/hoo

I dropped the Eldo off at Quality Auto Restoration today.  They're going to strip off all the shiny bits and get them un-dented and polished; take off doors, trunk and hood; then strip and paint (including the trunk at my request).  The will colour match as best as possible, then clear coat.

The only part I may have to find for them is the chrome piece surrounding the driver's side lights (front).  It appears to be chromed plastic (yuck) and it's all bubbled.  The passenger side has no bubbles.  Before I spend hours googling, does anyone have any ideas?

They will replace the hand painted pinstripes with tape (doesn't bother me) and a put new seal around the front windshield.  They were very impressed with my shiny "new" roof (thank you Ronnie!). 

I got really lucky.  When I first approached them late summer for a quote, they said they had a lot of work lined up (with past, returning big $$ customers) and probably couldn't fit me in.  Then it didn't look like Bruce's contract would be renewed (they waited til the 11th hour to re-up) so when I called yesterday to see if they could fit me in, I was surprised to hear "sure"!  Two of their clients backed out last minute, and the shop is empty save for a motorcycle paint job.  I've never seen their place empty - usually so full that some cars are stacked.  Timing met opportunity for both the shop and myself.  They are glad to get the work and I am glad I'm not on a waiting list.  Serendipity!  They even said they'd take a look at the antennae for me  -yes-  I am SO looking forward to cruise season!!  whoo/hoo

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 19, 2014, 06:30:04 PM

 Very nice! Dreamer will look like a million bucks all painted up. And thanks for the warning. I'll be sure to wear my sunglasses, That red will be really bright.

 And good that Bruce had his contract renewed. But leaving it to the last minute can be torture.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 19, 2014, 08:22:51 PM
Awesome news all around!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on December 20, 2014, 08:56:58 AM
That sounds pretty much what they did to my car when it was redone during the winter of '08-'09 but as far as I know they didn't take the doors
off, however the windshield came out and was replaced because it had that sandblasted look and was difficult to see through in the sun.
The hood and trunk lid were removed but the undersides were not touched and still carry the original paint and factory stickers.
They did paint the door jambs and the insides of the doors because the idiots removed the factory tire spec sticker instead of masking it. Fortunately
Joe thinks he can recreate that one for me but make sure they don't remove yours.
I would really have preferred to have had the original paint colour  "Desert Frost Firemist"  put back on but that's a lacquer based paint and most body
shops have switched to water based paint now so no colour formulas are available. The computerized paint scanner will create a colour formula so
close to the original that any difference in colour will be negligible. You cannot see any colour differences in the new paint and the old on my car.
However way they do it will make a huge difference in the car's presentation and will be worth the expense which I would think is considerably higher
than what it cost me. I wound up with a mid 4 digit price tag but today it would probably be in low 5's.
If you can try to keep a photographic record of all the steps in the refinishing process and put together an album like I did.
Can't wait to see it's rebirth.
BTW I have some spare headlight frames with decent chrome but I will have to dig them out to see how good they are.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on December 21, 2014, 12:04:58 PM
This seems to be the year for some major fixups of our cars. Mike's new vinyl top, Sam's Eldorado in for a make over and now Ray Barr's car
is getting the business too. Ray is a friend of mine and a club member here in Hamilton. 
You may have seen Ray's car at Doon. It's a red '77 CDV, with a white vinyl top and white leather interior. I was talking to him this morning
and he said his car is in for a winter makeover, a complete repaint, a new vinyl top and a new dash pad. He had some touch up body and
paint work done recently that went sour (the paint was left with a white haze) so he decided to do the entire car over properly. 
It's always been a great looking car but this will make it spectacular.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on December 22, 2014, 09:16:47 AM
I thought his car was spectacular the last time I saw it.

As for getting work done to cars, It looks like 2015 will be the year for my 94.
 It will be getting a new vinyl top in April then it will be getting repainted from the rear doors back and have a new trunk lid on it. I just need to find a good rear bumper for it.
 I did get a lot of the issues with the interior fixed last spring. I just need a drivers side B pillar trim piece.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 23, 2014, 06:30:55 PM
I didn't do anything perse..  but I made an executive decision.
I was poking around in the shed when I came across the small donut spare that came in Rocky.  The car probably originally came with a full size spare but the old man who owned it must have replaced it to get more storage space (I've found all kinds of things stuffed in every nook and cranny of that car). I've already replaced the spare with a full size and didn't know what to do with the donut.  But I've decided to put it in Chester.   The full size spare in Chester doesn't fit right and the carpeting piece that I have to cover the wheel was clearly only meant for a donut. Now I know the 90's broughams have the same bolt pattern as the wagons, so I've just got to figure out if the 80's did as well.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on December 23, 2014, 07:00:51 PM
The RWD C/D cars of that generation have the same bolt pattern (5 x 127 mm)  as the B-car wagons.  B-car sedans generally had the smaller wheels and brakes.  Some compact spares have a dual bolt pattern.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on December 23, 2014, 07:36:01 PM
That's what I thought, the spare is only for the large bolt pattern. Good to confirm Chester has the same.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on December 23, 2014, 10:24:55 PM
 
 Yes, the Cadillacs, wagons and police cars have the 5" bolt pattern. I also beleive that all the 91-96 B/D sedans have the 5" bolt pattern. The wheel;s on Vera came from an early 90's Caprice sedan.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 05, 2015, 10:01:18 AM

 I got home from work last night. I couldn't get out of the car. Both front doors were frozen. So I had to climb over the seat and exit from one of the rear doors. On Friday, the exhaust went too. Pipe rusted ahead of the convertor. It's noisy as hell right now. Plus I haven't had the chance to replace the AIR pump yet. So with the noisy exhaust and the rattling AIR pump, Vera is sounding pretty dreadful.

 I hope those doors thaw soon, but it doesn't look good in the near future.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 05, 2015, 10:26:59 AM
Is it the linkage or the seals?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 05, 2015, 10:30:44 AM

 Linkage. Funny, I got in the car no problem, then drove home. On the right door, it still has that broken latch which requires I lock and unlock that door with the key. But the windows were frozen shut too. So I couldn't lower the window and unlock the door.

 I gotta get these little issues fixed on that car when the weather gets better......

 But first the exhaust. Then if there is a decent day when I'm home I'll get to that AIR pump.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on January 05, 2015, 10:46:55 AM
My doors freeze too, put some silicone type rubber treatment stuff on the weather strip ( or use 303 protectant ) and they won't freeze stuck anymore.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 05, 2015, 11:01:49 AM

 I use GM's silicone emulsion. It works good to keep the seals nice and they don't stick. Thing is the temps went from +4 in the afternoon to -7 by the time I was done work. Plus the snow started up again and it was pretty nasty. That tends to freeze things up pretty good.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on January 05, 2015, 02:21:17 PM
I noticed that this morning when I went to use the Caliber. Moisture from yesterday's rain froze overnight and I had to to pull pretty hard to get the doors open.
Is that silicone emulsion available anywhere or only at the dealer ?

On another note, When I wrapped up my car for the winter I forgot to remove the dash pad. I only remembered about it when I heard about this current cold
snap coming. Two winters ago that bad cold snap we had caused a perfect pad to split wide open from front to back so I redyed one of my good spares to
match and put it in the car. I didn't want another cracked pad on my hands so I had to partially unwrap the car to get it out. Now I've only got this one and 1
other good pad left as a spare. I have two other pads but they need repairs. One is from the car Mike sold to Rene. It has very minor cracks at the defroster
vent corners and one near the serial number cutout. The other is the pad that split 2 years ago.
I also have an Accu-Form "Dash Cap" coverlay for an Eldorado as well.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on January 05, 2015, 02:36:31 PM
I just put a protectant (Simonize) on the weather stripping and the doors never freeze shut.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 06, 2015, 11:36:39 AM


  cursin>  Bloody hell. Just dropped Vera off to have the exhaust done. Needs a convertor and extension pipe. 450 friggin dollars. Now I hear Victoria barking from cursin> the flange on the crossover. How long can I go before I get that done? Plus she needs a muffler.....

 I need this now.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on January 06, 2015, 11:53:43 AM
When it rains, it pours....... or snows.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 06, 2015, 12:27:27 PM

 And as always the timing is perfect. Dammit, I wish I still could do that myself. The convertor would have been gone and a set of duals would have been installed for less money.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on January 06, 2015, 01:51:17 PM
Is the exhaust leak on Victoria on the left or right?  If on the right, the usual suspect is the donut gasket for the down-pipe; that junction is supposed to be attached via 3 bolts with springs to help isolate engine vibrations, but some muffler shops use generic hardware and throw the good stuff in the garbage.  The crossover pipe on the Delta 88 started leaking slightly at the 28 year mark because the flanges had disintegrated - a shop extracted the original studs and installed new flanges.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 06, 2015, 02:59:12 PM

 I suspect the flanges aer gone. I have gvo have a closer look. I first noticed the noise yesterday, but previously I noted that the clamps were getting a bit crusty.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on January 11, 2015, 03:42:54 PM

 And as always the timing is perfect. Dammit, I wish I still could do that myself. The convertor would have been gone and a set of duals would have been installed for less money.

 Mike

It sucks, I just blew a rear wheel brake cylinder - the one I replaced three years ago and that brake line. Okay locally with just the front discs which are all new.

Get the part and wait for a break in the weather.

CDV



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on January 13, 2015, 11:48:54 AM
I got 2 issues solved on the 82 on Sunday.
 The frigid weather was causing the throttle cable to freeze up and the car to run away.
 I sprayed some WD-30 on the cable and linkage. It was -2F this morning and no sticking.
I have been having trouble with squealing belts as well so I picked up some Wynn's belt dressing/conditioner and sprayed them good. This stuff is clear. Nothing like previous dressing I have bought that are black sticky goo that fly's all over the place. Let it sit for 5 minutes and no more squealing. I can still hear them chirp occasionally but much better.
Now to tackle that short that causing the headlight alarm to sound all the time................

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 13, 2015, 10:31:29 PM

 Cool. 2 things off your list. Now just find that alarm module and unplug it.

 I went to replace the ECC control head on Vera on Monday with the one I got from Jon last year and tried for fix after it baked me out of the car in April. But no go. Completely dead. So I guess I have to suffer through with a defroster that works when it wants to.

 Hopefully on Saturday I can replace that AIR pump. The weather looks a bit more inviting.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 13, 2015, 10:57:58 PM
That sucks...


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on January 16, 2015, 02:01:53 PM
Topped off the reservoir for the rear brakes twice. The second time it magically stopped leaking and the brake light went off.

Picked up a new wheel cylinder regardless this morning, driving gingerly with front disc brakes only , gotta love the anxiety ..... lol

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 16, 2015, 05:12:29 PM

 It will likely start leaking again. And it could leak all over the shoes, so you'll lileley end up replacing tjem too. Sometimes they can be cleaned, but the fluid will always leech out.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on January 16, 2015, 07:25:03 PM
Ray my mechanic buddy told me if I spray the shoes with brakekleen I can light them on fire to burn off the brake fluid.

That would make a great video.

High 30's F Sunday, pull the new brake drum and take a peak, at that point I'll replace the cylinder but this time of year sucks.

I was all prepared for winter with maintenance but you know how that goes .........

CDV



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 16, 2015, 10:29:00 PM

 I know. No matter what you do, something always comes up. When you're pressing 25 year old vehicles through the winter, it can happen.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on January 17, 2015, 12:47:22 PM
How about a 33 year old vehicle.
 There is always something that needs to be fixed.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 17, 2015, 04:36:06 PM

 Victoria is now 28. She is faring rather well.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 18, 2015, 08:03:40 AM
A couple things so far this winter with my cars that I'm hopping can wait till spring.

Rocky: small coolant leak that requires occasional top ups
slight trans oil leak at the radiator

Peach: rear passenger door lock solenoid failed (don't know if it's wiring or solenoid)
Starter sometimes needs a double key stroke in really cold weather.  One to warm it up, then the second for it to actually engage.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on January 18, 2015, 08:35:26 AM
Do you see anything coming out the weep hole in the water pump?
 It could also be the rear seal.

Your not the only one that can't wait for spring. We still have out LT1 day this spring.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on January 19, 2015, 07:59:38 AM

 I got to the AIR pump yesterday finally.  Now Vera is nice and quiet.

 The front bearing was failing on the old pump. The pulley was rattling around loose. So it was only a matter of time before it really let go. That makes me even happier it's done.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on January 19, 2015, 10:11:04 AM
Excellent!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on January 19, 2015, 10:32:16 AM
Excellent!



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 03, 2015, 11:01:08 AM
I got my 82 back this morning.
 As I said in another thread that one of the belts snapped Sunday night and threw another one off.
Turns out that the Vacuum pump had seized and the belt burned itself until it broke.
  Turns out that moisture got into it and it froze. After sitting inside for a while it thawed out and they let it run for a while to get all the moisture out of it. All seems well now and I hope it doesn't happen again and it has more power now as well. I'm assuming that this has been a problem for quite some time and the source of that squealing belt.
 Anyway it won't be much longer until I'm driving another Cadillac.
This just set me back $180 plus $92 for the tow.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 03, 2015, 10:23:40 PM

 Ouch!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 08, 2015, 11:03:24 AM
What did I do to my Cadillac? Well I got my Concours on the road on Friday. So I've been driving it.
  Quite a different feeling as it's the first FWD car I've owned. Lots of toys to play with as well, this thing is loaded!
The N* is tight as a drum and does it ever go!
 I have a few issues to work out but it can wait until the warm weather.
First thing will be brakes as they pulsate.
Oh yea, I washed it as well, it seemed to run better instantly. burn/out

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 08, 2015, 11:09:02 AM

 Excellent!  whoo/hoo

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on February 08, 2015, 12:25:04 PM
Pictures - we need more pictures!!

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 08, 2015, 02:13:47 PM
I'll take some tomorrow, it's cold out there right now.... is it almost spring yet?

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on February 08, 2015, 02:35:09 PM
I'll take some tomorrow, it's cold out there right now.... is it almost spring yet?

GJ

I don't know.  I killed the ground hog <g>

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 08, 2015, 03:38:32 PM

 I don't blame you. But I do hear they are good eating.....  -yes-

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 10, 2015, 09:46:05 AM

 I took Victoria into Minute Muffler this morning. I had a look see under the car to see what was needed. The noisiest leak is between the EFE valve and manifold, but there is a pin hole in the crossover. The pipes in and out of the convertor are weak. The extension pipe has a series of holes. Thereès a hole in the back of the muffler and the tail pipe is weak just behind the muffler.

 So, a major exhaust overhaul is in order. He's going to bend up a crossover from stainless so that will be permanent. Make new pipes in and out of the convertor, but keep the convertor, and replace everything back of that. Hoo boy. Looking in the ball park of $500 for all this. But all things considered it's not bad considering some of the repair bills I have been hearing about on newer cars lately.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 10, 2015, 10:54:06 AM
$500 for stainless ain't bad and it will never have to be done again.
 Maybe I should take my Concours in to see what it needs to fix its exhaust leak.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 10, 2015, 10:56:54 AM

 Only the crossover will be stainless.

 Yeah, you should pop in and see what needs to be done. He looks to be pretty slow today.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on February 10, 2015, 03:17:18 PM
If I had the choice of doing one section in stainless, it would be the tailpipe.  The farther away from the engine, the quicker they corrode.  The crossover heats up quickly so it would have the least amount of internal condensation.  There's probably a failed stud on the left manifold to EFE valve to crossover pipe junction, causing most of the racket.  I would guess the "cat back" pieces from Walker (intermediate pipe, muffler and tailpipe) would be just over $100 and can be bolted together easily.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 10, 2015, 03:28:02 PM

 I had a look when it was on the hoist. The studs on the left side looked pretty good. The leak was mostly between the manifold and the EFE valve. I have had experience with Walker crossovers. They fail after a few years. They corrode at the bottom. I considered having the whole deal done in stainless, but the current budget won't allow for it. The extension pip he bends himself from aluminised. That lasts a long time.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on February 10, 2015, 03:46:27 PM
Is the factory crossover aluminised?  The one on the '83 Olds is still going (with replacement flanges).  Speaking of flanges, I just installed a split-flange at the intermediate pipe to converter junction because the muffler shop cheapie from ~2000 was getting too thin to keep it together.  The intermediate pipe and muffler assembly are still solid, a take-off from a 1995 B-car.  The tailpipe was fabricated from 409 stainless to match the OEM parts, and the only trouble has been from a corroded clamp.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 10, 2015, 04:01:00 PM

 OEM on these cars is stainless. They seem to last forever, but the flanges rot away. Usually the installation of a split flange will do the trick for a long time.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on February 10, 2015, 04:03:40 PM
I went to visit my Eldorado today.  It's partly disassembled.  They parts they've removed have been stripped, repaired and primed.  The really good news is that so far there have been no unhappy surprizes.  No hidden rust (yay!) and they tell me the car looks in exceptionally good shape.

I need to find window "whiskers" and also new seatbelts and seatbelt clips (they are on top of the 2 front seats).  Any clues?

I should have a show worthy car by this summer (OMG!!)  I've never competed.  Naw, I'd have to replace the carpet and roofliner and .... naw - she'll just be a delightfully beautiful RED car.

TIA

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on February 10, 2015, 08:00:08 PM
I fired Chester up today and moved it out of the garage (more to come in the What did you do to your Non-Cadillac thread).  The battery hasn't been on a charger and it's been several months since any activity. It was able to turn the engine over slowly,  but not enough to catch.  So I put cables to Rocky's battery and Chester fired up instantly.  I let it run for a bit,  then put it back when I was done with Peach.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on February 11, 2015, 04:51:53 AM
I did the same thing yesterday with my car. I partially removed the snow covers to get inside and it started right up. I've had a trickle charger on it all
winter to keep the battery up. I can't move it yet because it's blocked by piles of snow but I will clean that away. I want to take it out and get it to Tony
so he can put that new neutral safety switch in while we're in Florida. We're leaving on the 20th for two weeks in St. Pete's Beach.

Sam; are you taking a pictures of your restoration ? I did that with mine over the winter back in '08-'09. It's nice to have that sort of thing on hand.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 11, 2015, 07:58:01 AM

 Yes, it would be good to see some in progress pics. One thing about California cars is the lack of rust on the chassis and inner panels. However they are notorious for rot in the upper areas if they came from places near the ocean. Places like the trim around the vinyl, belt moldings and so forth. But it seems that Cali has escaped that too.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 11, 2015, 10:11:04 AM
The new owner of the 82 came by and picked it up yesterday. It was kind of sad to watch her go, but it's going to a good home and I'll still get to see it around once in a while.
 I told him to sign up here as we would help him track down parts and give advice.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 11, 2015, 01:41:23 PM

 I'm sure he's giving it a major spit and polish right now.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 11, 2015, 01:42:36 PM

 I picked up Victoria earlier. Nice and quiet again. A whole lotta new stuff under there!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 12, 2015, 10:47:49 AM
Awesome! Is that the car your taking on Sunday?

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 12, 2015, 11:07:26 AM

 I was planning on going in Vera. But that could change too.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 12, 2015, 12:41:42 PM
Pictures - we need more pictures!!

Sam

Someone following me took these.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on February 12, 2015, 12:44:35 PM
The guys at the garage are taking pics as they go.  I live about an hour away, so can't be there too often.  Sorry   -uh-

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on February 12, 2015, 03:17:09 PM
It's good to hear that they are taking pics of the restoration for you. A nice touch is to put together an album showing how the car was restored then
you can display it when you show the car.

RON



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 12, 2015, 05:05:15 PM
The guys at the garage are taking pics as they go.  I live about an hour away, so can't be there too often.  Sorry   -uh-

Sam

 Excellent!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on February 12, 2015, 06:02:56 PM
Pictures - we need more pictures!!

Sam

Someone following me took these.
Nice!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on February 16, 2015, 09:52:24 AM
It was -24 C earlier this morning and the resistance of the block heater circuit on the SRX was 40.6 ohms (measured at the plug terminals).  Above -20 C, a thermal switch opens, so the resistance becomes infinite.  I was all ready to troubleshoot the open circuit condition some time ago until I read about this switch in the service information, but had to wait for cold weather to verify its operation!  The factory-fill was Mobil 1 and synthetic engine oil is required (mainly for cam phaser consistency) and it seems they took this into consideration with the block heater design.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Young One on February 17, 2015, 07:16:59 AM
yesterday i spent an hour and a half shampooing the driver seat, floor pan and detailing some of the dash on the 82. i looks great but theres more work to be done  ;)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 17, 2015, 09:18:50 AM

 I bet it will look wonderful when you're done!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 17, 2015, 09:48:21 AM
There was a lot of dirt in that car but those seats should look brand new after a good cleaning.
 I'll be very interested to see how good it looks.
When I get a few things fixed on my Concours I'll be bringing it in for a good cleaning.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Young One on February 17, 2015, 12:20:56 PM
it really wasn't that bad i just wanted to do a deep clean and thats what took the time... after the interior is done im going to be re-tinting the windows. i really do not like purple tint. i will post some pics when interior is done.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on February 17, 2015, 12:22:49 PM
Does it have leather or fabric seats?

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 17, 2015, 12:36:36 PM
I never noticed any purple in the tint.
  The tint was done by the original owner and doesn't have a bubble anywhere in it.
I always found that it was too dark and had a hard time seeing out the side/back windows at night.
I guess that is why the interior doesn't have any bleaching from the sun.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Young One on February 17, 2015, 02:40:16 PM
Does it have leather or fabric seats?

Sam
they are fabric seats.

I never noticed any purple in the tint.
  The tint was done by the original owner and doesn't have a bubble anywhere in it.
I always found that it was too dark and had a hard time seeing out the side/back windows at night.
I guess that is why the interior doesn't have any bleaching from the sun.

GJ
There is a bit of a purple ting on the back window and the 2 back doors. i can really notice it in the sun. But i think its because i just re-tinted my sunfire at the beginning of winter and its nice and dark. You are correct about the bleaching. window tint is the best thing you can do to save your interior especially with newer tint as it blocks out 99% of UV rays. also the tint i'm going to use is carbon based so it will not interfere with the radio or cell phone reception ware as some older tint is metal based.

My plan is to go even darker then what is already there... and try something new  :D


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on February 17, 2015, 06:08:58 PM
This is great!
Take it one step at a time and eventually you can step back and see the work you've done.
The first thing I was planning for that car if it had made it's way in my possession was to redo the top. But that was because it was going to be stored outside and I wanted it protected.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on February 17, 2015, 06:14:21 PM
Before you do those windows make sure that whatever shade goes on that it's a legal tint. There is a law as to to how dark you can have them.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Young One on February 17, 2015, 07:40:54 PM
luckily Jon i have been able to store it inside for now witch definitely makes it easier to work on... when i have the time.

Before you do those windows make sure that whatever shade goes on that it's a legal tint. There is a law as to to how dark you can have them.

RON

the legal tint for the 2 front doors is 35% but for the most part you wont get bothered with 18% and the back can be as dark as i want. the laws are kind of tricky but its ultimately up to the officers discretion... i have had 5% tint (limo tint) on all windows of my sunfire for about 2 months now and i haven't had any problems with the police knock on wood. technically even the "sun strip" at the top of the windshield is illegal to have tinted. even things hanging from the rear view mirror are illegal because it obstructing the drivers view. what i want to try with the 82 is 18% on the front doors and 2 layers of limo tint on the back doors and back glass.

i managed to get a 20 foot long, 4 foot wide piece of 77% tint from my supplier for free so this summer when my dad pulls out his 94 sedan deville he has asked me to tint his windshield (100% illegal) because when his interior is all clean the sun reflects of the dash and causes a massive glare on the windshield and at the same time the tint will provide UV protection to help stop sun bleaching and premature cracking of the dash.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on February 18, 2015, 06:23:00 AM
My '09 Dodge Caliber has tinted windows but I don't know what % they are as they were already tinted when I bought the car.
The front door glass is lighter than the rest which are really dark. You can't see anything inside the car when looking from the outside. The only drawback
is that it can be difficult to see when backing up at night and whenever we cross the border I have to make sure the side windows are down when talking
to Customs officers.
I've often thought about doing the windows on my Eldorado but I think it would ruin the overall look of the car.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Young One on February 18, 2015, 09:17:46 AM
if the Caliber has factory tint its most likely 20% or close to that. if its not factory you can always have the tint taken off or do it your self but its a bit of a pain. As for the Eldorado you can always try a really light tint like 77%, it will give you minimal privacy but it will protect the interior from bleaching. There is a guy who comes in to our shop with a Ford LTD and he has 77% on it just to protect the interior and its working pretty well. i'm not to sure but i also believe there is 100% tint that just blocks the UV rays but again i'm not to sure.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on February 18, 2015, 10:13:21 AM
It's an aftermarket tint over the factory tint. I'm used to it now so I'm leaving it on. It's great for blocking the glare from the sun especially with all this snow
laying about.
I used to to deliver the Toronto Sunday Sun and got into some rural areas. With the dark windows I had to be careful turning around or backing out of long
driveways so I wouldn't wind up in a ditch somewhere. Knocking on someone's door at 4 am looking for help didn't appeal to me. Farmers have shotguns.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 18, 2015, 10:18:22 AM

[/quote]



i managed to get a 20 foot long, 4 foot wide piece of 77% tint from my supplier for free so this summer when my dad pulls out his 94 sedan deville he has asked me to tint his windshield (100% illegal) because when his interior is all clean the sun reflects of the dash and causes a massive glare on the windshield and at the same time the tint will provide UV protection to help stop sun bleaching and premature cracking of the dash.
[/quote]

Cadillac's and some other GM models offered a polarized windshield as an option.
 I have been looking for one for my 94 but the supplier (PPG) doesn't make them any more.
They were called "Sungate". They cut UV rays by something like 80%.
If you ever see an Impala SS with a windshield that has a purple hue to it, that's a Sungate.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Young One on February 18, 2015, 06:13:25 PM


Cadillac's and some other GM models offered a polarized windshield as an option.
 I have been looking for one for my 94 but the supplier (PPG) doesn't make them any more.
They were called "Sungate". They cut UV rays by something like 80%.
If you ever see an Impala SS with a windshield that has a purple hue to it, that's a Sungate.

GJ
[/quote]

i did not know that... i went to Cambridge auto wreckers today and they had 4 to 6 devilles that are the same body style as yours, i'm not to sure of the years tho... the snow was knee deep and i was freezing but i thought i would let you know encase theirs something you need.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on February 18, 2015, 08:14:33 PM
A new block heater  =rofl=


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on February 18, 2015, 08:28:01 PM
A new block heater  =rofl=

OUCH!

I took mine out today for about 100km run as she's not been out in this cold.  Heater and heated seats worked just fine (phew!!)

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 18, 2015, 10:29:17 PM

 The heater in Victoria has been working just fine the past couple of days too. I guess that cold air blast on the 401 was a bit much. On Saturday I think I'll have a look at Vera and assess the charging system.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 19, 2015, 02:27:37 PM
Very funny Jon :poke:

I'll be heading out to Cambridge Auto Wreckers when the weather gets a bit warmer.
  
 I took the Concours in to the mufflerman today. The flex pipe was pretty rotten so I had them put a new one in.
 When they were just about finished they noticed a small hole in the converter so they just welded it up, but I'll be needing a new one as its getting pretty thin. I hope it lasts for a while. The skins on the mufflers are coming loose but not too bad right now. I'll have to replace them sometime in the future as well.
 It sure is nice and quiet now. Almost eery, I might have to put something on so I can hear it run.
Oh, speaking of block heaters..... I don't have one. I guess when the engine was replaced it didn't have a block heater.  I found this on Crappy Tires website.
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/engine-hose-heater-0303280p.html#.VOZKsi6unbw

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on February 19, 2015, 03:58:56 PM
Is that a heated mini pump or just a heating element ? The bulbous body suggests to me that there is an impeller inside. The stand alone pic gives no hint
to it's actual size.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on February 19, 2015, 04:18:03 PM
Using the photo as a reference and assuming the plug shown behind is just under 1 inch across, it appears it's designed to be installed on one of the radiator hoses.  This may not be effective in the Concours since there wouldn't be any opportunity for coolant flow (either by convection or forced) through the block; the heater circuit is routed to and from the cross-over/waterpump area at the rear of the engine, with a surge tank 'T' connection to help purge air at the front, and the system uses an inlet thermostat at the lower hose fitting.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 19, 2015, 05:06:45 PM

 What about looking into an OEM heater?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 20, 2015, 11:26:18 AM
How do you install an OEM heater with the engine in the car? It's real tight in there.
 I think this is it here.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/GM-12556399-BLOCK-HEATER-L47-Northstar-Engines-Cadillac-Aurora-Geniune-GM-OEM-/120793390781

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on February 20, 2015, 11:44:17 AM
The 1996 Concours has an L37; the L47 was used in the Olds Aurora.  Per 9E-1 of the FSM, the block heater is simply clipped into a blind hole in the engine block.  I'm sure there's an easier way than the FSM's removal procedure to insert one if it is missing or re-attach the cord if it came loose.

The easiest solution would be to use the recommended oil viscosity for this unusual weather.  The '83 Olds has always gotten by with conventional 10W-30, and more recently HD/Diesel 15W-40 after the ZDDP levels started falling, but I'm glad I was out of Rotella and added Mobil 1 5W-30 last December before there was any trouble.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 20, 2015, 05:06:09 PM

 I have been tossing around the ides of using a 10W30 HD semi synthetic for winter use......

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on February 20, 2015, 06:10:43 PM
Mike has seen the light.

This morning at F  2 degrees about C - 20 my snow thrower 6 hp engine was tight on the first pull, after each pull it got looser and fired up after five pulls. Without synthetic oil it never would have started.

My LO5 starts easily at F  0 / C - 17.7777 , granted takes three seconds but at least I know it's not an issue. Below C - 17.7777 it gets dicey but it will start.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 21, 2015, 10:21:32 AM

 I have been tossing around the ides of using a 10W30 HD semi synthetic for winter use......


And a bottle of EOS?

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 21, 2015, 06:02:18 PM

 EOS is alwaysna good idea.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Young One on February 21, 2015, 06:20:59 PM
Noobie here! GJ was telling me about EOS but im unsure of when to run it?  how long to use it for? and how often to use it?... HELP PLEASE!! :P


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on February 21, 2015, 06:35:48 PM
And what is EOS other than a TLA?   -uh-

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Young One on February 21, 2015, 06:46:43 PM
WHOA!!! what the heck is TLA???  bang/head


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on February 21, 2015, 07:39:11 PM
WHOA!!! what the heck is TLA???  bang/head

 =rofl=  Three Letter Acronym   =rofl=

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Young One on February 21, 2015, 08:20:27 PM
Well dam  {truce}


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on February 21, 2015, 09:05:29 PM
I don't know anything about EOS. But I do put zinc additive in the oil for the Wildcat. I've also used seafoam in some of my cars which can be fun.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on February 21, 2015, 09:22:33 PM
I use ATF in my small engines, multiple squirts in the carb and that cleans out the carbon in the combustion chamber and then they run smooth.

Did that with my 67 429 CDV parts car once, sent clouds of smoke across town, it was fun.

CDV



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on February 21, 2015, 09:24:35 PM
GM's EOS (Engine Oil Supplement) is the only factory-authorized engine oil additive.  It contains a high concentration of ZDDP suspended in 30 weight oil, and is an ideal supplement for conditions where a higher concentration of an extreme pressure additive is required (e.g. engine break-in).  ZDDP is sacrificial and mitigates the damage from transient metal-to-metal contact.  Engines with a lot of rubbing elements (distributor drive gears, flat tappets, etc.) deplete such extreme pressure additives at a higher rate.  The interesting thing is that higher concentrations of ZDDP will actually increase the wear rate, so it's best not to stray too far from additive recipes that have been proven to work.  The reason all recent oils have lower levels of ZDDP is to extend catalyst life; oil manufacturers have had to increase the use of other extreme pressure additives to account for this.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 22, 2015, 08:08:12 AM

 Put it in when you change the oil. You can use it once a year, or every change.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 22, 2015, 08:36:51 AM
I use it once a year.
 TJ doesn't have to worry about catalyst degradation in the 82. No E-test required and if the converter plugs up just replace it with a piece of pipe. (If you can find someone that will do it) It will run better and make more power without that pesky converter.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Young One on February 22, 2015, 06:22:46 PM
I use it once a year.
 TJ doesn't have to worry about catalyst degradation in the 82. No E-test required and if the converter plugs up just replace it with a piece of pipe. (If you can find someone that will do it) It will run better and make more power without that pesky converter.

GJ

ohh i got high people in low places.....errrrmmmmm.... i mean i should do that for more power :P


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on February 22, 2015, 07:00:42 PM
Nice garage!!   -yes-

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on February 22, 2015, 07:20:59 PM
Yes,  a good chunk of room there.   Mine fits 2 cars nicely but is only ~1 foot longer than the cars so working on them requires preplanning and proper positioning.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Young One on February 22, 2015, 07:49:17 PM
this pic shows 5 cars... most we have fit is 7


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 23, 2015, 06:47:00 AM

 Yes, it is a good sized shop. That's a nice advantage to have in thios weather to clean your car. It's just around the corner from me. I should pop in to say Hi more often.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Young One on February 23, 2015, 07:55:43 AM

 Yes, it is a good sized shop. That's a nice advantage to have in thios weather to clean your car. It's just around the corner from me. I should pop in to say Hi more often.

 Mike

it is real nice in the winter. this has been ware the 82 has been since i got it. yes you should defiantly come by and say hi the old man would love to see you.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 23, 2015, 10:41:12 AM


ohh i got high people in low places.....errrrmmmmm.... i mean i should do that for more power :P

With a 4100 you will need all the power you can get. burn/out.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 24, 2015, 12:45:22 PM
So I was watching a commercial on you tube for the Concours and I heard something about an 11 speaker sound system. So I pulled out the shop manual and started looking through it.
Imagine my surprise when I found out each door has 2 speakers, 2 in the parcel shelf and one in the dashboard. read2
 The radio looks kind of cheap but it sounds nice! Sadly it didn't come with the one with the preset equalizer.
I'll be keeping an eye for one at the wreckers and I can have it hard wired for my iPod.
  I've also been considering buying a Blaupunkt head unit, but don't know how the 11 speakers would work with it or would the steering wheel controls work with it.
 Anyone into audio systems here that would know?
I've had my eye on this one. It's a good price.
http://www.thesource.ca/estore/Product.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=car-stereo-receivers&product=8010003

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on February 24, 2015, 02:51:27 PM
The radio looks kind of cheap but it sounds nice! Sadly it didn't come with the one with the preset equalizer.

The focus was on plain and simple controls, also seen on many Buick models, so as not to confuse the Q-Tips.   ;D


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on February 24, 2015, 03:09:45 PM
The radio looks kind of cheap but it sounds nice! Sadly it didn't come with the one with the preset equalizer.

The focus was on plain and simple controls, also seen on many Buick models, so as not to confuse the Q-Tips.   ;D

Q-tips?  -uh-

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on February 24, 2015, 03:18:53 PM
Q-tips?  -uh-

Sam

http://slang.uoregon.edu/pub_search.lasso?&RecordIDNumber=16174&Process=detail01

Quote
  Lexical Item or Phrase: Q-tip
 
  Meaning: In Physician slang, a Q-Tip means an elderly person, as aged people often tend to be very skinny and have white hair on their heads.
 
  Date Collected: 04/18/2006
 
  Student Name: lbirdsey
 
  Social Group: American Physicians
 
  Part of Speech: Noun
 
  Source: The word Q-tip was originally used by Leo Gerstenzang, the founder of the Q-tips Company. Originally called Baby Gays, in the 1920's the name was changed to Q-tips Baby Gays, the Q standing for quality. After a time “Baby Gays” was dropped in its entirety from the name, becoming simply q-tip.
 
  Context: Physicians use Q tip in reference to an aged person when they desire to be condescending.
 
  Connotations: A Q-tip conjures up images of an object that is very thin and has (at least on one end) a bundle of white cotton wrapped around it. This image allows one to understand why one might use q-tip in reference to older people.
 
  Examples: "Did you see the bunch of Q-tips sitting in the waiting room?"


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on February 24, 2015, 04:07:29 PM
Thank you

and

UGH  shake/head

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on February 24, 2015, 06:54:04 PM


The focus was on plain and simple controls, also seen on many Buick models, so as not to confuse the Q-Tips.   ;D
=rofl=


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on February 25, 2015, 09:50:00 AM
Did someone just call me a Q tip? +wave+

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on February 26, 2015, 08:07:08 PM
Q-tips. That would describe most of the folks down here on St Pete Beach.
I tried to send something the other day but the iPod was acting up and it didn't work out.
The weather here has been so-so but a lot better than what we left at home. Mid. 60's in the day and mid 50's
at night. Had a couple of days in the high 70's. The cool weather brings in heavy seafog at night and most of the
day but as the air warms up the fog is burned off but returns at night. Today though was a good one.
My rental car is a black '14 VW Jetta. Not a bad little runner but nothing special either. I certainly wouldn't
want to own one. If you have the bucks you can rent just about any car made.
We will be going to a big car show in Brandon on Sunday and will take some pics.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on February 26, 2015, 10:30:16 PM

 Good to hear from you Ron! Well, what you're getting there is a damned sight better than what we're getting here. Still in the deep freeze at least for tonight and tomorrow.

 Enjoy the show. You're right in the middle of their show season there. Lots to see!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 01, 2015, 04:11:47 PM

 I started Vera today. She has been sitting since last Saturday. Fired right up, so I went for a nice drive. I think I'll drive her this week. Give Victoria a bit of a rest. She performed flawlessly through all this cold.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on March 02, 2015, 11:07:40 AM
I took the Concours to the car wash yesterday and gave it a bath. It was filthy.
 Then I took it for a run to Shakespeare and back. It sure is happy on the highway, but I'm going to have to get the rear end up to its proper height. Every bump seems to go through the entire car.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on March 02, 2015, 11:26:54 AM
Generally speaking, the isolation over sharp-edged bumps isn't as good as the body-on-frame cars, especially with the short-long arm rear suspension.  The benefit is more precise steering, little to no lift/squat, and a higher roll centre so they could reduce the diameter of the stabilizer bars.  The Concours is the sportier counterpart to the base DeVille, so there are some tuning differences in the bushings and ride height which were intended to complement the CVRSS.  Lower tire pressures may help to restore some of the traditional feel.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on March 02, 2015, 11:36:31 AM
I have to say that the steering is very quick and responsive.
 I'm running 40 PSI in the front tires/35 rear.
I don't know if the shocks will hold air, if they do I'll leave them, if not I'll put the passive ones in.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 02, 2015, 07:14:10 PM

 Good to hear from you Ron! Well, what you're getting there is a damned sight better than what we're getting here. Still in the deep freeze at least for tonight and tomorrow.

 Enjoy the show. You're right in the middle of their show season there. Lots to see!

 Mike
Some car show that was. 14 cars showed up. Except for one they were just run of the mill
classics that you would see at any show. The other was a 1927 Buick sedan that an old
guy showed up with. A super interesting car with an amazing documented history.
It was originally a member of the "Wiskey Six", one of six '27 Buicks purchased by the
gangster Al Capone. These cars were used by his men to get to gang meetings.
He found the car in a warehouse sitting on jack stands with no engine or suspension but
it had thick bullet proof glass in the doors and bullet holes in the doors that had been
repaired over. I haven't looked on the internet yet for the story of the cars but I'm sure
something will be posted.

RON






Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 03, 2015, 10:52:06 AM
I typed in "al capone's wiskey six 1927 buicks" and what came up was a pic of the same car
I saw on Sunday. Other than what the current owner said about it there wasn't much info to
be found.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on March 03, 2015, 11:19:58 AM
Is this it?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 03, 2015, 04:44:11 PM
YUP  That's the one.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 05, 2015, 07:21:15 PM
The cold over the last month reminded me that I needed to fix the A/C on Chester  =rofl=
Thermal switch was sticking so occasionally I'd have to stop, pop the hood, and tap the switch to get the clutch to engage again.  I replaced the switch but it will be a while before I get to test the system.....
I also replaced the TCC solenoid.  Again,  since the car isn't on the road, I can't test to see if that will solve my ~75km/h transmission hesitation I get and the occasional delayed down shift.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on March 05, 2015, 08:42:17 PM
If you're running a non-azeotropic refrigerant (a blend, such as R-290 and R-600a), the cycling switch can be adjusted to optimize the vent temperatures.  The stock calibration is for zero frost accumulation at the evaporator inlet, but the refrigerant blends evaporate over a temperature range (glide), making better use of the surface area, and can be adjusted for some inlet frost without any airflow obstruction.

The long range forecast is for below average temperatures in the NE over the next 3 months so you may have to go south to do some early testing.   ;D

Is the old TCC solenoid plunger/bore fouled by debris?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 05, 2015, 09:45:48 PM
I didn't inspect the old TCC solenoid, it's not thrown away yet so maybe I'll take a peek.
The refrigerant is whatever was in the car when I bought it plus 1 can of redtek that Mike and I put in years ago. I left the insulation easily adjustable for fine tuning when the summertime comes.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 05, 2015, 10:32:41 PM

 That reminds me. I have to start looking into getting the AC operational again on Vera. The Compressor is fubarred, and the evaporator is leaking. So, I'd like to do an overhaul, but funds restrict me to fixing what's broke.

 I'm going to have to find out if I can use a V-belt compressor and install the pulley and clutch from the serpentine belt. I have a couple of good ones here. The evaporator is another matter. I'd like to find a good used one if possible, but may have to spring for new.And then I'm going to install the proper orifice to optimise the HC refrigerant I'm using.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on March 06, 2015, 10:52:09 AM
-14 outside and were talking about Air Conditioning........ /brrr/
 Are we going to talk about heater cores in July? :poke:

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on March 06, 2015, 03:09:55 PM
The refrigerant is whatever was in the car when I bought it plus 1 can of redtek that Mike and I put in years ago. I left the insulation easily adjustable for fine tuning when the summertime comes.

It's at least partially non-azeotropic. :)  Whatever blend it may be, it should work well as long as there isn't a significant percentage of non-condensable gas (e.g. air).  The thermostatic cycling switch should have an adjustment screw under a foil sticker (to help keep dirt out).  Adjustments here might work more consistently than varying the insulation level or contact patch of the capillary tube, depending on the tuning objective.  At 60 MPH with the Climate Control at the lowest setting, it should be putting out 41 F at the right-centre vent until the interior cools sufficiently to allow the compressor to cycle more frequently, which raises the average discharge temperature a couple degrees.  Actually, an HT4100 may achieve that at a lower road speed because of the 3.42:1 final drive...


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 06, 2015, 03:55:28 PM
Woah,
I'm gonna stick my hand over the vent. If it feels cold, I'll take my wife for a test drive. If she says it's too powerful or too weak for her comfort I'll adjust accordingly.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on March 06, 2015, 04:59:54 PM
Heh, that's what the Climate Control is for.  The refrigerant system should always be tuned for maximum capacity.  If it's working well, the Climate Control will start mixing in heat after 10-15 minutes on the highway if it's set to a reasonable temperature like 70+ F and it's under 100 F outside.  :)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 07, 2015, 02:26:31 PM
Today after I dug out the Caliber I cleaned the ice and snow off the top of the Eldorado. The driveway side is clear but the pile of snow at the front is up to
the top of the hood. The full length of the pass side is buried up to the top of the door and the rear isn't any better. Maybe next week I'll try to take the
wraps off and attempt to move it.
I was pleased that the Caliber started right up. I was thinking that it's 6 yr old battery, after sitting for 2 weeks in that bitter cold, would be a goner but
it wasn't. As they say down under "no worries mate".

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on March 07, 2015, 02:39:26 PM
Okay I'll play by the rules with this thread.

I'm charging the battery on my 66 CDV today. Fire it up in a few weeks then I can move it back to the yard for the summer.

Too many projects, once you start a project car you have to finish it top priority or it never gets finished. I have other priorities now but all the work was done was proper.

CDV



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 07, 2015, 04:56:06 PM

 You have to finish that car. You need to drive it and enjoy it.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 13, 2015, 02:02:22 PM
  I got my Eldorado unburied from the snow earlier in the week a drove it a bit. I also unplugged the trickle charger. Even after having the charger on all
winter the engine just slowly groaned over and started. I probably didn't drive it enough then to get much of a charge built up. It had to be boosted today
to get her going. I drove it some more today at faster speeds to build up a charge but when I got home and tried to restart it, nothing, so I had to boost it
again. Ill have to get her out on the 403 to Brantford for a good high speed run to recharge it. If that fails then I'll probably have to get a new battery again.
  I'm not going to spend too much time cleaning the wheel covers, they really aren't that dirty but one of them had to come apart for repairs.
The large ring that holds the inside spokes in place has peeling chrome on it. I took another wheel cover with a badly banged up outer edge and put the
ring from it on the good cover. I just have to finish putting the good cover back together again and I'm good to go. I'll put them back on the car before the
highway run because the car looks like crap without wheel covers.
I also have to start looking for a place indoors where I can change the colour of my vinyl top. I'm tired of that metallic almond colour and want to put on
the factory colour.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 13, 2015, 02:29:05 PM

 When you park the car for the winter, remove the battery and keep it in the garage. You can keep the trickle charger on it too if you wish. It's not good to keep an inactive battery out in that cold if it's not being used.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on March 13, 2015, 02:49:22 PM
How old is the battery?  Some automatic trickle chargers seem to run in float mode (constant voltage) for too long and either aren't designed or don't cycle to a bulk charging mode as needed.  Once the internal resistance of the battery increases, driving around won't be enough to help rejuvenate the battery, as it's too short a period and the battery can only accept a slow rate of charge in this condition.  What it needs is a 1-2 Amp constant current charger connected for 24-96 hours - essentially a controlled overcharge that will help restore the active area of the plates.   Voltage should peak to the 15-16 range depending on temperature, and then fall a few percent at completion.

I find the cold helps to slow down the chemical degradation of batteries, but they should be kept charged to prevent electrolyte freezing.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 13, 2015, 02:58:53 PM
The funny thing about it was I started the car and ran it at fast idle several times over the winter and I fired right up every time. I ran it long enough
to get the engine hot and heat out of the heater. I also left the battery in the car last year on the trickle charger and didn't have a problem with it.
Unfortunately this winter was so bad that I wasn't able to actually drive the car at all like I have in past years. On nice days with bare and dry roads
I like to take her out and give it a good run but the crappy roads prevented that this year.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on March 13, 2015, 03:12:51 PM
Hi Ronnie

I know we're not exactly next door, but my "toybox" is always available for your use.  I just need good weather to get the other cars out <g>

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 13, 2015, 03:15:55 PM
 On batteries. I bought a 950CCA 78 Series AGM battery for use at the cabin. Now, I do know they have specific charge requirements, but would the supplied regulator work OK, or should I be looking for something more specific?

 The solar panels I am using are 2 Coleman 40W. So between them I hope to get 8W at full capacity.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 13, 2015, 06:02:10 PM
Thank you Sam. The toy box would be the perfect place to do it and I appreciate the offer but I was hoping for something closer to home. Next week I'm
going to start looking and of course my first stop will be with my friend and mechanic Tony who might be able to do something for me but his shop is a
busy one and when the weekend comes around he tries to stay away from there.
There was a business here several years ago where you could rent space for whatever amount of you time you would need to do something like mechanical
work and they would even rent you the tools. They also had a auto paint booth you could rent but I would have to check and see if they are still around.
If I can't find space locally I will use the toy box. The thing is I don't know if the Eldorado's trunk lid will close with my air compressor in it and I won't put it
in the back seat. I will check out that tomorrow.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on March 13, 2015, 06:16:37 PM
The regulator should have documentation indicating which batteries it supports.  It's likely the setup will work to some degree even without specific AGM support and any compromises (e.g. not utilizing 100% of the available charge window) would be determined by the regulator's characteristics.  Even though they're more tolerant of deep cycling, it's best to have surplus capacity and limit the depth of discharge.  "There's no replacement for displacement" also applies to battery capacity. :)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 13, 2015, 07:06:17 PM
How old is the battery?  Some automatic trickle chargers seem to run in float mode (constant voltage) for too long and either aren't designed or don't cycle to a bulk charging mode as needed.  Once the internal resistance of the battery increases, driving around won't be enough to help rejuvenate the battery, as it's too short a period and the battery can only accept a slow rate of charge in this condition.  What it needs is a 1-2 Amp constant current charger connected for 24-96 hours - essentially a controlled overcharge that will help restore the active area of the plates.   Voltage should peak to the 15-16 range depending on temperature, and then fall a few percent at completion.

I find the cold helps to slow down the chemical degradation of batteries, but they should be kept charged to prevent electrolyte freezing.
The battery is a Moto-Master from CTC and was made in Oct 2012 so I must have got it in early '13. I've had several batteries in this car since I got it in '06.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on March 13, 2015, 07:20:08 PM
The battery is a Moto-Master from CTC and was made in Oct 2012 so I must have got it in early '13. I've had several batteries in this car since I got it in '06.

RON

Do you have another charger you can try on it?  There's also a chance the trickle charger bit the dust over the winter.  Some voltage readings would help to establish if its output can still keep up with the Eldorado's parasitic loads.  Since the battery is just over 2 years old, it may qualify for a full replacement under warranty (an ACDelco Professional would be covered for at least 3 years).  It might be a good idea to have it load tested.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 14, 2015, 09:08:23 AM
I think you're right about the trickle charger Kevin. I was on all night and didn't do anything.
I do have a proper battery charger that I bought 13 years ago but I've rarely used it because I've never been quite sure I have set properly.
Right now it is set for a normal charge at 12 amps. What I don't like is the needle vibrating a little bit.
I guess all I can do is to leave it on all day and check it again before dark.

RON

 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 14, 2015, 04:15:34 PM
When I first hooked up the charger the needle was reading 2 amps. I just had a look at now and it was 5 amps. I tried to start it and it went back to 2 amps.
We'll see what it is in the morning. I'll take the car to CTC in the morning and get them to check it. I think I still have the receipt in the glove box.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on March 14, 2015, 05:43:19 PM
On a depleted battery, the charging current should start out high and fall gradually to ~2 Amps.  One thing to check on older chargers is the integrity of the connection between the copper strands of the wire to the terminal clips.  Sometimes the crimps are poor or there's corrosion; if the charging current changes as you wiggle the wires, there's a problem.  If it turns out the charger is good, it sounds like the battery is not able to accept a charge, likely due to sulphation from prolonged sitting at a low state of charge.  Hopefully there's enough remaining warranty so a replacement won't cost much.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 14, 2015, 08:45:15 PM
The green fully charged light is lit on the charger but the car still won't start. I think it's safe to say the battery is kaputski.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 14, 2015, 08:47:35 PM
The green "fully charged" light on the charger is lit but the car still won't start. I guess it's safe to say that the battery has gone kaputski.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on March 15, 2015, 11:49:23 AM
Surprise, I am in fact still alive.

This is a post of SUCCESS!



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 15, 2015, 12:02:27 PM
I was wondering if you had ever gotten around to that. I remember you saying something about the rear axle last year.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 15, 2015, 12:06:08 PM
The green "fully charged" light on the charger is lit but the car still won't start. I guess it's safe to say that the battery has gone kaputski.

RON
I just got back from a good run at least enough to put something back in the battery but there's nothing. I found the receipt from CTC. The battery was
new Dec 14 '14, 15 months ago.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on March 15, 2015, 12:07:31 PM
I have a battery load tester you can borrow. It could just be a cable or ground problem.

Yes, the rear end, it has been an ordeal but I am getting closer.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on March 15, 2015, 12:58:27 PM
Before buying a battery or accepting a new replacement, establish the date of manufacture; anything sitting on the shelf for more than 6 months might be problematic in the long run.  I'd also be wary of anything new below 12.5 V across the terminals; if they connected it to a charger to artificially freshen-up old stock the voltage will be in a decreasing state, so check again after a few minutes as it takes many hours to stabilize.  It's normal to wait 24 hours for a surface charge to dissipate to get an accurate reading.  Never leave home without your voltmeter. :)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 15, 2015, 02:40:31 PM
The battery was made in Oct 2012 according to the sticker on the side of the case. I think I saw another sticker that said it had to be charged by June 2013
and I got it in Dec 2014. Maybe that's why it failed.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 15, 2015, 04:20:19 PM
 Good to see you're back at it Joe!!

 Yes, I remember you talking about some issues with the diff. Jog my memory!!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on March 15, 2015, 07:34:43 PM
Issues are simple, the differential is broken.  =rofl= I haven't pulled the differential off the old housing to see what happened but looking at the half shaft I pulled out of the passenger side a bearing failed at that point. The splines are all chewed up on the half shaft.

I have another complete rear end out of a 38 60S. It took me weeks to strip it down. I eventually stumbled upon oven cleaner! Worked great. There is an overflow vent on the top of these differentials and it was overflowing for a lot of years... petrified grease (which was made from whale oil) mixed with gravel and sand is a nearly impossible thing to scrape off. I tried using wire brushes on the grinder but my budget doesn't support a new brush every 5 minutes. I didn't want to chisel it off and end up with dents and scratches in it. Oven cleaner turned it all to a goo that could be wiped off. Before turning it to goo it was more than an inch thick in many places.

The issue I have now is that another centre pin is broken. Frustrating. I am going to switch both out for grade 8 hex allan key bolts. I'm still looking for the torque specs on the u-bolts. I think that's why it broke again.

That assembly is DAMN HEAVY!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 15, 2015, 10:20:14 PM

 Oven cleaner is a great cleaner. I've used it a lot in the past. It even does a good job of stripping paint on my models.

 I wonder how it would compare in weight to the diff in my '70. That thing is a monster. Kinda makes you think about the whole unsprung weight theory.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on March 16, 2015, 06:33:39 PM
Here's how far I am today! I included a photo of the wiped out splines on the half shaft.



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 16, 2015, 10:26:30 PM

 Good to see you back to your old busy self.

 Man that shaft. Ouch. After this the entire drive line will be refurbished. And it looks as good as the top of the car. And what a treat to have everything performing as new.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on March 17, 2015, 09:34:58 AM
I punched the old sheared of centre pin and bought some allan head bolts to replace them. I suspect this happened to the new bolt (less than 500 miles on it) because the u-shackles weren't torqued properly to the axle. I haven't been able to find that torque spec but I think 85lbs should be enough. Last time I just tightened them and then retightened after a little bit of driving. I think I should have rechecked them again later.

EDIT: Found the torque spec in the factory manufacturing manual.... 45 - 52lbs! :/


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on March 17, 2015, 12:07:08 PM
I didn't do anything today, but this morning I noticed that the climate control was set to "economy"
 I pressed the button to put it on auto but it went straight back to economy.
I did a check for codes and got AC1347. (low refrigerant)
I can recharge it myself but I was just reading another forum where someone with the same problem couldn't get the compressor to start to pull refrigerant into the system.
Will clearing the code work or will I need to use a jumper wire?

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on March 17, 2015, 02:12:20 PM
AC1347 is triggered when the rate of decrease of the evaporator inlet temperature, shortly after the compressor is engaged, falls outside of a calibrated threshold for a given ambient temperature and a certain length of time.  Normally, this would be triggered once the refrigerant level falls to around 30%, but in cases where a different refrigerant is used (e.g. a non-azeotropic blend) or if the orifice tube changes (IIRC there's a TSB for improved hot idle cooling that specifies a smaller size), it's possible the threshold is a bit higher now, say 50-60%, which is actually better for the compressor.  AC1348 is associated with a 'very low' warning.  Almost everything would need to leak out in order to cause the low pressure switch to open; this would require a jumper wire to get things going.  Clearing AC1347 will restore compressor activity, but it's still too cold to assess the state of charge.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 17, 2015, 02:14:14 PM
Thank you Sam. The toy box would be the perfect place to do it and I appreciate the offer but I was hoping for something closer to home. Next week I'm
going to start looking and of course my first stop will be with my friend and mechanic Tony who might be able to do something for me but his shop is a
busy one and when the weekend comes around he tries to stay away from there.
There was a business here several years ago where you could rent space for whatever amount of you time you would need to do something like mechanical
work and they would even rent you the tools. They also had a auto paint booth you could rent but I would have to check and see if they are still around.
If I can't find space locally I will use the toy box. The thing is I don't know if the Eldorado's trunk lid will close with my air compressor in it and I won't put it
in the back seat. I will check out that tomorrow.

RON
Sam- I saw Tony this morning and said he would be willing to let me use his shop do my roof one Saturday morning. I'll wait until the first week or two
of April to do it. I think I have enough colour on hand but I'm going to mix up another small batch just to be safe. When I did your roof I had just enough
red but I wish I had had some left over.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on March 18, 2015, 12:46:21 PM
AC1347 is triggered when the rate of decrease of the evaporator inlet temperature, shortly after the compressor is engaged, falls outside of a calibrated threshold for a given ambient temperature and a certain length of time.  Normally, this would be triggered once the refrigerant level falls to around 30%, but in cases where a different refrigerant is used (e.g. a non-azeotropic blend) or if the orifice tube changes (IIRC there's a TSB for improved hot idle cooling that specifies a smaller size), it's possible the threshold is a bit higher now, say 50-60%, which is actually better for the compressor.  AC1348 is associated with a 'very low' warning.  Almost everything would need to leak out in order to cause the low pressure switch to open; this would require a jumper wire to get things going.  Clearing AC1347 will restore compressor activity, but it's still too cold to assess the state of charge.

I'll try clearing the code and adding a bottle of Red Tek 12 when it gets warmer outside.
 I hope I'm not going to have AC issues, good thing I have a sunroof. $sun$

GJ
 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 18, 2015, 01:59:57 PM

 Man, those sunroofs really are nice.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on March 19, 2015, 11:05:00 AM
Yea, they are nice. I just can't wait for warm enough weather to leave it open for more than 5 minutes.

BTW, I cleared the AC code and all is well....... so far.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on March 19, 2015, 12:00:17 PM
The refrigerant charge assessment algorithm uses a software accumulator.  Due to the limited compressor run-time below 5 C, it may take a while to gather enough data to trigger the code again.  Once we're above ~15 C, place it under load and feel the top of the accumulator.  It's difficult to generate enough load to assess the state of charge under 21 C ambient, but it will give you some idea if the AC1347 is legitimate or premature.  During the brief periods of warm weather, I sometimes warm up the interior until it becomes uncomfortable then engage the compressor and run on recirculate in an effort to warm the evaporator which keeps the compressor engaged for a longer than usual period; this helps to circulate the lubricant and provides an early indicator of how much refrigerant might have leaked out during the winter months.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on March 19, 2015, 02:12:36 PM
Or I could just hook a gauge up to it.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on March 19, 2015, 03:31:38 PM
Or I could just hook a gauge up to it.

GJ

 <lol> <lol>

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on March 19, 2015, 03:55:13 PM
Pressure readings are great for diagnosing specific issues, but they generally cannot be used to assess the volume of refrigerant because the conditions are too variable.  This is why the more recent service manuals specify acceptable ranges.  Readings will often be "acceptable" over a wide range of refrigerant levels and the only sure way is to evacuate and recharge with a known quantity.  Loading the system and feeling the accumulator is much quicker, safer and more accurate than connecting a set of gauges, and you won't let any escape in the process.

For example, the pressure of a 1 pound propane cannister containing 5 oz of propane will be at the same pressure as one containing 15 oz, assuming both are at the same temperature.  The only way the pressure would be lower than the vapour pressure of R-290 at a given temperature is if there's no liquid phase, in which case the quantity would be very low.  Therefore, using pressure as the only means of assessment would mean you'd only be able to verify that it was almost empty.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 20, 2015, 06:14:38 AM
That's what I said.  =rofl=
Woah,
I'm gonna stick my hand over the vent. If it feels cold, I'll take my wife for a test drive. If she says it's too powerful or too weak for her comfort I'll adjust accordingly.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 20, 2015, 08:36:39 AM
I finally got around to take that bad battery back to CTC. Lucky me, it still had 5 months left on the warranty so there was no charge.
I put it in the car and went for a nice little drive. Almost everything still works. I turned on the heater, the heater motor started then quit so
I'll have to switch out the ECC panel for another one. I should have 3 of them in my stash, I just hope one of them is OK.
I also have to use J-B Weld on one one of the wheel cover center caps. The peen for one of the mounting clips came off so J-B Weld should hold that
in place again. Decent center caps are very hard to find and expensive if you can find one.
I passed on a chance to buy a new, still in the box set of wire wheel covers several years ago because I thought $600 was too much. Now I kind of
wish I had bought them. My current set still look OK, considering how old they are, but perfect undamaged ones would be nicer.

RON



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on March 20, 2015, 11:00:11 AM
That sounds like it may be the blower control module or perhaps the blower motor packed in.
 It should be easy to access, try putting a test light on the terminals to see if it's getting power.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 20, 2015, 12:40:14 PM
I've had these controls quit on me before. This one is not original to my car. It's from an '84 parts car I had with a rear window defroster button.
Mine is a Florida car and doesn't have a RW defroster or switch. I will swap them out first before I start fooling around with testers and such.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 20, 2015, 05:09:12 PM

 Use a test light to see if there is power at the motor.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Young One on March 20, 2015, 07:24:00 PM
SO i took the 82 to a mechanic to get a safety and walked out with a laundry list of things that had to be done. Based on some of the things on the list i knew he thought i was a idiot.. such as a blower motor having one speed ... so i took the car and left in a cloud of smoke (only every owned FWD so i could never do a proper burn out). Before i left i did take a picture of his list cuz i have a bad memory. So far i have done the rear breaks, fixed the e brake, and replaced the flex lines. And wouldn't you know it doing the last one the break line snapped so thats tomorrows project. Between that and working i haven't had time for much else.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 20, 2015, 09:31:05 PM

 Can you post the list? I'd like to see what he called and why.

 So many mechanics are idiots and they feel a safety inspection is more subjective that objective. As far as the blower motor, so long as defrost works, it's OK.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 21, 2015, 08:20:56 AM
I've had these controls quit on me before. This one is not original to my car. It's from an '84 parts car I had with a rear window defroster button.
Mine is a Florida car and doesn't have a RW defroster or switch. I will swap them out first before I start fooling around with testers and such.

RON
The heater came on this morning and works like it should but I will swap out the ECC panel anyway then open it up and clean the switch contacts.
I've had to do that in the past as well.
I should also see if the A/C is still cold.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on March 21, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
I'd like to see that list as well.
 The rear brakes hadn't been done in a while and I know that the E brake wasn't working as well as it should have.
The blower motor always worked fine, however it would shut off for a couple of seconds on cold mornings but it always would start right back up (blower motor resistor perhaps).
 It sounds like they thought you were someone they thought they could make a ton of money from.
Where did you take it?

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Young One on March 21, 2015, 06:12:02 PM
here is the list... got the break lines done today but we ran out of acetylene to crack the bleeder screws so we gotta wait till monday :(


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Young One on March 21, 2015, 06:18:07 PM

Where did you take it?

GJ

i took it to C&S automotive on Victoria... they have done most of the work on the mistress  but once i saw this list i started having second thoughts... they are great guys but again this made me think twice... i got another guy named Walter at sick bay that is good at electrical so once the breaks are done its going there to fixx the battery issue and maybe the rear windows cost pending


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on March 21, 2015, 08:35:13 PM
Can't.  Stop.  My.  Self.  Brakes, not breaks.....

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on March 21, 2015, 09:28:24 PM
Can't.  Stop.  My.  Self.  Brakes, not breaks.....

Sam

Geez, I stopped doing that long ago. People misspell stuff and just let it slide.

I'm a correct spelling geek but who cares ? All you do is annoy other people when you bring it to their attention so just ignore it.

Funny thing is you can misspell almost all the words but people still get your message.

Told Gareth about the we're on facebook CISI thread title misspelling and he fixed me good on that one.

If the subject title is wrong that I can't handle.

Auto inspection is a bunch of BS for the most part, depending on where you live. We don't have emissions testing here in Maine, I don't think my garage will report me to the EPA since my new exhaust system doesn't have the " Cadillac " converter anymore. It definitely runs much better and with more power, can't imagine my emissions are worse now, likely lower.

Dem's da breaks or is it the brakes ? I have friends that are dyslexic and they get offended when you point out that fact with their misspelling so just go with the flow ..........

CDV  cheers%


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 22, 2015, 05:29:57 AM
Yes, it can be annoying to read something someone has written that has spelling mistakes or has been typed too quickly, not hitting the correct letters as
they go. I'm sure we've all done that at the keyboard but if you take the time to re-read and edit what you have written, before sending it out, all that can
be avoided. However, like CDV says, don't worry about it, as long as we know what the writer is saying it's OK.

RON























 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on March 22, 2015, 09:05:27 AM
Wipers have always been a problem on those cars, I put a new wiper motor in about 3 years ago?
 When they stop working just wiggle the arm coming from the motor and they will work fine. It may just need a shim.
A while back a wire broke in the harness between the drivers door and cowl. I spliced in a new wire but the rear windows didn't work so the problem is in the spot.
Blower motor should not be an issue. It always worked fine for me. Once the car is warmed up the temp sensor will automatically lower the fan speed. Also once it is warm switching between low and high will adjust the speed.
Jon has a grill, need to talk to him as to when he will be coming to Kitchener next.
The first place to check for the battery draw should be the headlight alarm module.
 If you wiggle the gear selector in neutral it will start, it probably needs to be tightened up.
Check for the oil leak where the dip stick tube goes into the block.
 There are a lot of little things that needed to be done, but it shouldn't cost a lot.

You should get a shop manual. It will show you how to fix pretty much everything and they can be had for a decent price.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1982-Cadillac-Service-Information-Manual-Eldorado-Seville-Fleetwood-Deville-/151612551947?hash=item234ccff30b&vxp=mtr

The struts will hold the trunk open in warm weather. When it gets cold out they stop working, but they are cheap and easy to replace. They can be had for about $15 each.

Perhaps we could plan a day for some members to get together to help with issues with cars.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on March 22, 2015, 11:27:04 AM
Whether the assessment is correct or not, how would any engine oil, coolant or transmission fluid leaks affect an inspection for a vehicle Safety Standard Certificate?  One can see how brake fluid, exhaust or axle seal leaks might affect safety under specific conditions, but if any of the first 3 were leaking at a rate to cause a vehicle to slide out of control, it wouldn't be able to operate for very long.  :)  The term "major leak" suggests to me that the item in question would be dripping visibly at a constant rate.  Signs of wetness with the occasional drop on the ground (once every few days) might be better characterized as seepage.  Could be someone is looking for a major cash infusion.

"Major battery draw" isn't an SSC concern as long as it doesn't affect the operation of any safety-related lights or equipment.  The loose grill would have to be hazardous to a pedestrian or passenger; if anything the factory hood ornament poses a greater risk!  A few zip ties may satisfy some inspectors with an inaccurate interpretation of the guidelines.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on March 22, 2015, 11:41:26 AM

http://www.ontariolicences.com/index.php/vehicles/safety-standard-certificate

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The Highway Traffic Act provides for the revocation of the Inspection Station licence where it can be proven that the station has oversold the amount of repairs required (i.e. forcing repairs or replacement of parts that are worn but still meet the inspection requirements), or where the station has conducted an improper inspection.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on March 22, 2015, 01:36:04 PM
The car has been oil sprayed every year, I wonder if the mechanic that looked at all the oil under the car determined it to be a leak, but I agree with Kevin, it appears that someone thinks they have found a cash cow.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 22, 2015, 09:23:00 PM
That drain on the battery in on the Body Fuse.  I don't want to jump to the conclusion that it's the alarm module since there are so many common things that can start a draw on that circuit.
From the look of that list, you went to the wrong shop to get a safety done.  While most of that stuff are things I'd want to fix over the long haul, you should be able to find someone who understands that this is a pleasure only, occasional driving car and let you fix it at your own pace.
I'll get that grille down shortly and figure out a plan.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 23, 2015, 11:58:45 AM

 A lot of things on that list are in no way connected to an inspection. Many have already been addressed. As I pointed out earlier, the fan need only to supply air for defrost purposes. The rear windows do not need to work, only the diver's window so that hand signals can be used if necessary.

 Idler arms and centre links are catch all for safeties as well. Most shops are not even aware of the correct procedure to check them.

 How bad are the brake shoes? Are the seals really leaking, or are they just damp? They must be leaking sufficiently enough to wet the shoes enough to impair braking.

 A battery drain has nothing to do with a safety.

 The NSS is an issue only if the car starts in drive or reverse.

 Brake lines can only be called if they are severely corroded or leaking. "Fair" isn't reason enough.

 Fluid leaks? No, not an issue. The trunk shocks? No.

 What is the fuse panel interfering with? Knowing where it is, I can't see it causing an issue. Just install the hush panel and you're good.

 The wipers, the e-brake, exhaust leaks, flex lines, grill, licence light. Yes. They need to be fixed.

 Really, the safety standards inspections are a lot more liberal than most people, or mechanics, realise. Most have never even read the book and just call things because they feel they can get you on it. It can be a form of blackmail, and many use it as such.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on March 25, 2015, 06:49:45 PM
Work in progress  :D



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on March 25, 2015, 07:08:26 PM
Wow, looks like a lot more than a typical respray!  Is there a particular reason the rocker and door jamb areas were taken down to bare metal?  There's no obvious rust and the paint/primer/sealant in these areas doesn't usually deteriorate due to lack of exposure.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on March 25, 2015, 07:19:59 PM
The original paint (being fully removed) was laquer (sp?); and checked.  It all had to be taken back to bare metal.  Thankfully, the car was a California car most of it's life, so there were only a couple of unhappy surprizes when the car was disassembled.  So far, we're still on budget  -yes-

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 25, 2015, 10:29:21 PM

 man, she's gonna be a beaut! I'm looking forward to seeing the final results. They are really getting into the innards and doing a really good job.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 26, 2015, 07:54:58 AM
That's pretty much how my car looked when it was done over however I don't know if the doors were ever removed but everything else was, fenders,
hood and trunk lid. Because my car sat outside for so many years I also had the windshield pulled so they could see if there was any rust behind it but
it was OK. I had a new windshield put in because the old one had a stone chip and the glass had that sandblasted look to it. My Dodge Caliber's wind-
shield is like that too.
The silliest part was having to pull the front fenders just to get the fender spears off. I'm sure there could have been a better design for that.
Today the trim is just peel and stick.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on March 26, 2015, 08:37:32 AM
The windshield will be pulled as well - it was incorrectly installed by Uniglass at Autostrada in London, On.  They reused the trim strip (!!) and the windshield is slightly off centre towards the driver's side.  I was treated very badly at the shop, and complaint calls went unreturned. 

Right now it's snowing  *yikes* so all thoughts of cruise-ins are far, far away.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on March 26, 2015, 09:20:49 AM

 man, she's gonna be a beaut! I'm looking forward to seeing the final results. They are really getting into the innards and doing a really good job.

 Mike

They are doing everything "once and right".  Next to my car is one of Steve's newest toys - an 1981 Seville sedan with less than 5000 miles on it.  It just needs the corners done (they are plastic and crumble with age), but to get to them, the bumpers need to be removed - so it's a PITA job.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on March 26, 2015, 09:21:41 AM
Ask to inspect the windshield trim moulding before it's installed to see if it matches the original appearance.  Even for some late model cars (OEM still available), I've seen some shops use a generic replacement to save a buck, and they almost always look odd in some way.  I would prefer a used, decent original to a new, generic black plastic strip.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on March 26, 2015, 09:43:43 AM
The original is a tacky looking metallic finish.  The gentlemen doing the restoration take great pride in checking into each car's unique history and make sure all parts are appropriate to the restoration.  They are helping me source the window whiskers (thankfully I only need the exterior) and encourage me to visit my car often.  I'd say these are 2 car "nuts" who's hobby happens to earn them a living. 

They made sure to carefully mask all original labels on the car.  So far, I'm completely satisfied with the work.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on March 26, 2015, 11:53:19 AM
The original paint (being fully removed) was laquer (sp?); and checked.  It all had to be taken back to bare metal.  Thankfully, the car was a California car most of it's life, so there were only a couple of unhappy surprizes when the car was disassembled.  So far, we're still on budget  -yes-

Sam

For a proper job you have to go bare steel on an older car with acrylic lacquer.

The topcoat paint is only as good as the substrate.

CDV



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 26, 2015, 12:17:56 PM
My door stickers weren't masked off, they were sandblasted off, a stupid thing to do. Fortunately Joe says he can recreate them and make a new
ones or at least reasonable facsimiles thereof. Last year at Doon he took some pics of Sam's door sticker but that's as far as he got.
I don't know what the material is for the windshield trim is but it wasn't reused on my car. The windshield guy put on a chrome plastic trim strip
meant for that application but it certainly didn't last. It looked good for a few years but now it's turned yellow and brown and should be replaced
again. I don't know if it's even possible to get a new proper Cadillac trim strip.
In retrospect I kind of wish I had asked them remove the rear window glass along with windshield. After the old vinyl top was removed the roof
was sanded to make it smooth again and to repair the rust damage (the only rust anywhere on the entire car was on the roof). While sanding the
sander touched the glass scratching it and I can see them every time I look in the rear view mirror.
My car was taken down to bare metal too then painted with a water based paint. Like Sam's car, the original Desert Frost Firemist was a lacquer
based paint and had to come off. There are no modern formulas for that paint colour so a paint scanner was used to come up with a formula
and the colour was based on what the computer said. The colour is slightly off from the original but is a really good match.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on March 26, 2015, 12:28:27 PM
So how long do we have to wait to see the finished product?

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on March 26, 2015, 12:34:19 PM
Part of the deal was they don't give a date - month or year - when the car will be ready.  They've been at this a long while, and told me that sometimes even the most straight forward jobs can get hung up over 1 part.  So I just visit the car, and wait for spring  :D

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 26, 2015, 12:46:11 PM
In other words "it's finished when we say it's finished" !

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 26, 2015, 01:37:02 PM
Chester had the laquer stripped down to bare metal as well, only way to ensure a long lasting repaint.
I also got the shop to give me their leftover paint, I had it mixed up in a rattle can and now I use it for touch ups. I just dab it on to any stone chips.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 26, 2015, 03:24:02 PM

 I've been chewing over a repaint on Vera. I may pop it over to see Mario and see what his opinion is. It won't be so involved, but I do want it to look decent and up to the looks of the roof.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Young One on March 26, 2015, 07:09:26 PM
 so i got the safety yesterday form a different shop. After the BRAKES, flex lines and axle seal, i zip tied the grill in place for now and also zip tied the fuse panel back up under the dash because it supposedly interfered with the BRAKE pedal.  i got to the MTO and waited around for 20 min just to find out i need an appraisal so the government can tax me on the higher amount wither it be the sale price or the appraised value. its a pain but either way i got a guy for that so we will see how things go tomorrow. Next week it goes to the "electrician" to address the battery issue and the wipers.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on March 26, 2015, 08:10:38 PM
My appraiser does 2 forms - one for insurance, and one for taxes.  He says that they never intersect, and no one is harmed.  I won't go into specifics as anything on the net is forever.  Try asking your appraiser if they are comfortable doing that.  Oh, and make sure the car is very dirty and ratty - that brings down the value for taxes, too.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 26, 2015, 08:20:25 PM
  Make sure to mention all the work you've done as value added after the purchase.
I had my cars appraised in the before-improvements state. Then I did a bunch of repairs/improvements, and had them re-appraised for insurance reasons. It depends on if you'll be getting "agreed value" insurance vs typical "stated value". Usually the classic car insurance guys are "agreed value" and require the second appraisal.  But if you don't like the restrictions that come along with the classic car insurance, you'll have to go with standard insurance that will do their own appraisal in the event of a claim. It can't hurt to have your own independent appraisal in your back pocket,  but legally it doesn't really mean anything for "stated value" insurance policies.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 27, 2015, 08:49:34 AM

 Which office did you go to? I have never had to have the done, but always hear reports of them asking for it. I go to the one on Weber St. where the Bulk Barn is.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on March 27, 2015, 11:35:52 AM
make sure the car is very dirty and ratty - that brings down the value for taxes, too.


That car has years of oil and dirt underneath. I always told everyone that you will get dirty just looking at it.
 The wiper issue should just be an adjustment.

either way i got a guy for that


It's always good to have someone like that. <naughty>

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 27, 2015, 02:07:33 PM
When I bought my car in '06 for $2100 I paid the taxes on $2100 but when it was appraised for insurance purposes the appraiser said it was worth $6500.
I wasn't asked by the DOT to produce any appraisal information but the insurance people did.
After the car was done over I called my broker and told them what was done and they upped the value to $8500. That value is probably the reason
they didn't scrap it after that accident last year. I called my broker today to check up on it and without my asking they upped it again to $10,500.
That added just $5 to my premiums which is due in July. I know I could never get $10,500 fot my car if I ever sold it.
She told me that an Eldorado in #1 concours condition is only worth $11,000 US for resale, about $14,000 Cdn. so these guys on Kijiji and Hemmings etc
are dreaming by asking $20,000+ for their Eldorados. I was also told that you don't have to have your car re-appraised to increase the insurance value.
Just call and ask them to do it, send in some pics of the car and it's done.

BTW  I'm going to recolour the roof on my Eldorado next Saturday. It's going to be the original factory colour. Can wait !

RON



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 27, 2015, 04:09:49 PM
What kind of insurance do you have?   By the sounds of it,  it is stated value.  They have no problem taking stated value claims without an appraisal as long as the stated value is within reason.  But it still gets assigned to an adjuster in the case of a claim to decide if it will get repaired.   
With agreed value,  there's no adjuster:  make a claim that's less that the agreed value, check is written. If the car is written off,  you get the agreed value.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 27, 2015, 04:32:22 PM
My broker is Lant Insurance Brokers, the carrier is Aviva (Elite Insurance), my premium in July will be $145 yr and there are no restrictions
on how I use my car.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 27, 2015, 06:38:45 PM
Hmm, sounds similar to what I have on the Wildcat.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 28, 2015, 04:41:49 PM
I was going going to recolour my roof next Saturday but I just realized it's the Easter weekend. I'm going to put off the roof for another week. I'd rather
spend the time with my grandkids, who will be here. I don't get to see them that often because they live 1 1/2 hrs away.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on March 28, 2015, 11:11:10 PM

 I've been chewing over a repaint on Vera. I may pop it over to see Mario and see what his opinion is. It won't be so involved, but I do want it to look decent and up to the looks of the roof.

 Mike

Okay Mike which Cadillac is " Vera " , I assume the blue one needs new paint to match the roof.

You should list the names of your car like " Fins " does .......... " Sweetpea " for his former 59 Cadillac , etc.

Easy for me, my 66 is " Cadzilla " but you already knew that. Cadzilla will exit the Bat cave tomorrow after sitting dormant for one year, have to make room for the  G 20 Vanzilla WP R&R.

Yeah, I have to finish the 66 CDV someday , maybe when pigs fly or hell freezes over but rightly so you should break my balls in that respect. Like WTH is wrong with you CDV ?

Too much work into that car and the electrical problems have started from sitting too long, everything stops working but it runs and drives for now.

CDV



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 29, 2015, 08:40:03 AM

 Yeah, Vera is the blue '90. The paint overall isn't bad, but it was a bad job in application. The CC on the hood had all peeled off and there is a big rust spot at the left rear, so the hood needs to be replaced. I'll be scouring the wreckers looking for one come spring.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on March 29, 2015, 09:23:03 AM
I noticed the mismatched paint on that car but it was a solid ride and a good deal.

For a repaint you don't have to replace the hood just strip it down to bare steel.

Can't imagine having one of those cars with the 305 CI engine, must be a dog and it has the three speed tranny. You need power for these big cars and I have the same drive train : LO5, make good power and have the legendary 700R4 tranny, the street rod weapon of choice.

Times change, want to be really cool now you need the 4L80E like Greg with his 502 Ramjet in his 26 hearse. That drive train barely fits under the hood, custom headers are tight to the frame, U joints on the steering column, the floor boards are plywood and I had to custom contour them around the tranny with 1/4" clearance. Tight cooling system clearance with the custom radiator and the mechanical fan, etc.

A psycho street rod, I nicknamed him " Captain Insano " after the movie " The Water Boy " of Adam Sandler " fame.

And he said " I am insane " ( for building that street rod ) and he admits it. Me too, you have to be a psycho to succeed in this world.

How bad do you want it and are you willing to go the distance at all costs ? Risks involved you can crash and burn but at least you gave it all you had and you tried.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex7xsCFI_c8

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 29, 2015, 07:03:08 PM

I've had these controls quit on me before. This one is not original to my car. It's from an '84 parts car I had with a rear window defroster button.
Mine is a Florida car and doesn't have a RW defroster or switch. I will swap them out first before I start fooling around with testers and such.

RON
[/quote]
The heater came on this morning and works like it should but I will swap out the ECC panel anyway then open it up and clean the switch contacts.
I've had to do that in the past as well.
I should also see if the A/C is still cold.

RON

So far so good. The blower motor works as it should but I can't find any of the 3 spare ECC panels that I know I have. The parts I have are all
mixed together in boxes on shelves in the fruit cellar so I'll have to dig a little deeper to find them.

 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 29, 2015, 08:17:32 PM

 Cool, good the hear it works. These panels are not easy to find anymore.

 The rust is in the hood, an big crusty blotch at the rear. I have never seen a hood do this before. The rest of the car is very solid save for the left front floor pan, rusted from years of leaking windshield.  I'm looking for a replacement pan, but so far can't find anything. I'd rather do that than just stuff in a piece of tin.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on March 30, 2015, 08:32:20 AM
If the hood isn't rusted through the body shop can clean that up without replacing it.

Ron


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 30, 2015, 10:00:12 AM

 It has rusted trough. The rust came from under the hood. It's far easier and cheaper to just find another.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 30, 2015, 10:05:04 AM

 I went to NAPA and bought filters for all 4 Cadillacs. Just need to score a pail of oil now. As soon as we get a decent day, I'm going to get some oil changes done.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Young One on March 30, 2015, 06:32:07 PM
noob here... i was told to use 15w40 in the 82 but it seems to be all diesel oil... is this correct to use? and is there regular 15w40 and synthetic 15w40? or is it all 1 in the same... i have only ever dealt with 5w30 and 10w30.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Young One on March 30, 2015, 06:46:50 PM
oh and i noticed the other day the the coolant was low but i dont know if i can put in universal coolant or if i have to use dex-cool? i know the older vehicles can be picky and i figure this is the best place to ask.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on March 30, 2015, 07:32:17 PM
Most diesel engine oil is also certified for spark-ignition engines.  Diesel oils are formulated to deal with harsher operating environments, and their additive package is also particularly suitable for older engines that have a lot of rubbing elements like flat tappets and distributor drive gears.  The 15W-40 grade is thicker than the OEM recommendation, but it shouldn't cause any trouble unless it gets unusually cold.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on March 31, 2015, 06:17:17 AM
Thicker oils are also better for older engines that have more clearances than new, unworn engines. I usually do 10w30 with a stabilizer additive that thickens it but I believe GJ has gone the 15w40 route in that car. Either way, 5w30 would be too thin for her.
You never want to mix dexcool (orange) and green coolant together. That car has standard green coolant with some additive tabs crushed up and mixed in. You can get the tabs from the dealership ($5 for 6) and you put 1 tab for every 2L of fresh coolant mix. The tabs are because of the aluminum block.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on March 31, 2015, 07:27:59 AM

 That car has used 15W40 since at least my dad has owned the car. It's the best oil to use in that car. Also, use the green coolant.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on March 31, 2015, 11:27:25 AM
That's right, It has had nothing but 15W40 ever since its been in the family.
Preferably Rotella T.
 Dex Cool was introduced in 1996 if I remember correctly, it has had nothing but the green stuff in it and it has been changed every 2 years and was changed back in October.
 I suspect the reason it's a bit low is that the overflow reservoir isn't hooked up. There is a hose that just runs under the car. Why? I have no idea.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on March 31, 2015, 03:39:04 PM
The GM coolant supplement tabs (mainly ground ginger root) are required for all HT4100, 4.5 and 4.9 engines.  Although they do help with aluminium casting porosity, I understand the main reason in this application was to help with the O-ring sealing at the bottom of each cylinder liner.  Normal use could result in some internal coolant intrusion if the supplement is not used; over time, this could lead to a worn distributor drive gear and/or camshaft.  The advantage of the wet liner design is the manufacturing of each liner could be controlled carefully, resulting in a longer wearing and more consistent surface finish, plus they can be replaced relatively easily if something goes wrong.

The coolant supplement fibres do wear out as they come into contact with the water pump impeller and get chopped into smaller and smaller pieces, which is why 6 are required every 2 years of normal usage.  Wet ginger root has an unusual property in that it swells as it dries which makes it ideal for sealing small, nuisance leaks.  It works well enough for use in nuclear power plants!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 01, 2015, 08:38:05 AM
I have seen ginger used many times to help seal a leaky heater core, but it will make the interior smell like a bakery.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 01, 2015, 09:12:50 AM

Leaching of coolant into the oil was the main cause of camshaft lobe and gear wear. Oil has some capability of absorbing coolant and showing no ill effects, but when the oil becomes saturated that's when the problems occur. So again, lack of maintenance is the culprit. Infrequent oil changes, and lack of using the tabs led to many engine failures.

 In early engine, much of the leaching cam from head gaskets. The engine I tore down, the original that came from the '82 Fleetwood, showed evidence of leakage of the head gaskets into the lifter valley. The cam had several compromised lobes, a coupe that were completely round.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 05, 2015, 11:34:41 AM
Yesterday I took my Concours in to have it professionally cleaned @ EZ Car Care.
 I have never gone to a detailing shop before so I didn't know exactly what expect.
When I got there to pick up the car they were still working on it, but upon walking into the shop area I was blown away with how good it looked. I thought shale was a dirty colour until I saw it cleaned up. I should have taken pics yesterday as it's covered in snow now.
 I must say that it was money well spent and I will use their service again as well as recommend it to everyone that doesn't have that much time or ambition to do it themselves and the price was right.
  They will have your car in show condition in about 2-3 hours depending on how dirty it is.
I'll take some pics today if the snow melts off of it.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 05, 2015, 12:06:06 PM
A good detailing shop can turn a ugly slug into a princess. It can get pricey sometimes but it's worth the expense. I've had the Eldorado done a few times
and it always looks great afterwards.
One shop I really like is the Delta Sonic "Kissing Clean" car wash in Niagara Fall NY. They are full service, do awesome work and the are A LOT cheaper
than most other shops but are too far away to go to on a regular basis.
I want to get my car done again mostly to just clean the paint and put down a heavy coat of wax but that's the better part of $200 here.


RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 05, 2015, 12:23:29 PM
Talk to TJ, he might get you more for less$$

Packages.  http://www.ezcarcare.ca/rates.html


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 05, 2015, 12:54:51 PM

 Yeah Ron. Bring it down, good excuse for a visit.

 I saw the car yesterday as well, and yes, it looks great! I'm tossing the idea about getting Victoria's interior done over.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on April 05, 2015, 01:11:43 PM
Is Victoria the gold Fleetwood ?

You should list the names of your Cadillacs on your handle, I must be slow, stupid or getting Alzheimer's disease these days.

My mind goes blank when you mention your car names and I'm clueless. Can't keep track of your Cadillac fleet anymore.

As I always tell most people just humor me ........ the Redneck from Maine ......... maybe when the snow finally melts away my mind will return.

CDV  eh%


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 05, 2015, 01:16:37 PM
I might just do that. I printed off a copy and will keep it.

I could never get into giving my car a name. There's nothing wrong or goofy with it, I just chose not to.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 05, 2015, 02:07:29 PM
A good detailing shop can turn a ugly slug into a princess. It can get pricey sometimes but it's worth the expense. I've had the Eldorado done a few times
and it always looks great afterwards.
One shop I really like is the Delta Sonic "Kissing Clean" car wash in Niagara Fall NY. They are full service, do awesome work and the are A LOT cheaper
than most other shops but are too far away to go to on a regular basis.
I want to get my car done again mostly to just clean the paint and put down a heavy coat of wax but that's the better part of $200 here.


RON
I looked up Hydro Shine Wax and it looks like any other spray on wax and I've got several different brands of that stuff. What I really want is
a good quality hand rubbed carnubba paste wax job. It's been many, many years since I last did that myself. It's a lot of work that I don't want to do again.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 05, 2015, 02:42:40 PM

 I just bit the bullet and ordered a pair of front springs and 2 lower ball joints from Rock Auto. That should get the front sitting the way it should be and make the car drive sweet again. That broken spring on the left front is beginning to make it a bear to drive.

 Once I get the car out, I'll assess the front end closer and see if there is anything else I need.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 05, 2015, 03:03:58 PM

 And I found they had an evaporator, an AC/Delco unit to boot. lat one, so that's coming too. I'll have some work to do when I get here here!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on April 05, 2015, 07:12:20 PM

 And I found they had an evaporator, an AC/Delco unit to boot. lat one, so that's coming too. I'll have some work to do when I get here here!

 Mike

" Atta boy ", I enjoy watching a professionally trained GM Cadillac mechanic repair his pride and joy Cadillac rides.

We expect a full report with pictures and a blow by blow sequence of the work you performed.

Go ahead and show off so we can learn how to from the master, or as Boss Hogg calls you " The Wizard ".

Child's play for you, the rest of us are clueless until you show us the way or as I say " Show me the $$$ " then you'll get my attention.

CDV





Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 05, 2015, 07:47:40 PM

 Rest assured there will pictures. And I think I can get that evaporator out of there without pulling the dash like the FSM says.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 06, 2015, 11:56:07 AM
The sun is shining today so I took some pics of the car to show off the nice cleaning job I had done.
 I should have taken before pics, It was really dirty. There is a bit of dirt on it from the snow we got yesterday but it looks good.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 06, 2015, 11:56:40 AM
 $sun$


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 06, 2015, 05:12:33 PM

 Very nice!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 06, 2015, 05:18:07 PM
Wow, that's a pretty impressive difference from when I saw the car.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 06, 2015, 06:15:41 PM
Looks good enough for me to sit in the back and be chauffered.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 07, 2015, 07:57:01 AM
Wow, that's a pretty impressive difference from when I saw the car.

It really needs to be seen in the flesh to appreciate the difference, but you might remember that the steering wheel was almost black.

Looks good enough for me to sit in the back and be chauffered.

Sam

And there is plenty of room back there, I have got a lot of comments on the size of the interior. The car looks small from the outside but has interior space of much larger cars.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 07, 2015, 09:24:57 AM
Do I see a speaker on the front door on the arm rest?

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 07, 2015, 09:53:18 AM
Yes you do. There are 2 speakers in each door, 2 in the parcel shelf and one in the dashboard. 11 in all.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 07, 2015, 10:09:01 AM
That's what i call surround sound.  Sweet !

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 09, 2015, 09:21:55 AM
 Yesterday most of the parts I ordered for the '70 arrived. The evaporator core, ball joints and exhaust manifold gaskets. Just the springs to come yet. I ordered all AC/Delco where it was available. The box for the evaporator looked old, the tape having yellowed and peeld off. But when I opened it, there was a very pleasant surprise within. This thing looks to be OEM new old stock! Check out the Harrison label!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on April 09, 2015, 10:18:06 AM
Nice parts. What's with the giant pictures ? lol

I picked up my stash yesterday for my van at the P.O. so I'll post a picture too. Saved a few $$$ from Rock Auto and they have a better selection of parts and some parts Napa doesn't have. Got a Hastings oil filter too.

Opened the t-stat box and dooooooh ! They don't give you a gasket so I'll get that at Napa.

Right too many apps so no gasket for you. 

Silly Rednecks, take photos of our parts before we install them. I save the old parts and put them in the new box, old parts come in handy sometimes. No core charge for the 1990 SBC WP ........ no shortage of cores yet.

My 67 evaporator was in good nick for the guy Down Under that bought all the parts, he got a deal - everything I could " strip and ship " ( pun intended ) for $ 1,200 and I mean everything. Three boxes all told 260 lbs.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 09, 2015, 10:42:49 AM

 Hmm.  6chin6  Dunno about the big pics. That's never happened before.

 Yeah, Rock Auto is the place to go. So much, and good prices. Gaskets generally don't come with the stats. The same stat fits so many differant applications.

 Mike

 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 11, 2015, 12:13:18 PM
Got it out of storage yesterday. whoo/hoo


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 11, 2015, 01:11:33 PM

 Yep. And I drove to London today. Man does that car run the 401 nice. We're here to see Jo Bonamassa.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 12, 2015, 08:56:48 AM
I took it in to get the oil changed yesterday. I had to put a few miles on it to blow out the cobwebs from it sitting all winter. It's running great now.
 Every winter it leaks a bit of oil and transmission fluid. I have a small oil drip now and am hoping that it will re-seal itself as I put more miles on. Has anyone here tried any products that are supposed to stop oil leaks?
 I really don't want to replace the pan gasket if I don't have to.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on April 12, 2015, 10:48:00 AM
Has the oil pan ever been removed?  I've read about LT1s leaking from the rear of the intake manifold. 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 12, 2015, 10:52:47 AM
It hasn't been removed to my knowledge. I've had the car since Sept 08 and I've never opened it up.
 I don't have much in the way of service records before I bought it.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 12, 2015, 10:58:55 AM
It's rare those pan gaskets leak. They are a really nice composite silicone. Intake gaskets are easy to replace. The manifold is dry, you don't need to drain the coolant.

 We just got back from London. Joan ran perfectly. Man what a great highway car these things are. Nice to have her back.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 12, 2015, 02:38:32 PM
I took my DTS to a couple of Car Audio shops for a quote to upgrade my current system to bluetooth compatible and improve the crappy sound quality of the bass.  Because it has steering wheel controls (which I adore) and a microphone (needed for bluetooth) it needs expensive computer modules to hook everything together.  The deck (radio) is only $200.  It's the new sub woofer (in a box), new amp (5 way) computer modules, and installation that add up with tax to ~2k.  My 06 is worth, on a good day, 8k.  She has 140k km.

So, I'm bouncing different ideas off the wall here - need some feedback pls.  While I adore the Tesla, realistically, it's out of range, for now.  I was hoping to spend ~1k to upgrade my audio system and keep the car for another 2-3 years max.  However, the numbers adding up to over 25% of the car's value simply doesn't make sense.  I have been searching for a low km 2011 DTS in either Red or white, but that is seeming impossible.  The newer models have bluetooth and better audio systems than the 2006.  I found 2 in Burlington, but they both had black interiors, which I can't stand.  We went to look at a new Buick LaCrosse, but Bruce didn't fit the driver's seat very well, and I found it snug.

I'm not sure which way to swing.  I can't live with the lack of bluetooth and crappy sound much longer.  I'm not keen on buying a new CT6 simply because a) it's new and b) I hate buying new and leaving 50% off at the curb.

I'm throwing this out there for discussion.  Ideas?

Sam





Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 12, 2015, 06:58:55 PM
I cleaned my car today and gave the roof a good scrubbing. I actually saw how much cleaner it was after using SEM Soap.
I found a large sheet of vinyl material and cut a piece to the same shape and size as the side of the roof. I did some test colouring to see how what I
mixed for my roof would look. It appeared to be darker than I thought it should be and it contrasted the paint colour too much. My thinking is that the
vinyl roof colour should be as close to body colour as possible. You can't get a perfect match because you're putting 2 different types of paint onto
2 different materials.
I slowly tweaked it with a bit of yellow and more silver metallic then sprayed it onto the sheet of vinyl I cut. After it dried enough to handle I taped it
to the side of the roof and compared it with the body colour. The colour now looks to be what I'm looking for so I'll leave it taped the roof for a few days.
As it cures the colour can change by about half a shade.

RON



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on April 12, 2015, 07:16:12 PM
Cool, a custom matched color of your choice.

What I did with my 66 CDV paint job,  a 1960 Eldorado color " heather mist poly ". Actually a GM factory color used in the the 90's, very nice. Called " lilac poly " for my app. Did the vinyl roof with the newer leather type grain in white, what I wanted.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 12, 2015, 07:36:45 PM
 We went to look at a new Buick LaCrosse, but Bruce didn't fit the driver's seat very well, and I found it snug.


Sam


What about a Lucerne?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 12, 2015, 07:51:30 PM
Is the Lucerne larger than the LaCrosse?  I'm not too familiar with the Buick line :-(

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 12, 2015, 08:02:45 PM
Yes,  the Lucerne is the full sized buick, the Lacross is the mid-sized.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 13, 2015, 09:50:43 AM
I am happy. The colour I put on that piece of vinyl dried about a shade darker than the body colour and is almost bang on to matching the factory
vinyl roof colour.

RON bananna'


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 13, 2015, 10:18:54 AM

 Awesome!!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 13, 2015, 10:51:33 AM
Woo Hoo!   whoo/hoo

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on April 13, 2015, 11:53:00 AM

I'm throwing this out there for discussion.  Ideas?

Sam





I would check to see what audio system your car came with. If it's the base system try looking on eBay for the premium system. It would also be plug and play. Ask your Audio guy if Bluetooth can be hooked up to an upgraded Cadillac system.

Notice:
The chime signals related to safety belts,
parking brake, and other functions of your vehicle
operate through the GM radio/entertainment system.
If that equipment is replaced or additional
equipment is added to your vehicle, the chimes may
not work. Make sure that replacement or additional
equipment is compatible with your vehicle before
installing it.

I pulled that from a Google search on your owners manual.
Sound systems start at 3-97
http://cdn.dealereprocess.com/cdn/servicemanuals/cadillac/2006-dts.pdf

GJ



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 13, 2015, 03:24:15 PM
Yes,  the Lucerne is the full sized buick, the Lacross is the mid-sized.

I test drove a well loaded 2011 Lucerne today.  It's a gutless wonder.  Has everything I want as far as size, audio, power everything, but when I put the pedal to the metal, it took a message and said it would get back to me later.

I went back and asked what size the motor was.  3.9L and "anemic" (his words).  It apparently came with a North Star caddy engine in the top of the line; so he's going to see if he can find one for me to try.  sigh.

Back to the drawing boards.  I'm still trying to wrap my head around 2k for a new sound system and keeping the old car.  Or maybe just using the 2014 Sierra as my daily driver and giving up the caddy altogether.  Though the mileage would be worse, they'd be a huge saving from running one less vehicle.  Decisions, decisions - and no black or white answer.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on April 13, 2015, 03:47:18 PM
The Lucerne is based on the same platform as the DTS but has about 4 inches less overhang and a correspondingly smaller trunk.  A Northstar was available in earlier CXL models, but later, it became a CXS/Super model exclusive; look for the 4 Port Holes on the front fenders.  The latter are equipped with MagneRide which yields a better ride and handling combination.  

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Buick/Lucerne/Beamsville/Ontario/5_23552361_20130205094154755/?showcpo=ShowCPO&orup=3_100_190

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Buick/Lucerne/Barrie/Ontario/5_23403556_ON20080505103836703/?showcpo=ShowCPO&orup=6_100_199

The above Super has the optional cooled seats judging from the door panel switches.  Since it's a Buick, the wood, except for the steering wheel and shifter handle, is all plastic even though it's the top model; the Luxury III and Performance DTSes have real wood all around.



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 16, 2015, 02:53:35 PM
 I gave Vera a bath.

 Then got into that alternator that I got from Jon. The one that failed on Peach. The problem was the rotor. It was open, so no field could be generated. Plus the shaft was seized to the bearing. So off I went. Stopped at Princess Auto and grabbed a small 3 finger puller, then to Highland Starter and scored a used rotor.

 The puller worked a treat, and I got it back together. Now I just need to test it. Likely by installing it into Vera, which is not a big job.

 We're getting the downstairs halway floor done today, so hence the project. Beauty day and in the garage......

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 16, 2015, 07:09:41 PM
Sounds like you might have it fixed  rock:on
I'm happy I sold you the core if it turns into a useful spare for you.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 17, 2015, 08:05:59 AM

 It is odd that the rotor failed. That's not usually a problem area on these. The rest that I could check was good. But on these the diode trio was replaced with another arrangement that I don't know how to test. And of coarse the regulator can't be tested. But I did find a problem.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 27, 2015, 02:52:33 PM
Finally. Tomorrow my roof gets done. After Tony closes the shop at 5 I can use it. I'll get there for 3 or so to give the roof another good cleaning then
mask the chrome and prep the roof again. Once it's inside then I'll finish masking and cover the rest of the car. Applying the colour is the easy part, it's
the masking and prepping that's time consuming.
I'll leave the car inside overnight so the colour can cure properly and I'll pick it up sometime on Wednesday. A day in the bright sun should finish the curing
then I'm good to go.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 27, 2015, 05:32:45 PM

 Excellent! And it looks like you'll have a few good days of warm and sunshine to do the job.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 27, 2015, 06:54:01 PM
As long as it doesn't rain for few days it should turn out looking good. SEM makes the best paint for doing this. It's expensive to buy in Canada but it
lives up to the claims SEM makes about it. It dries quickly to the touch but requires at least 24 hours to cure thoroughly.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on April 27, 2015, 07:02:11 PM
SEM products are very good, I've bought their vinyl coat products.

We took a pair of brown 1987 F series plastic door panels, washed them down with soapy water and rinsed.

Used their spray prep product then coated the with a SEM blue color, very durable.

Did the same on my 66 CDV plastic arm rest pieces, came out fantastic.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 27, 2015, 08:45:18 PM
It's unfortunate that the prices are as high as they are here but it's got something to do with it's volatility. The shipping and duty etc or something also
adds to the cost here. Because I don't really do that much vinyl repair etc any more I only get SEM by the quart at $95 + taxes. In the US a quart is
about $70 and depending on what colour I have to mix up a quart may not last that long, especially if I screw up a mix. I use a small balance beam scale,
similar to the scales drug dealers use, for mixing colours. If I'm mixing a large batch of colour like for my roof or a dash pad, a few too many drops of
one colour can ruin the entire mix and I won't get the colour I want.
Once it's on SEM paint is very durable. If it's put on properly it will not chip, peel or crack and it's supposed to be UV resistant too.

RON



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on April 28, 2015, 12:36:15 AM
I used one of their stock colors in a spray can, very reasonable for the $$$.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 28, 2015, 07:27:05 AM
Nobody here stocks SEM aerosols so it's usually a special order even if it's just a standard colour. The stuff I use is only meant for mixing formulas.
SEM does have a range of standard solid colours in spray cans but I don't use them and again they are a special order. Canadian Tire has a range of
solid colours and affordable aerosols for that.
The only people here who use SEM are professionals who want to use the best. If I have a need for paint in a rattlecan then my paint supplier will
do that. I could mix it myself but a rattle can only contains an ounce or so of paint so I would probably wind up mixing a lot more than I would
actually need and putting it in a spray can requires special equipment that I don't have access to.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 28, 2015, 11:06:34 AM

 The springs arrived for the '70 last week when we were away. Now I have to go and get them compressed for easy installation.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 28, 2015, 07:12:22 PM
Well, I did it. The new roof colour looks good. Too bad it's the wrong damn colour. It's too dark, more like a light chocolate. I must have done something
wrong when I mixed it. Too many drops of yellow I think. Like I said before, it doesn't take much to screw up a mix and that's exactly what I did. It's not
the first time and it won't be the last. If it were just a few ounces of paint it wouldn't be a big deal but this was a whole quart worth over $100. At least it
won't be scrapped, I'll save it and use it somewhere else one day.
I'll have to let the roof cure for a week or so then I'll try again but this time I'll get my supplier to mix it for me.

RON  :'( :'(


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on April 28, 2015, 08:21:33 PM
It happens, drop back and punt. You'll get it the way you want it to look, nothing lost. Nice thing about it, take a mulligan.

SEM products: http://www.tcpglobal.com/Automotive-Paint/SEM-Products/

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on April 28, 2015, 08:24:49 PM
SEM products.

I contacted them five years ago online and they sent me the brochures for all of their products.

They have a quite extensive line of products.

http://www.semproducts.com/

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 28, 2015, 09:23:18 PM
Well, I did it. The new roof colour looks good. Too bad it's the wrong damn colour. It's too dark, more like a light chocolate. I must have done something
wrong when I mixed it. Too many drops of yellow I think. Like I said before, it doesn't take much to screw up a mix and that's exactly what I did. It's not
the first time and it won't be the last. If it were just a few ounces of paint it wouldn't be a big deal but this was a whole quart worth over $100. At least it
won't be scrapped, I'll save it and use it somewhere else one day.
I'll have to let the roof cure for a week or so then I'll try again but this time I'll get my supplier to mix it for me.

RON  :'( :'(

OUCH - sorry to hear that.    :rant:

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 30, 2015, 08:36:57 AM
Now that it's been a few days since the roof screw up, the colour I put on really doesn't look that bad. It actually compliments the car better than the
almond colour did but it's still not right. Those who have seen it like the new colour better than the old and If it were just an ordinary Eldorado it would
be OK to leave it like that but being a Biarritz the roof colour has to match that of the paint. I called my supplier to mix a fresh quart for me so I will
probably redo it sometime next week.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 30, 2015, 09:02:04 AM

 How often can you repaint over the vinyl?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on April 30, 2015, 09:13:35 AM

 How often can you repaint over the vinyl?

 Mike

Until he runs out of money   :poke:   =rofl=

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on April 30, 2015, 09:43:47 AM
It's OK to do it more than once but too many times will fill the grain lines. The grain on my roof is quite heavy so I'll be OK. On a convertible top however,
because it has to flex so much going up and down, eventually it will crack if done more than once. I did a ragtop once many years ago and I will never do
one again. It turned out OK but cleaning it first was really hard work. If a convertible top is cleaned properly and cared for from new on a regular basis it
would never need re-colouring. I've only ever known one person to do that. Before I got married a friend of mine had a beautiful "63 Pontiac Bonnevile
convertible. It was a sort of burnt orange with a black top. He had a ritual when putting the top down. In between each fold of the roof he would lay a large
soft beach towel and an extra towel to protect the plastic rear window, he was that fussy. Then he met a girl and they eventually married and to save money
on insurance Barry put the ownership of his car in his wife's name. Something happened and one day when he got home from work, she was gone, the car
was gone and so was the bank account never to be seen again.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 30, 2015, 08:06:35 PM
Finally got Chester out on the road today.  Took it to work.   :sunny: The tires had a slight vibration from sitting all winter but that had all but disappeared by the ride home. The A/C is working great now that the thermal switch is replaced.  It's not as cold as it could be and it's cycling often from low pressure so I'll add a can of red tek which should take care of that. The TCC solenoid I put in over the winter is working great, I was watching the fuel efficiency readout and it has made a good difference on the highway.
The other thing I did over the winter was replace the front shocks.  It handled great and no more front end bounce on every time you touch the brake on the highway.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on April 30, 2015, 10:26:23 PM

 Nice. I find front shocks are quite important on these cars. Even if they otherwise seem fine, they can still affect the ride quality, especially on the highway. I used to love the Delco Gas Shocks, but I don't think they are available anymore. Something else that is important is the steering stabiliser. When they were you can experience a front end shimmy similar to a speed wobble under certain circumstances. These cars run 5 degrees of positive caster, so that stabiliser is needed.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on April 30, 2015, 10:44:19 PM
I told my mechanic I had HD Monroe shocks on my van.

He said they are junk, KYB's are good quality. I call them KGB's just for laughs and said I installed Bilsteins on my 66 Corvette and he said better yet.

When it comes to parts you want the good stuff.

CDV



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on April 30, 2015, 10:48:41 PM
I was able to get the high end ACDelco gas shocks. The same shocks are for the roadmasters too so I picked up 6 last fall.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 01, 2015, 07:38:38 AM

 That's cool. They were a good deal too. What did you pay for them and where did you get them?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 01, 2015, 06:14:53 PM
Rockauto, part no 5309


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 01, 2015, 10:25:01 PM

 Cool. I should make a note of that for when I need them.....

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 01, 2015, 10:29:52 PM

 Looked them up for the '91. Same number. I remember them being painted silver when they first came out. $38 per. Still a bargain.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 02, 2015, 07:45:08 AM
They could be a revised version.  No guarantee that they are still the same high end ACDelco as before,  but the ride quality in Chester and Rocky are still good after the swap.    Peach's ride quality will always be rough unless I swap out the heavy duty suspension components the previous owner put in for trailering his camper. Peach sits 2-3 inches higher than Rocky.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 02, 2015, 09:38:58 AM
A lot of people put 9C1 springs in and Bilstein shocks. I'd leave them in, they ride a bit harsh but handle very well.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 03, 2015, 09:25:38 AM
Added a can of Redtek to Chester. It's nice and cool even at idle but it's still cycling often from low pressure. I'll add another can after I pick up some more (never thought I'd miss KW Surplus).


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 03, 2015, 09:48:55 AM
Under low demand conditions (like now), it doesn't take much refrigerant to flood the evaporator and achieve adequate cooling.  It's always best to operate the system at over 80% charge to ensure enough lubricant returns to the compressor (the return line should be cool while under max load) and to prevent the compressor from overheating (excessive superheat) which hurts seals and destroys the lubricant.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 03, 2015, 10:09:39 AM
I put a can of Red Tek in the Concours yesterday. It's nice and cold /brrr/

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 03, 2015, 02:22:16 PM

 So far the AC in both Joan and Victoria is ice cold. We went out for a drive today in Victoria. It works very well.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 03, 2015, 02:54:10 PM

 Yesterday I changed the oil in Joan, Vera and Victoria. I washed Joan and Vera. The inside mirror fell of Victoria yesterday, so I stopped at Partsorce and grabbed an adhesive kit while I was out. Victoria also got a bath.

 I just finished putting the button on the wind shield. Have to wait 1/2 hour to mount the mirror.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 03, 2015, 07:42:21 PM
I've had to reattach many of those mirrors. Seems to be a bit of a GM weak spot.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 04, 2015, 07:23:26 AM

 The kit I got was made by Permatex. That last ones I got were not. It is a bit different in procedure and content. So I think it will work better. We'll see.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 04, 2015, 12:50:05 PM
I was at the carwash last year when the mirror fell of when the attendant was cleaning the inside windows, the moron glued it back on...... in the wrong spot! Luckily I was able to get it off and fix it right.
I bought the same kit at PartSource and it's still holding good.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 05, 2015, 10:11:09 AM

 In the instructions, they say not to try and remove the mounting tab if it's installed incorrectly. It could break the windsheild. It certainly didn't say that in the instructions in the other kit.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 06, 2015, 12:32:55 PM
Every so often I do a walkaround my Eldorado looking for door dings, paint chips, rust etc. I haven't found anything yet but this morning I noticed a piece
of red plastic missing from the top of the right tail light lens. Both lenses are cracked probably from age and exposure to the sun over the past 31 years
but now they are actually falling apart. Fortunately I have some spare lights and I put one on. Both of these have cracks as well but should be serviceable
for few more years. 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 06, 2015, 07:59:36 PM
I added 2 more cans of redtek to Chester including 1 can with oil additive. It still triggers the low pressure switch but not as often as before.   What do you say Kevin.  should it be able to go almost continuously without triggering the low pressure?  If so I'll keep adding.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 06, 2015, 10:23:17 PM

 What are the pressures?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 06, 2015, 11:19:09 PM
Mike's on the right track.  Compressor cycling frequency does not always reflect the state of charge since there are other factors that can affect this.  Pressure readings would indicate if the cycling switch calibration is reasonable; it should disengage the compressor in the 20-30 PSI range.   If the low side is reaching this pressure range too quickly, there's a chance not enough refrigerant is making it past the orifice tube (metering device).  This might be due to debris or in some cases, too much lubricant can cause transient obstruction.  The correct level of lubricant helps to balance CCOT systems.  The trouble is the 3 cans will go to waste if you need to pull the O-tube to inspect the screen and the condition/volume of lubricant, though there's a way to recover ~90% of the charge using an evacuated propane tank and lots of ice and time - works quicker on hot days.  With dry ice one could approach 99% recovery.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 07, 2015, 07:21:02 AM

 In your experimentation, and my tutelage, it seems the a cut out pressure, or better constant pressure on the low pressure side is in the 23-24 PSI range. when using hydrocarbon refrigerants. I have noted good performance and vent temperatures when this pressure can be maintained.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 07, 2015, 07:40:38 AM
That's roughly the pressure it cuts off at. I don't have a line set that includes a high side gauge. So  -uh-


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 07, 2015, 07:45:00 AM
If it was a clogged orifice, I wouldn't expect the clutch cycle time to increase with added charge since the stable pressure is staying at a 40psi range.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 07, 2015, 09:30:37 AM
 The next couple of days are going to be plenty warm. Check it again with the high ambient temps. It should maintain about 25 +/-. Too much refrigerant will effect performance negatively as well.

 Also, typically with R-12, the high side should be about double under hood temps. I'm sure there is a difference with HC refrigerants, but this rule of thumb should for the most part be the same.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 07, 2015, 10:41:06 AM
Low side pressures vary in response to condenser performance, compressor output, airflow across the evaporator, ambient temperature, etc. which means more than one observation needs to be considered before drawing any conclusions.  40-50 PSI might be a normal low side pressure after a hot soak while the engine is at 600 RPM, high fan, recirculate door open with a 100+ F interior temperature.    

The O-tube establishes an average mass flow rate based on the orifice diameter.  A CCOT system with a 0.062" orifice will result in higher compressor cycling frequency, which will decrease at higher refrigerant charges.  It's possible for a partially obstructed stock GM O-tube (0.072") to perform like a 0.050" O-tube; cooling at idle might be acceptable, but under higher loads or compressor speeds, there's not enough refrigerant flow to flood the evaporator and the capacity of the low side is compromised due to the higher average pressures from the cycling.

Is the accumulator surface ice cold while the system is under maximum load?  With the ambient temperature in the 70s, the compressor should not be cycling at idle (Climate Control set to 60 F), but should begin to cycle around 1400 RPM engine speed.

There are so many variables, the service manual procedures try to establish something resembling a steady-state condition in a sevice bay area, which may involve helper fans and lots of idling.  I prefer to set the Climate Control to the coldest setting and hit the highway at 60 MPH for at least 10 minutes; the RH centre air vent discharge temperature should average 41-43 F.   A fast response thermometer (or thermocouple) will show the lows and highs as the compressor cycles.  As the interior cools, the cycling frequency will increase in response to the reduced load since the recirculate door should remain open (80-90% interior air recirculated) at this setting.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 07, 2015, 11:02:20 AM
With non-azeotropic refrigerants (blends) like HCs, evaporation (and condensation) occurs over a range of temperatures which makes better use of the heat exchangers.  This means there's more temperature variation on the low side of the system.  The evaporator inlet area will be colder than normal, so systems that use a capillary tube strapped to this area may need to be adjusted to ensure the compressor 'On' time is adequate; it's normal (and desirable) to see frost around the inlet immediately after a highway run.  Even pressure-based cycling systems need some tweaking for best performance.  In both cases, there's an adjustment screw, and in the case of the capillary tube, the contact surface area and surrounding insulation can be adjusted too.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on May 07, 2015, 08:54:20 PM
 whoo/hoo

I did it - I got a new radio (Alpine) and a 12" subwoofer with amp.  Now my car looks like a granny car and sounds like a teenager's car   <looney>  The bass - oh my - the bass.   bow/down  And the new radio allows the highs to shine as well.  Money well spent as I feel like I have a brand new car.  Of course, I've lost about 25% of the trunk space, but I don't care.   nya/nya  I just had to let SOMEONE know - thanks for allowing me to share in a forum where everyone is car crazy.  =rofl=

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 07, 2015, 09:00:53 PM
 bananna'

We're a support group.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on May 07, 2015, 09:13:00 PM
bananna'

We're a support group.

A safe place to discuss our obsession and not annoy our spouses   <lol>

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 07, 2015, 10:22:54 PM

 Or annoy the spouses if you do choose!

 Great go Sam! I'll get to hear it soon I hope!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 08, 2015, 11:21:29 AM
bananna'

We're a support group.

So is a 6 pack. drink/o/beer

Great news Sam, can't wait to hear it.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on May 08, 2015, 02:15:17 PM
I think if you turn down your radio, you'll hear mine (from here!)   =rofl=

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 08, 2015, 06:59:09 PM
Three days in a row of taking Chester to work. Summer is here!
AC is functioning phenomenal, I'll leave it be for now.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 08, 2015, 10:28:31 PM

 Good to hear Jon. The AC in Victoria is working very well also. I have been driving her all week, and the last couple of days the AC comes on and gets cold within a minute. That's nice.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 10, 2015, 09:55:45 AM
Yesterday I dropped my Fleetwood off to get it's new vinyl roof put on.
 It should be done in a couple of weeks. Just in time to get it ready for the Cruise in.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 10, 2015, 10:13:45 AM
Fantastic!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 10, 2015, 03:20:19 PM
Without getting all technical how difficult is it to recharge the A/C ? How do I know what Freon to put in ?  I've never done that job before so I'm asking.
I used my Caliber today for the first time in a couple of weeks and the A/C is blowing warm air. I would have thought the A/C charge would have lasted
longer than 6 years. The car is an '09.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 10, 2015, 06:32:00 PM

 First of all, you need to know if it's a gross leak, or just a seepage. That needs to be checked into. If it's a seepage, then it can likeley be recharged. But if you have never done it before, you should have someone do it that knows what they are doing.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 10, 2015, 07:39:59 PM
OK,  you talked me into it I'll call TONY in the morning

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 10, 2015, 07:57:52 PM
Mike gave me a good rundown on how to make sure you're working with the low pressure side and demonstrated the how-to's at his place. If you're interested, you can get tony to show you what he's doing.
But with the 6 year old caliber, I'd be suspecting a bigger issue if it worked fine last year but nothing this spring.   None of my cars go from good to bad that quickly, I topped up Chester 2 years ago and it was still working this spring,  only not as string as it could be.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 11, 2015, 04:07:21 AM
The A/C worked OK last year, that's why I was surprised that it failed this year. I just hope it isn't anything serious to repair. That can get pricey.
When I got my Eldorado back in '06 the A/C compressor was Kaputski so Tony gave me a good one and I swapped them over. He charged it up and
it's been working fine since. It's still blows decent cold air although I think it could be a little bit colder.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 11, 2015, 09:50:39 AM
It's important to cover the basics before getting into repair estimates.  Does the compressor engage?  I would expect most cars to have some form of low refrigerant cut-out to protect the compressor, so if it does engage (observe the clutch at the drive pulley), chances are there's some refrigerant in the system.  This would rule-out a massive leak, such as impact damage at the condenser, which has become increasingly common on the light-weight, "high efficiency" units.  Some cars develop a condition where the rate of leakage only becomes significant during the winter months.  I suspect this is due to at least two factors: aluminium tubing shrinks in the cold and the flexible hoses lose some of their conformity; around -26 C, R-134a has a vapour pressure of close to zero which may reduce the effectiveness of certain slightly worn seals.  So it's possible the extreme cold this past winter might be a factor in the unexpected loss of refrigerant charge.  

BTW, there's no such thing as an automotive A/C system that doesn't leak.  All flexible lines leak, much like air leaks right through tires.  Depending on the total length of flexible lines, the rate could be as low as 16 oz per decade; this is more noticeable on newer cars, since the systems are designed to use less refrigerant, so total system capacities are in the 1-2 lb range, where the loss of a pound is much more significant than on a 3.5 lb system.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 12, 2015, 12:14:58 PM
This morning when I closed the trunk on the Concours it wouldn't pull down.
 I pulled the rear panel and had a look, it was covered in a lot of crud so I cleaned it up and sprayed some Krown on it to loosen everything up. I also cleaned some corrosion off the electrical connector.
Closed the trunk lid and voila! it went down, so I put everything back together and closed it again and it wouldn't pull down. head/ache
 After closing the lid about 20 times I realized that I had to put a bit of force on it to get it to pull down.
 I can't close it with one finger anymore. I guess I'll be looking for a replacement pull down motor the next time I'm at the wreckers.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 12, 2015, 01:00:00 PM
In the older pull-downs, contacting the striker triggered its retraction.  The later models use a switch on the lid side to detect this; it might be worth manually activating this switch a few times to assess the consistency.  Once the striker has retracted fully, and the lid-closed switch is not depressed, it'll begin to return to the open position.  The function of both switches can be evaluated in this manner.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 13, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
I tried pushing the striker with a screwdriver but noting happened. When I close the lid (almost slamming it) then it goes down. I can't find anything in the shop manual about servicing it.
 I'll have to do some homework on the internet to see if there is anything I can do.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 13, 2015, 01:44:17 PM
You need to focus on the switch at the latch, on the lid side.  It rotates once the striker is present.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on May 14, 2015, 06:44:10 PM
Sorry to change the subject, but I saw, in passing, yesterday, a Roadmaster in what I think was new condition. he was going the other direction or I would have chased him down. It was white with the vinyl pictures of wood and the chrome looked better than I ever remember it being.

Second thing, I am thinking of buying a newer Cadillac. Late 70's vintage. Something to play with. What should I focus on? What is the best engine, body, interior to restore as new?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 14, 2015, 08:08:26 PM
JOE;

Tony has a '77 Sedan deville you might be interested in. I don't know much about it but it appears to be in decent shape. Tony says it would
probably go for about $1500. It's an odd colour. It would have to buffed up to see what it is but it is original paint.

Have you registered for the West Highland Church Father's day cruise yet ? That's the big church on Garth with the free breakfast and lunch
for registered owners.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 14, 2015, 10:23:08 PM

 1977 is a good year. Bulletproof 425/THM400 combo. But they can be rather bland in basic form. Add the d'Elegance package and some choice options and they are very nice.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 15, 2015, 05:01:20 AM
This is not a d'Elegance. Someone brought it to Tony for some work last fall and it's been there ever since.
As far as the colour goes I have no idea what it was. It's badly faded and hard to tell but a good buffing job would bring it up.
The vinyl top is fine but needs recolouring. The paint colour is a reddish, orange something. I've seen it on other cars but don't know the name.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on May 15, 2015, 01:10:49 PM
Sounds like maybe a good car to bling up a bit :) Not particularly rare and less of the original options to have break down :)

I should go check it out. Where is Tony's garage?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 15, 2015, 03:13:17 PM
Rudy's Auto Service  75 Earl st.
It's at the foot of Earl St, off Barton East, 2 streets east of Birch Ave. If you can get there now before 5 or so you can talk to Tony. If not he will leave
it parked in the laneway to his shop.
What he told me about it is it has new front rotors and brakes, a tune up with new wires etc and fairly new tires. It has it's issues but the price is right.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 15, 2015, 03:37:55 PM

 Get pictures!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on May 16, 2015, 10:36:03 AM
Here she is... the photos are hosted on my webserver...

Sorry no thumbnails

ceretti.com/1977 (http://ceretti.com/1977)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 16, 2015, 10:55:46 AM

 I got through a bunch of the pics. But I have to run out the door now. It certainly looks like a project car.

 I didn't see a couple of things, the A- pillars and the rear torque boxes on the frame. They are notorious areas for sever and costly rust.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 16, 2015, 11:00:13 AM
That's the closest look I've ever had of the car. The body needs work, the top is OK, just needs some colour and the interior (excluding the dash) is decent.
I think for a $1000 or $1200 you'd have a good project car here but see Tony next week. He does want it gone. It's been in the way for too long.
If it's drivable I'll help you get it home.
I still don't know what colour it is.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: HavanaJoe on May 16, 2015, 12:59:18 PM
It's not a bad car but it may be just too much for me. I'll have to give it some more thought and a look at it on a hoist as well as a test drive will tell a lot. As for colour... I'd call it brown. It wouldn't stay that colour long if it was mine. Yuck


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 17, 2015, 10:22:39 AM
I'm still having problems with my trunk pull down so yesterday I pulled it out and took it apart to try and figure out what was wrong. After removing it I pulled the lid down enough to contact the lid mechanism and it went down.
 I thought that it might need to be adjusted to a higher position but that isn't possible. There seems to be a lot of wear on the part the the latch grabs and I noticed that the switch goes in the down position but will not go up when the trunk is opened. I put it back together thinking that it was fubared.
 When I closed the lid it went down, but after opening the trunk it would not go down again.
I to a thick wire and pulled the switch up and the trunk lid pulled down.
So it's working...... sort of.
Here's a pic showing the switch that wont go in the up position.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 17, 2015, 05:59:11 PM
Washed and waxed Chester, Rocky, and Peach. I feel  wheel/chair


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 17, 2015, 07:56:48 PM
It looks like the latch is designed to move that switch to the 'up' position once it's in the fully extended position.  Since it's not reaching there, it could be the lid open switch is not completing the circuit, either due to burned contacts or dirt.  You should be able to dismantle the switch and inspect/clean the contact for more reliable operation.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 18, 2015, 08:50:13 AM
I tried to pull that small switch to the up position yesterday when I was at Canadian Tire and it broke right off.
  I'm not going to even bother with it any more. Tomorrow after work I'm heading out to Cambridge Auto wreckers to get another one. I'm finding them all over E bay for about $100 so if I pull it myself it should be cheap.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 18, 2015, 10:24:06 AM

 Kevin and his dad popped by for a visit here yesterday. We had a nice visit, and it's always great to see them!

 I have some goodies in the trunk for you, Gareth.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 19, 2015, 12:48:28 PM
Wish I was there, and I can't wait to see what you have for me.

This morning after work I went to Cambridge Auto wreckers and found a pull down motor in a 99 DeVille.
 It looked brand new so I grabbed it. They charged me $20.
Put it in the car and nothing. Then I noticed that one of the wires pulled out of the pigtail. Good thing I cut the whole harness when I get stuff like that, so off to Princess Auto to get some wire connectors.
 Hooked it all up and nothing. Checked the fuse and it was burned. I must have touched a couple of wires when I was stripping them. Put in a new fuse and..............nothing.
 I'm really getting frustrated now. I might just get it in the down position and unplug it. head/ache
I have no idea what to check now.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 19, 2015, 03:17:50 PM

 We'll have a look in the manual and see if I can get a handle on it.

 What other Cadillacs did they have out there?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 20, 2015, 09:16:22 AM
It sounds like you need to use a test lamp or multimeter and start with the basics as outlined in the manual.  Did you check the new fuse after the replacement motor was connected? 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 20, 2015, 11:58:48 AM

 We'll have a look in the manual and see if I can get a handle on it.

 What other Cadillacs did they have out there?


Sounds good, you should be able to figure it out in your sleep.

They had a lot of DeVilles and STS's. I am going to have to go back and see if there is anything I can use.
 I'm sure I can get a good set of tail lights.



Did you check the new fuse after the replacement motor was connected? 

Yup, it's good.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 20, 2015, 12:09:31 PM
How about transplanting just the switch assembly from the replacement unit over to the original?  It's possible the motor is seized from exposure to the elements...  but first you need to confirm power and ground using a test lamp or multimeter.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 20, 2015, 01:35:32 PM

 I'll get you to pop by. You can pick up this stuff as well that Kevin left for you. Tomorrow work?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 20, 2015, 01:48:06 PM
Sure, about 10:30?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 20, 2015, 04:07:47 PM

 I'm looking more like early afternoon. I have some things I have to do tomorrow morning.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 21, 2015, 10:38:46 AM
Well I went and had another crack at the pull down motor yesterday.
 On the outside it looked mint but as Kevin said the motor might be seized and it was.
The switch was buggered and the screw that raises/lowers was seized in the up position, so I took both units apart and mixed what appeared to be the good parts together and now it works like new.

Now that I got that problem fixed I was wondering what needed to be fixed next.
 Just as I pulled into work this morning I had my answer. The driver information started flashing "Battery No Charge"
I had enough juice to get it home after work and put it on the battery charger. The current charge is low and the diagnostics were 11.3 volts. Looks like I need a new alternator I knew that the voltage regulator was going so I called Part Source and ordered a new one. It will be here tomorrow about 1:30 PM.
 I'll have to pull the manual out to see the best way to get the old one out, it's buried in there good.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 21, 2015, 02:25:41 PM
As long as you keep on top of things you can keep it in control.
The list is never ending.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 21, 2015, 09:43:51 PM
On page 8A-30-9 of the '96 FSM, there's a troubleshooting tree.  The first step is to see which DTCs are stored by the IPC and PCM.  As for replacement, it goes in and out from below after an access panel is unbolted.  The tight squeeze past the radiator core is well documented on the Net - a thin piece of dense cardboard may help prevent damage.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 23, 2015, 09:28:42 AM
I looked through the manual and spent some time on you tube watching videos.
 Looks like it's going to take me about 4 hours. I called my local shop and they told me it was a 2 hour job. *yikes*
Looking at it from above and from watching videos it looks like the radiator needs to come out to get access to the bolts. I can't seem to figure out how to get the serpentine belt off -uh- Do I need a special tool?
 This is a lot of work for an alternator, you would have thought that the engineers would have thought that it should be an easy access part -yes- [url=http://www.freesmileys.or

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 23, 2015, 10:27:36 AM
The radiator can stay put.  From memory, all the mounting bolts come out from underneath or can be reached from the battery area.  A regular 1/2" drive can be used to unload the tensioner, then carefully pick it off the power steering pulley and suspend (optionally) with a bungee cord so it doesn't fall off the crank pulley.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 23, 2015, 11:12:04 AM

 I looked in at it when I was over the other day. It is very tight. I suggested removing the battery and the right side cooling fan.

 No matter how you look at it, it's not a simple job. And I can recite a few alternator Re and Re's that are more difficult than this one too.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 23, 2015, 11:49:28 AM
Forgot about the RH cooling fan - that's a popular recommendation.  IIRC, it doesn't need to be removed, just unbolted at the top and repositioned to the left (driver's side) a bit.  I think the FSM indicates both need to be removed, but this is not a requirement.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 24, 2015, 07:47:44 AM
Well, after 4 hours work I got the old one out and that access hole isn't as big as it needs to be. It took several attempts to wiggle it out.
  The bolt with a double nut on it (negative battery cable) came out as one so I need a new battery cable now and I still can't get the nut off. I put it in a vice and it still won't budge. I soaked it in Krown and if it doesn't come off today then I'll go to Brafasco tomorrow and get a new one.
 When I got to the alternator I noticed a large wiring harness with 3 plugs coming from the back of the alternator that weren't plugged into anything? -uh- Heated windshield perhaps?
 Now I just have to put everything back together, I hope re assembly goes much quicker.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 24, 2015, 08:13:47 AM

 Yes, likely a heated windshield. Those were special alternators and very expensive, if they are available anymore. I didn't realise that option went as far as 1996.

 I drove by yesterday and saw you working away.... I was wondering how it went.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 24, 2015, 08:16:36 AM
They asked me if it had a heated windshield when I was at the parts store. They said they would ging me $10 core charge. I think I'll keep it if it's a special alternator. Maybe it can be rebuilt easily.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 24, 2015, 08:18:00 AM
I put it in a vice and it still won't budge. I soaked it in Krown and if it doesn't come off today then I'll go to Brafasco tomorrow and get a new one.

GJ

Heat, heat, and more heat.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 24, 2015, 09:28:11 AM
Old cars are a joy to own aren't they.  :laugh:

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 24, 2015, 09:43:27 AM
The heated windshield option was discontinued during the 1996 model year and only a handful were so-equipped; I would guess that alternator is from a '94 or '95.  Both alternators are functionally equivalent except for the direct AC output harness to the windshield module.  There might be some internal upgrades to deal with the higher peak loads.  My aunt's 1991 has this option and is still on the original alternator!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 24, 2015, 10:39:13 AM

 The leads basically went right into the rectifier assembly. I think the windshield was fed AC voltage.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 24, 2015, 01:48:50 PM
I put it in a vice and it still won't budge. I soaked it in Krown and if it doesn't come off today then I'll go to Brafasco tomorrow and get a new one.

GJ

Heat, heat, and more heat.

I tried using a propane torch until the insulation started melting off the wire and the vice grips got too hot to hold, but it still wouldn't budge. I ended up going to Car Quest and getting a new negative harness and wired it to another bolt. It's all back together now and running without any problems. (cross fingers)
 I didn't even have any left over parts.
Total time..... 6 hours. The worst alternator job I've ever done, I hope I never have to do it again.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 24, 2015, 03:07:41 PM

 Good go! I drove past and saw the car gone. I figgered all was well.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 24, 2015, 09:44:10 PM
With the 94 getting it's top done,  it wasn't poor timing.  But at least it meant you got it done ASAP and didn't let it fester.
I'm a little annoyed that I don't have a voltage gauge on Chester or Rocky since both could be needing an alternator at any time. I suppose I could replace them as preventative maintenance,  but we'll see if that happens.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 25, 2015, 11:14:38 AM
And it will take a whole 10 minutes to replace an alternator on those cars.


GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 25, 2015, 03:13:22 PM

 Yep, they are easy!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 25, 2015, 03:20:57 PM
But you won't get a chance to finish your beer.  :D


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on May 25, 2015, 03:37:57 PM

 There is plenty of time to relax and enjoy Afterwards....

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on May 25, 2015, 05:44:25 PM
Got the oil changed on the 06 DTS today.  She's got just over 141,000 km. (approaching 100,000 miles)  Is there anything special I should be watching out for?  Mechanic checked brakes, etc. and pronounced her fit to drive  :)  Underside was sprayed by Cadillac when I bought her and looks good - converter looks a bit rusty though.

Any advise?

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 25, 2015, 05:48:54 PM
When last was the coolant drained and refilled?  Depending on the build date, it may be due for its second cooling system service towards the end of this summer. 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on May 25, 2015, 05:53:21 PM
When last was the coolant drained and refilled?  Depending on the build date, it may be due for its second cooling system service towards the end of this summer. 

Darn good question....where's my file.... -scratch/

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on May 26, 2015, 03:44:11 AM
Sam, If you're not sure then just do it then record it in your owner's manual. When I got my Eldorado back in '06 I had ALL the fluids replaced and the
coolant has been done twice since then, the latest was last year.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 27, 2015, 10:47:26 AM
I bought my Fleetwood in Sept 08 and I've changed the coolant 4 times already.
 I have to change the coolant on the Concours soon.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 27, 2015, 10:49:43 AM
I took a trip up to Goderich yesterday to pick up my Fleetwood.
 The new vinyl top is on and looks great!
Now I need to get the new trunk lid on and get some paint work done.
 I'm also looking for a new rear bumper. If anyone knows of a good one let me know.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Young One on May 28, 2015, 06:45:36 PM
This didn't happen today but on the may 24 weekend coming back from Wiarton she started burning in mount forest. luckily a friend of mine lived 5 minutes from ware it happened so i limped it to his place and cut the belt so i could get home... i didn't realize that the belt was attached to the power steering (not paying attention and just wanted to get home) so getting home was a work out especially at the round about in Elmira... now i am out of money so the 82 is parked until the funds increase unless i can find a belt that just does the power steering but so far no luck.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on May 28, 2015, 09:31:26 PM
My '81 had one of the rat's nest of belts break 2 summers ago - and it (they?) took out all the rest of the belts - and the a/c.  I know it's hard to believe, but you got lucky with only 1 belt lost.

and,just for grins:

lack of power steering on these boats is known as "arm strong" steering.  Yup, been there, done that   =rofl=  got applause from the other people at the show watching me.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on May 29, 2015, 11:13:05 AM
Is that the same belt that drives the A.I.R. pump? or did the compressor pack in?
 I had a problem with it back in January but it was because the pump froze.
I left all the paperwork in the glove box, there is a Mufflerman folder with all the belt numbers, but you can get them right off the belt as they are new.

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on May 29, 2015, 12:39:28 PM
With they ignition off, does the A/C pulley spin freely?  I'm wondering if it's seized internally and just locks the pulley while the clutch is engaged...  It looks like the HT4100 differs from the earlier Cadillac V8s in that the A/C compressor acts as the adjuster, which means it might be a struggle to jump a belt onto the power steering pulley and not have it slip.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on May 29, 2015, 04:43:52 PM
The only way you would be able to run just the power steering pump without the compressor would be to find the perfect sized pulley, take the pulley off the shaft and try to stretch it and install the pulley/belt at the same time. 
If you need to take the power steering pump off (or the pulley) you'll need a special tool that you can borrow from PartSource. The tool will allow you to take the pulley off of the pump shaft.

Might try to use car-part.com to find a compressor at the wreckers. 


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 01, 2015, 01:41:20 PM

 Is it the compressor that seized? let me know and I may have one around here that would get you going again.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 04, 2015, 03:24:13 PM
Today I did Tony a favour. There is a chance he may bring his '77 Fleetwood Brougham on Saturday. If the weather is iffy he won't bring the 76 Eldorado
convertible and he'll use the '77 instead. Somebody installed a cheap set of rear fender extensions and botched their paint job. The paint was peeling off
and showing white fiberglass and paint runs. Tony didn't like they the car looked so I masked, cleaned and sandedthem  to try and clean them up a bit
then primed and repainted them. I used a can of CTC paint "Dark Blue Sapphire Metallic" a GM colour. It's a bit lighter than the original but looks so much
better now.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 04, 2015, 05:06:51 PM

 Great! And I bet Tony feels so much better about it too.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 04, 2015, 07:07:38 PM
This is a really nice car. He got from an old guy somewhere a couple of years ago. It's dark blue with a velour interior. Apparently it's only got about
25,000 miles on it. I think he said the car was mostly kept outside so it could use some small surface rust repairs and a paint job. The chrome is in
beautiful condition.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 04, 2015, 10:22:57 PM

 Nice. Does it have the foot rests in the rear?

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 05, 2015, 03:44:33 AM
Sorry, I don't know.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on June 05, 2015, 07:12:43 AM
When last was the coolant drained and refilled?  Depending on the build date, it may be due for its second cooling system service towards the end of this summer. 

Darn good question....where's my file.... -scratch/

Sam

Sorry to take so long to follow up - found the file and the flush was done October 2014, so I'm good to go.   $sun$

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 07, 2015, 05:30:55 PM
 Even though I wasn't part of the show this year I did have a great day today. This morning Maureen and I went to get Lucille out of storage. It took some cranking, but she fired up and ran great. The trip home was uneventful, just stopping to put in some fresh gas. Then to the car wash to give her a bath and wash off 3 years worth of dirt.

 When I got home I replaced the leaking power steering hose, and Maureen cleaned up the mold that seemed to cover every surface area of the interior. Then off we went to visit my oldest daughter in her new apartment. The car is running great. Pretty unbelievable since it sat for so long.

 We had a good day with Lucille. Good to have her back home.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on June 08, 2015, 08:05:12 PM
What....  no pictures from after it was cleaned?  :poke:


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 09, 2015, 07:14:32 AM

 How about this.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on June 09, 2015, 10:19:44 AM
Big car...


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: RONNIE on June 19, 2015, 02:45:31 PM
I masked and recoloured the body side mouldings on my car today.
Back in '08-'09 when my car was painted, the factory body side moulding was removed to prep the car for paint. The moulding should have been replaced
before the car was painted because it's supposed to be body colour. This wasn't done and I had to put the moulding on afterwards. Naturally the moulding
I put on was a different colour than the paint so I had to mix up some vinyl dye to match. Over the years the sun and weather badly faded the color so I
refinished it this afternoon. I got one coat on and will do another next week then clear coat it.

RON


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on June 28, 2015, 03:27:28 PM
Does yesterday count?

I put on a new fuel pump and all of the lines and put new seals and plungers in the washer pump.

Today I went out for a ride. 20-100+ without a blink of hesitation or fuel starvation. It had to be the Deathanol fuel that destroyed the entire fuel system. I now have non-Deathanol fuel in it. What a difference?  *yikes*


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 28, 2015, 04:07:28 PM

 Yesterday is cool. A sweet running 500 is sweet indeed.

 Yeah, that deathanol is horrible. I seek out Shell products especially with my small engines.

 I try to use Ultra 94 as much as I can find it for the '70. It seems to work the best, but I have to look into it again for alcohol content. I bought some top end cleaner (formerly called Cleens) to put through the engine when I'm not in a populated area. Clean out any carbon deposits that may have accumulated since that last time I did it.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on June 28, 2015, 04:21:28 PM
I'm a fan of trickling water through the carb. That brings a shine to the piston tops. We used to blend tranny fluid and water together. Run it up to about 2500 and start the treatment. No skeeters for 100 miles.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on June 28, 2015, 04:26:14 PM

 Water is an old trick that does work. I should do it more often. But I live in an area where folk wouldn't appreciate it too much. We're heading to the cabin next weekend. Good opportunity to do it there. Especially Sunday afternoon when folk have gone home.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on June 28, 2015, 05:03:19 PM
 -yes-


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on June 29, 2015, 11:46:36 AM
I put a bottle of Red Tec in the Fleetwood today, the A/C is as cold as a meat locker now. /brrr/

GJ


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on June 29, 2015, 10:45:53 PM
Off on vacation for a few days away from the Internet. And I'm also working towards wrapping up the last of my stuff with the university in August, so I'm in student-by-night, worker-by-day mode.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 01, 2015, 07:52:42 AM

 I replaced the alternator belt and positive battery clamp on Lucille. Then did a complete inspection and performance check on the ALC. To which end I found it was performing well. Even though the rear seems to be sitting a bit lower than I would like it to. I adjusted it up as par as I could.

 Fins, for your information, the pressure in the compressor tank pushed my tire gauge right off the end of the scale at 120 psi.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on July 01, 2015, 05:02:24 PM
I finally got Cali Dreamer back yesterday.  She's bright and shiny and perfect.  sigh.  Can't wait to take her to Plunkett for tomorrow night's weekly cruise-in.

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 01, 2015, 06:03:12 PM

 I'm still looking forward to seeing her.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 01, 2015, 07:27:56 PM

 We went for a nice drive today in Lucille. Went for lunch at Borealis, then to Wellington Brewery in Guelph and scored some really nice beers. Stopped in at the Kissing Bridge in West Montrose then home.

 But that speedo is still squealing. I tried to pull the cable out from underneath, but it won't come out that way either. I need to lubricate it before it drives me nuts!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: 57chevyowner on July 01, 2015, 08:06:45 PM
Regular thursday night Plunkett show tomorrow if you can get away   $sun$

Sam


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 01, 2015, 08:40:08 PM

 Too bad. I'm working. I wonder if I'll ever get to that one. It's generally too far a drive for just an evening.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on July 02, 2015, 05:25:26 AM
I ordered up a new Cloyes timing set from MTS. When I replaced the fuel pump over the weekend, I peered in the hole to see the cam gear all cracked and dark looking. It's not coming apart yet, but I want to catch it before it does. Otherwise, it's no easy task to pull that oil pan to clean it out.

I just love these all day jobs bent over the long front end. NOT!!!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 02, 2015, 07:25:30 AM

 I've been debating on doing the same with mine. 45 years old now. Mind you it's an easier job than on the Eldo, but It's not something I look forward to. Especially with that grill poking little holes in me.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 02, 2015, 07:32:26 AM
For such a big job, would it be worth pulling the grill?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 02, 2015, 10:00:08 AM

 Probably would. It's not that difficult to remove.
 
 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on July 02, 2015, 10:40:12 AM
I just heard that the HVAC blower fan in the 1991 STS stays running with the ignition off.  Looks like I'll have to unplug the blower to avoid draining the battery.  Hopefully a replacement power module will be easier to find than the older RWD units!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 02, 2015, 10:50:19 AM

 I had the same issue with my '88 Eldorado. The module fixed it. These are much easier to find, they are used on all contemporay E-cars along with the C/H-cars. There should be plenty of them in the wreckers.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on July 02, 2015, 11:07:39 AM

 I've been debating on doing the same with mine. 45 years old now. Mind you it's an easier job than on the Eldo, but It's not something I look forward to. Especially with that grill poking little holes in me.

 Mike

Try doing a '69! The tops of those grills are even pointier. I have a thick moving pad that I lay over all of the front ends, because the hood catches on some models are like pokers in the belly when you have to reach down deep to put the balancer and lower pulley back on.

What makes the Eldorado so hard Mike? As I understand it, you just drive the alignment dowel pins in flush with the face of the block to make the front cover easier to remove. When reinstalling, replace the crankshaft oil seal after the cover is in place to avoid damaging it. Dropping the pan is out of the question. That means disconnecting the drive axles and jacking the engine up out of the cradle. Before I do that, I'll wait until is simply comes apart.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on July 02, 2015, 11:10:28 AM
I see ACDelco 15-72530 works on many 1986-93 C/E/H/K/V cars.  As usual, Canadians get short-changed: Amazon.ca lists it for $258.78 including shipping, and Amazon.com has it for US$99.50 (free US shipping), which is easily over $100 less after factoring in the exchange rate and HST.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on July 02, 2015, 11:30:40 AM
What if it's shipped to a US address and then shipped to you, person to person instead of corporation to person? Are you still beat to death with taxes and fees?


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on July 02, 2015, 01:13:18 PM
Aside from higher cross-border shipping, the extra costs are about the same - Duty would only apply to products not made in North America, and the HST is 13% on the declared value, if they choose to believe it.  The method of shipping across the border is a factor in that some will charge a substantial brokerage fee, for paying the HST/Duty on your behalf and collecting it from you at delivery; USPS is the most reasonable in this respect.  Some sellers avoid cross-border shipments due to the extra paperwork involved.  Another option (that I haven't tried yet) would be to use a parcel holding service near a convenient border crossing.  RockAuto has the cross-border shipping pretty well worked out where they deal with the HST/Duty so there aren't any surprise brokerage fees upon delivery.  Since this module was fairly common a couple decades ago, I'm going to see what's available around here.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 02, 2015, 03:37:28 PM

 Just scour the wreckers. They can be had on the cheap. Grab several since the yards are still full of 90's C-cars. And they are far more reliable than the units in the E/K cars to '85.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on July 02, 2015, 04:34:52 PM
Just got back from Standard Auto Wreckers - There were no exact donors (according to the parts listing), but I found a similar module from a 1992 LeSabre.  The connectors are the same, but it's missing a terminal, so I'll have to compare circuit diagrams and see if it can be made to work.  

On the Cadillac front, there was a 2001 STS, 1997 Eldorado, and a very solid 1981 Fleetwood Brougham (rear bumper and fender extensions already taken).  The latter had a rusty, '60s 300SEL sitting on top, and I briefly examined its air springs and strange front suspension arrangement.  The tiny control arms and springs are integrated with the front crossmember, which is mounted to the underside of the unibody rails via 2 small mounts; the only other 2 attachments are short, trailing arms secured to the forward-most part of the unibody rails, where the stabilizer bar is mounted.  It would seem there'd be a lot of unwanted movement/resonance of this crossmember assembly, especially after the mounts wear, and the overall design is the polar opposite of what is needed for steering precision.  A contemporary GM design is more consistent with the modern approach of locating rigidly, in a lateral sense, the steering components and lower ball joints relative to the chassis.  Such a design compromise may have been necessary to achieve acceptable isolation qualities, as unibody and mounting system technology was in the early stages.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 02, 2015, 04:51:50 PM
Ever since I got Chester, the chrome trim pieces on the interior of the rear doors were broken off.  I got a set of new ones a while back and I finally got to installing them today. The picture below is a sample of the way it was before, the last two pictures are the end result.

I also replaced the radio bezel with one that has the wood around the radio knobs (sorry, forgot to take a pic). The chrome isn't as nice as I'd like it and there's a Radio Shack cell phone clip on there.
I do have a good light blue bezel with good chrome and the wood,  but I think I need Ronnie's help getting it to the tan colour that my car needs.
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj580/j2rossit/Chester/DSC04122.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/j2rossit/media/Chester/DSC04122.jpg.html)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 02, 2015, 05:05:59 PM
 They're a nice cast and chromed piece on these cars. One little thing to make the car just a bit nicer!  -yes-

The latter had a rusty, '60s 300SEL sitting on top, and I briefly examined its air springs and strange front suspension arrangement.  The tiny control arms and springs are integrated with the front crossmember, which is mounted to the underside of the unibody rails via 2 small mounts; the only other 2 attachments are short, trailing arms secured to the forward-most part of the unibody rails, where the stabilizer bar is mounted.  It would seem there'd be a lot of unwanted movement/resonance of this crossmember assembly, especially after the mounts wear, and the overall design is the polar opposite of what is needed for steering precision.  A contemporary GM design is more consistent with the modern approach of locating rigidly, in a lateral sense, the steering components and lower ball joints relative to the chassis.  Such a design compromise may have been necessary to achieve acceptable isolation qualities, as unibody and mounting system technology was in the early stages.

 They certainly did march to a different drummer. However unit construction was becoming quite commonplace in the US by 1960. Nash having been that way for many years, there was the new wave of compacts all with unit construction and Chrysler switching all it's cars, except the Imperial, to unit construction for 1960. Then the Lincoln/Thunderbird was that way since 1958. They all handled the lack of isolation in different manners. But for the most part they stuck with conventional suspension set ups.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on July 02, 2015, 05:10:38 PM
The '81 FB at SAW has a similar/same colour interior, but with leather.  Unfortunately, I didn't look past the steering wheel, arm rests (LF cracked) and driver's seat, which looked pretty decent, so I don't know if the IP centre is intact.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on July 03, 2015, 09:51:28 AM
The 1992 LeSabre Limited blower module is compatible with the 1991 STS!  I was concerned because numerous photos show the '86-'91 (roughly, 1st generation of the 2 connector style) module has 6 electrical terminals (2 for C1 and 4 for C2), while the '92-'96 (2nd generation, 2 connector) only has 4 (one blank on each connector).  It turns out the original STS part has all 6, but only 4 are used, the same 4 as in the 2nd generation part.  The only difference in the wiring harness is the Cadillac uses 12 GA wire for the blower circuit, while the Buick gets by with 14 GA.  The newer design is about 40% longer due to the larger cast aluminum heat sink.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 03, 2015, 10:44:55 AM

 Perfect!

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on July 03, 2015, 04:09:50 PM
What if it's shipped to a US address and then shipped to you, person to person instead of corporation to person? Are you still beat to death with taxes and fees?

I just thought that if shipped to a US address from a US shipper you may be able to save a bundle.

Hey, I tried, right?   -uh-


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 03, 2015, 04:11:45 PM

 Many folk here maintain US mailboxes just for that reason. Save a bundle on the cross border BS.

 Mikr


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on July 03, 2015, 04:15:13 PM
So...Mike...whaddayathink. The chain and gear can come out of an Eldorado engine without moving it? It can't be different from a RWD car. A 500 is a 500, FWD or RWD.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on July 03, 2015, 04:25:11 PM
Okay, everyone sit down, grab your favorite adult beverage and get ready have a laugh on me.   bang/head <doh!>

So, I get the car up on jack stands as high as it will go. I'm aiming at replacing the rear coil springs. I disconnect everything that the FSM says too and the rear is hanging on it's own weight. This means the rear brake flex hose and the ALC leveling control arm along with the the two shocks. I tilt it up on one side to make the opposite side lower, thinking the spring will get looser. No go there.
I apply my 'homemade' spring compressor. Yeah, right, sure, that'll work. Long story short, it didn't get done. I need a real coil spring compressor to do the job not only right, but safely.

The only thing that really got done was a flush of the rear calipers and lines.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on July 03, 2015, 04:37:32 PM

 Many folk here maintain US mailboxes just for that reason. Save a bundle on the cross border BS.


Has anyone tried Kinek?  I stumbled upon this service a couple years ago while considering the purchase of some wheels/tires, but haven't had the occasion to try it out.

https://www.kinek.com/

Fins, thanks for the offer, but I feel it's too much of a burden to have anyone re-ship anything across the border (paperwork, time, etc.), and it might become even more of an imposition if parts are defective or missing.  If I'm planning a road trip, I might ship stuff to the destination ahead of time.

As for replacing the timing set - I've read it's more difficult on the longitudinal V8 FWD cars due to the position of a mount.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 03, 2015, 04:42:09 PM
So...Mike...whaddayathink. The chain and gear can come out of an Eldorado engine without moving it? It can't be different from a RWD car. A 500 is a 500, FWD or RWD.

 The engine itself is identical to a RWD car, the difference is the front engine support and it's proximity to the rad. You may have to support the engine and remove the support to remove the timing cover. But yes, you can replace the timing gears and chain without removing the engine.

 I'm thinking you should pull the rad as well. Those crank snouts are really on there and you need a good puller, and room to do it.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 03, 2015, 04:45:11 PM
Okay, everyone sit down, grab your favorite adult beverage and get ready have a laugh on me.   bang/head <doh!>

So, I get the car up on jack stands as high as it will go. I'm aiming at replacing the rear coil springs. I disconnect everything that the FSM says too and the rear is hanging on it's own weight. This means the rear brake flex hose and the ALC leveling control arm along with the the two shocks. I tilt it up on one side to make the opposite side lower, thinking the spring will get looser. No go there.
I apply my 'homemade' spring compressor. Yeah, right, sure, that'll work. Long story short, it didn't get done. I need a real coil spring compressor to do the job not only right, but safely.

The only thing that really got done was a flush of the rear calipers and lines.

 Those springs are quite long. They are a bear to get out.... I can't remember replacing them on an Eldorado, but I do remember replacing them on RWD cars and had to pry them out. Very carefully, of coarse.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on July 03, 2015, 06:41:35 PM
Oh yes. The radiator is a definite removal. One slip and you're out $400. But I'll have to get under there and really study that mount placement.

I was just about 1 1/2" short of getting it off of it's perch, but then it dawned on me that I would still need to compress the new ones from 19" to 15" to make them go in. Button it up and make a drink. 2 1/2 hours of valuable time wasted. bonk}


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on July 03, 2015, 07:51:00 PM
That was easy Fins , had my beer at my side already " PBR ".

" Okay, everyone sit down, grab your favorite adult beverage and get ready have a laugh on me. "

I didn't laugh, you have to try harder than that.

When a Redneck says " hold my beer watch this " then you've got my attention and I'm ready for a real laugh ( or a real disaster ).

CDV  drink/o/beer





Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on July 04, 2015, 05:28:56 AM
Yeah, but I figgered it would be good for a laugh to know that I took the whole rear end apart to not accomplish whet I set out to do in the first place. But I wasn't out to get hurt either. One wrong move and those coils could take an arm, hand or a few fingers with them.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on July 04, 2015, 06:21:16 AM
I would think you have the FSM, that would show you the procedure ?

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on July 04, 2015, 08:34:01 AM
It does. I need to look again, but I'm not sure that it mentions a spring compressor. It says after the brake line, the ALC arm and the shocks are disconnected that the rear axle will hang free and the springs could be removed. I'm pretty sure that if I undid one control arm at a time, I could have dropped lower, but I was starting to run out of sunlight.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on July 04, 2015, 08:59:24 AM
A big job, I had the front end rebuilt on my 66 CDV and my 66 Vette, new coil springs too.

Rear end on my Vette they bent the wheel adjustment rods ? to align it.

They got replaced and I had my garage install a new 1980 style fiberglass leaf spring, it rode nice and smooth with BF Goodrich comp TA tires. Bilstein shocks too.

I'm tired of crawling around on my driveway and DIY repairs. Mechanics got to eat too as long as you can find a competent garage.

Like your new tires, you have to give them specific instructions and supervise them with the old cars.

I sent my van to the garage for new tranny cooler lines. Gave him a list : dump the tranny fluid, rear axle gear oil and add the LSD additive, change the oil and filter , front end lube, replace the rubber hoses on my aftermarket tranny cooler.

Gave him my oil and fuel filter, told him to charge me extra for owner parts, he said no prob.

$ 500 with a tow job, didn't charge me for the synthetic oil , stopped by and gave him a $ 20. He declined once, the second time I would have stuffed it in his pocket.

Next project is lower control bushings when I have the spare $$$. The roads in my town are a horror, I drive 25 on a 45 mph road, idiots with their new rides hate it !

CDV



Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on July 04, 2015, 07:29:06 PM
The '81 FB at SAW has a similar/same colour interior, but with leather.  Unfortunately, I didn't look past the steering wheel, arm rests (LF cracked) and driver's seat, which looked pretty decent, so I don't know if the IP centre is intact.

I went back to SAW to look for a B-car radiator (28.5" core) and saw that someone had ripped out the IP centre's vinyl section; they probably didn't know how to remove it, or didn't care.  It's intact except for a cracked plastic substrate (from pulling it away by force), which won't matter if you find a way to bond it to the underlying section.  Jon, it's yours if the colour matches!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 05, 2015, 08:31:31 PM
That could very well be it!  Is it tan?  Hard to tell from the pics.   
I've been meaning to call you up and do a mid day lunch rendezvous.  I might be able to do something later this week.

I put the balancing beads in Chester.  I haven't really had a change to try out how well they work (Sundays tend to jam up the 401 with the cottagers returning home) so I'll take Chester to work later this week.
I also put on a set of wheel covers that I got from a friend in Florida (Geoff to those who know him). They are identical to the ones I had on before, only they also include the wreath around the crest which Chester should have being a Fleetwood.   The ones I had on before came from a Deville.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on July 05, 2015, 08:58:03 PM
That could very well be it!  Is it tan?  Hard to tell from the pics.   
I've been meaning to call you up and do a mid day lunch rendezvous.  I might be able to do something later this week.

The door panels on the SAW '81 FB may be close in colour to the pictures you posted; the instrument panel and steering wheel are darker, more of a mid-brown in my view.  If yours doesn't have this sort of interior colour contrast, it might be too dark, though it might be a more suitable base for a dye job since it's closer than a blue.  I should be free later this week though one unknown is the availability of an A/C condenser for a 2010 Equinox (appears to be a common weakness) - send a PM.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 06, 2015, 03:44:50 PM
Yes,  my dash and IC are darker. Here's a picture of the one I just took out.  The one I put in is the exact same colour only it has the wood grain around the radio knobs. If it's brown, it should match better than the maroon.

(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj580/j2rossit/Chester/DSC04124.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/j2rossit/media/Chester/DSC04124.jpg.html)


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on July 07, 2015, 12:20:55 PM
The photo I took was in natural, evening light, without a flash.  My impression is it's still pretty close!


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 10, 2015, 05:23:28 PM
Kevin came up and we had a good lunch.
It looks the the vinyl is the right colour, so now I have to see if I can transfer this onto the chrome, wood grain, and HVAC duct housing from my good one.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 10, 2015, 06:19:46 PM

 Nice.

 They are all just heat swabbed together. Use a dremel and grind off the swabs and it will come apare easily. You can use an epoxy like JB Weld to glue it back together.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Jon on July 10, 2015, 06:24:44 PM
 *yikes*  I didn't know my bezel was held together with cotton swabs!!




Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 10, 2015, 06:45:55 PM

 Hot ones too.  -yes-

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 14, 2015, 07:37:37 AM

 Yesterday I spent some time with Vera. I was a while since she was driven but she started. I went for a drive and stopped into the shop where the springs were done on Lucille.  The over axle pipe broke, so that needed to be fixed, they were able to do it, and I wanted the tires rotated. So I went home and picked her up and dropped her off.

 Then Vera wouldn't start when I went to move it hat home, dead battery. I left her on charge for a bit.

 I put in that alternator that Jon left me and I was able to repair. I wasn't sure that it would work, so I had to install it to find out. It works just fine! 14.4V. I never did trust that alternator that was in there for some time now, but I could never quite out my finger on it.

 I messed with the timing a bit, but ended up putting it back where it was, it was pinging with even 2 degrees advance over spec. Then I pulled the throttle body and inspected it, all looks good as far as cleanliness, but the stalling problem remains. I think I'm going to grab one from the wreckers to use for parts.

 The driver's seat belt latch quit working, so I found another here in stock, and replaced that, then gave her a good vacuuming.

 A good day's work and got some stuff done on two cars.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: KevinW on July 14, 2015, 08:10:16 AM
The driver's seat belt latch quit working, so I found another here in stock, and replaced that, then gave her a good vacuuming.

Did the spring break?  I discovered they can swapped relatively easily so matching belt colour isn't a problem; the trick is to scavenge one from a less used seating position.  They seem to give trouble after 25-30 years of regular use.  I wonder how many cycles were used for validation.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 14, 2015, 08:53:07 AM

 Yep, a chunk fell out of it. I had one for this position in the right colour. There is a molded plastic cover over the belt that makes it impossible to use in other positions.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on July 14, 2015, 10:12:46 AM
" I messed with the timing a bit, but ended up putting it back where it was, it was pinging with even 2 degrees advance over spec. Then I pulled the throttle body and inspected it, all looks good as far as cleanliness, but the stalling problem remains. I think I'm going to grab one from the wreckers to use for parts. "

No MIL codes ?

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 14, 2015, 10:41:21 AM

 Nope. None.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on July 14, 2015, 10:49:43 AM
Back in 08 I replaced my IAC and the new one wouldn't adjust so I installed the old one. That lasted for another 5 years then it quit.

Took that apart, all worn out, a small electric motor in there.

Exchanged the fubar new one for another, been fine ever since, don't recall if I got a code for the IAC but the old failed - father time.

Just a thought, you can get an old TBI unit for parts, granted.

I think one of your electric components is acting up. Years ago Spencer had a SBC w / TBI that was stalling, he had a code for the TPS, replaced that and problem solved.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 14, 2015, 11:00:05 AM

 Yeah, what I'm thinking.....

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on July 14, 2015, 05:59:17 PM
After what you taught me I know the TBI system pretty well.

Feel like if there's a system malfunction I can diagnose it properly and correct the problem myself.

Mine is running flawlessly now, all been rebuilt.  Just drive it like I used to now.

When you don't know how to deal with a TBI system don't waste your time trying to fix it, only get frustrated ( like I did ) but I got it all copacetic now.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 14, 2015, 10:30:38 PM

 I drove it to work today. Since I messed with it yesterday, the idle is lower and there is no fast idle on start-up. I'm going to dig in with a bit of diagnosis, but that may just verify my suspicions.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on July 15, 2015, 08:18:15 AM
How my bad new IAC worked, the same symptoms.

CDV


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on July 15, 2015, 12:39:14 PM
Other than just drive it into an all out rain storm today,   cursin> I ordered up all of the extra stuff that I'll need when I tear the front off of the 500.  Along with the timing chain set install, I'll replace the water pump, upper and lower hoses, t-stat, housing gasket and radiator cap. Everything is AC/Delco, except the cap. That is Stant. They couldn't assure me that it would be a metal or plastic cap. WTF? Save the plastic stuff for the new cars.

I'll flush out the entire system, replace the coolant and use distilled water. The radiator was replaced just before I got the car, so it's spotless inside. And I did the heater hoses when I first got it because they were still OEM and looked like they would burst at any time.

So for $110, plus $139 for the high end Cloyes set, I'll have everything I need to do it right and I won't have to worry about it anymore.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 15, 2015, 05:07:25 PM
The best way. If you can do it, replace everything in question while you are in there. That should be a good day's work for you.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on July 15, 2015, 05:20:07 PM
I'll start on it in the morning and when the sun works it's way to the West, I'll see where I am. Because I'm also pulling the radiator to prevent any damage and painting everything, I may finish it the next morning. I'm doing a Cadillac cruise with the Georgia CLC Chapter at near the end of August. It'll be a 1400+ mile round trip for me. I want to do it with total peace of mind.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: guidematic on July 15, 2015, 10:26:37 PM

 You'll probably notice a bit more responsiveness with a tighter chain too. One that is also pretensioned (they do that now, right?) so it won't stretch in the firat 500 miles.

 Mike


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: Fins on July 16, 2015, 04:49:11 AM
I got it from MTS. Cadillac is all they do, so I doubt I got inferior quality parts from them.  -uh- The new Cloyes roller chain is a heck of a lot more stout looking than the OEM stuff and all steel too. Not aluminum, plastic and steel.

I'll try to get pictures if I remember. But that's just something that I never did, was take pictures of the work while working. Unless it's some complex thing I never got into, like a transmission, to me it's just stuff that I've done many times before. Granted, it's been a while, but you don't forget how/what to do. Seeing as this engine has never been opened up, I don't have to worry about the threads for those 2 small 1/4"-20 water pump bolts in the cover being stripped out.


Title: Re: What did you do to your Cadillac today
Post by: CDV on July 16, 2015, 04:53:00 PM
I got it from MTS. Cadillac is all they do, so I doubt I got inferior quality parts from them.  -uh- The new Cloyes roller chain is a heck of a lot more stout looking than the OEM stuff and all steel too. Not aluminum, plastic and steel.

I'll try to get pictures if I remember. But that's just something that I never did, was take pictures of the work while working. Unless it's some complex thing I never got into, like a transmission, to me it's just stuff that I've done many times before. Granted, it's been a while, but you don't forget how/what to do. Seeing as this engine has never been opened up, I don't have to worry about the threads for those 2 small 1/4&quo